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mason-free party
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911Eyewitness
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Yes.
Besides extensive use of sock puppets Phil has only a few visitors. His primary "readers and posters" are DB Smith, Hoffman and someone in Holland I have not identified yet. He has identified several of his sock puppets to me in phone conversations and has fabricated frauds to try and push his agenda.
http://www.911researchers.com/node/626
He exposes himself in a pdf available there quite nicely. He has pulled the fraud from his site but my pdf lives. |
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mason-free party
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well i've just watched the latest Von Kliest follow up to In Plane site called the 911 Ripple Effect which is advertised on letsroll911.org...seems these guys are still banging on about the 'pod' theory and showing multiple dodgy images of the planes...
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| I've had to deal with Phil Jayhan and his dubious theories multiple times. His irrational clinging to the pod does nothing but hurt serious 9/11 researchers. |
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KP50
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| coconut wrote: | | I've had to deal with Phil Jayhan and his dubious theories multiple times. His irrational clinging to the pod does nothing but hurt serious 9/11 researchers. |
So you are quite happy that "Flight 175" as depicted in various films looks exactly as a commercial airliner should? |
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coconut
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| Yes. The pod is an illusion. I posted about it somewhere else on this forum today. |
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KP50
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| coconut wrote: | | Yes. The pod is an illusion. I posted about it somewhere else on this forum today. |
Well that sorts that out then - damn my eyes and their deceptive nature, I won't forgive them this calumny. |
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coconut
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Your eyes can deceive you. I used to believe in the pod theory as well, until I accepted the possibility that I was wrong and decided to look at other sources who gave more rational explanations.
http://www.questionsquestions.net/WTC/pod.html |
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ian neal
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:25 am Post subject: Re: Is letsroll911.org a disinfo site...? |
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| mason-free party wrote: | www.letsroll911.org
Phil Jayhan was the first person to come up with the 'pod' theory and now attacks anyone who mentions the possibility of no planes.He also is obsessed with Armegedon and 666 bull-* and promotes zionist propaganda like www.solomonstemple.com |
Not true
The original claims were based on analysis by a Spanish University. I know the people who translated that study into english and from there it was picked up on in the US and incorporated into In plane site.
This is important since all the infighting within the movement (atleast publicly) kicked off with the accusations against In plane site by Mark R/ oilempire site, which claimed that photos had been manipulated.
Now personally I do not accept the pod theories but I can understand how they arose and at their source were not deliberate disinfo.
I pointed this out on this thread 20 months ago |
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mason-free party
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| TonyGosling wrote: | | IMHO there is a pod of sorts on the military 767 that hit the second tower. Certainly seems clear from the CNN footage that I have as an original recording from 9/11 TV coverage. But to bang on about it is rather pointless. Don't have a go at Phil, he's a geezer and I suspect the motives of anyone that has a pop at the guy. |
Surely an original recording from CNN doesn't make it genuine?...these films could have easily been made beforehand and used as live shots.
Why should someone who believes in the spurious pod theory ban anyone who believes in the no planes theory that can be backed up with multiple evidence of tv footage via September Clues.There is no need to ban anyone.... unless there ia an ulterior motive.
I think the reason why people are afraid to take on board the no plane theory is because it will reveal mass involvement of the 911 conspiracy..not just a few in the Whitehouse but many more masonic
corporate types that infest our TV networks and media.
September Clues - Devastating
New 911 Documentary
6-10-7
Part One
http://www.livevideo.com/video/6F393F4DE41C4CF798CBB438E6378129/septem ber-clues-part1.aspx
Part Two
http://www.livevideo.com/video/2CE2112F00F24F4182C73582D0F89949/septem ber-clues-part2.aspx
Part Three
http://www.livevideo.com/video/E0E8DC73928D42D4A01CF664B22E16B5/septem ber-clues-part3.aspx
Part Four
http://www.livevideo.com/video/3F706266A8524D6AA3CCC4CFC2F0F257/septem ber-clues-part4.aspx
If you watch the live footage from all the networks and amateur footage then you get many conflicting images of black planes in clear sunlight,grey planes,white planes..nose cone going right through the building which is faded to black on 2 different networks .Planes hitting the buildings from diffrent angles...and in one shot there are no planes visible at all.
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