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mason-free party Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject: Number plate of Haymarket Mercedes - why secret? |
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Notice that it was blacked out in all the press articles i've seen while the Glasgow jeep was partially visible.
The Mirror said that the London mercedes was stolen from Scotland...would be interesting to see if anyone comes forward and reports it stolen...if not i think we should look to it being owned by the guys in the city..just a thought
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elohim Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Still had no luck obtaining the Merc VRN, however I know live TV coverage at the time showed it.
The Glasgow Jeep plate is L8 08 RDT, as reported on the bbc website.
Some additional pictures of the Glasgow Jeep & forensics can be seen on the link below......
http://editorial.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=74965359
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conspiracy analyst Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: Most probable |
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explanation was late for their plance, drove too fast took a wrong turn and crashed.
Why didn't it blow up after burning for so long?
There is evidence that this was no car bomb. If there was it would have blown up. It didn't hence it cannot be a car bomb.
Driving a car into a wall or through doors doesn't make it a bomb. If it was every crash that occurs could be classified as a suicide mission.
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Disco_Destroyer Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:06 am Post subject: |
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As my previous post Internal Combustion Engine just like a Gas Canister is a 'Viable Explosive' as both contain Fuel in compressed or confined state. Its all in the wording! All compressed or confined fuel is a 'Viable Explosive' it just needs a trigger, a bog standard fire/rapid exposure to heat will do. What worries me the most is people believe this nonsense!!
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:12 am Post subject: |
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Its all *,
As a welder for 5 years I know a fair bit about dangerous conpressed gas!
Gas bottles are designed with a weak neck, the purpose of this is so that if the bottle is damaged or heated too much it does NOT explode but the neck pops off and you get a jet of release.
Yes it will burn very voilently, yes the bottle may well be propelled around by the broken neck but it will almost certainly NOT explode like a high explosive.
What nonsense.
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karlos Validated Poster
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:58 am Post subject: |
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I agree completely.
A few jerry cans which by the way usually only hold 1 gallon each will easily catch fire, but dont forget the fumes are enough to make a person either experience a high or even collapse.
Why on earth would the driver keep them on the back seat and not put the in the boot?
Gas cannisters again are not the ideal as they would take quite a bit of heat before they popped and willnot all pop at the same time, as the fire in glasgow shows it was just like a normal car fire which as any fireman can testify happens very frequently.
I really cannot think anything than if these were 'real' terrorists they could not have been worse prepared.
Why are there still no cctv pictures?
Why are the news media asking people to hand over their mobile phone recordings?
It would be interesting to do a dvla search on the number plates to find out if they were properly registered. This really smacks of false flag create maximum fear and hatred yet do no damage.
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:06 am Post subject: Keith Olbermann on London Bombs |
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Countering the frothing rabid hysteria that is being whipped up by a fervent media in response to three failed car "bomb" attacks in the last few days in the UK, ex-CIA agent Larry Johnson joined Keith Olbermann to underscore the truth behind the madness - that the so-called bombs were primitive at best and would not have killed anybody.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK5-jIfOBjQ&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fprisonpla net%2Ecom%2Findex%2Ehtml
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rodin Validated Poster
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Oldish plate. What year/model was the Merc?
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:50 am Post subject: |
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G Reg is Aug '89 - Jul '90
Reported to have been a Mercedes 300E
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kc Moderate Poster
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Why didn't it blow up after burning for so long? |
Deisel engine. When I worked in Montana, we used to keep a blow torch in the trunk to warm the diesel tank in winter.
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Interersting but true. Diesel is very hard to ignite. So again this car was chosen not for damage rather the worst possible car to use as a car bomb.
G reg merc would cost about £500 or even less. Coupled with a L reg Jeep you could be talking about a very low budget false flag oporation.
Gordon's dad would be proud of the frugelness,
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: Mercedes London car bomb...anyone get number plate? |
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mason-free party wrote: | Notice that it was blacked out in all the press articles i've seen while the Glasgow jeep was partially visible.
The Mirror said that the London mercedes was stolen from Scotland...would be interesting to see if anyone comes forward and reports it stolen...if not i think we should look to it being owned by the guys in the city..just a thought |
so the merc was allegedly stolen in scotland? then how the fu*k has that been driven down and crashed into a bin/or parked up nicely depending on the version of events being spun, through all the tens of thousands of Vehicle number plate registration camera checkpoints, into the most densly populated CCTV and VRC area on earth?
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neo59 New Poster
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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According to this site the Merc is from Dudley & the Jeep from Sheffield:
http://www.selectnumberplates.co.uk/info/two-letter-area-codes-old.htm l
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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neo59 wrote: | According to this site the Merc is from Dudley & the Jeep from Sheffield:
http://www.selectnumberplates.co.uk/info/two-letter-area-codes-old.htm l |
Does this hyped vehicle number registration high tech system work or not?
How many programmes have we been subjected to over the years, explaining in painfully exagerated tones, that all cars stolen, not taxed, not MOTed will be instantly bleeped to the underground multi million pound high tech control centre, where the vehicle will be intercepted and apprehended immediately.
Are we now to believe all that is a waste of time and money, and will not stop anyone who has the brainwave to clone the vehicle number plate of a legally owned car of the same make and colour?
Imagine a 'terrorist', he steals a car, rather than buy one for £200, he steals a white van, and he knows someone in the pub who owns a legal fully paid up white van. Just clone the number plate, and all this Vehicle recognition nonsense is rendered useless for the purpose of tracking terrorists, but useful for stalking lawfull citizens.
It seems that all the inconsistencies of the first merc story will not be mentioned on the news anymore, we have the hyperboiling frenzy of the car fire at glasgow, almost as if its, forget about the merc bin crash etc and changing of the storyline, just look at them 2 suicide car bombers in the same car, and look at those flames.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Straight from the Northern Ireland troubles this 'Glutton' (army code name) technology was developed to track IRA bombers and is now being used to track all British citizens. Who, of course, are now all considered to be about to kill, maim and murder. Terrorists, arrestable for weeks on end with no evidence and as such guilty until proven inniocent'.
UK to expand network of surveillance cameras
Posted: 2008/09/15
From: MNN
Britain is to expand its national network of roadside cameras so police can read 50 million licence plates a day, and reconstruct the journeys of motorists, it was reported Monday.
http://mathaba.net/news/?x=606138
Police are believed to be already able to record the whereabouts of 10 million drivers a day, during investigations ranging from counter-terrorism to low-level crime in Britain, which is already considered to be the most spied-on society in the world.
But according to the Guardian newspaper, the police are being encouraged to "fully and strategically exploit" the surveillance database and store details of millions of daily journeys for up to five years.
Thousands of CCTV cameras across the country were said to have been converted to read automatic number plate recognition (ANPR) that pinpoint the precise time and location of all vehicles on the road.
Police helicopters have also been equipped with infrared cameras that can read licence plates from 610 metres, while mobile cameras have been installed in patrol cars and unmarked vehicles parked by the side of roads.
A report last year by Liberty civil rights group found that Britain was already the world leader in CCTV use with approximately 4.2 million cameras as well as having the biggest national DNA database with 3.9 m samples.
The Guardian said that a strategy document, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, envisaged that the database will be used at all levels of policing.
A nationwide network of cameras was expected to become fully operational in four months' time, when the National ANPR Data Centre in Hendon, north London, will record up to 50m licence plates a day.
But the massively expansion plans have raised concerns from civil rights campaigners, who question whether the details should be kept for so long, and want clearer guidance on who might have access to the material.
Human rights group Privacy International described the five-year record of people's car journeys "unnecessary and disproportionate" and said it had lodged an official complaint with the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO), the government's data watchdog.
The database would give police "extraordinary powers of surveillance," Privacy director Simon Davies said. "This would never be allowed in any other democratic country," he said. --IRNA
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