What can I say?

Hazzard · Moderate Poster Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 368

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5587990522549547050&pr=goog-s l

Im not going to say anything.

catfish · Validated Poster Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 430

Everyone's got to watch this.

gypsum · Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:33 pm Post subject:

I honestly thought that nothing america could do would surprise me anymore, but that is truly shocking. Well done to that man for speaking out about it.

Newspeak International · Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 10:48 pm Post subject:

Can this be burnt onto CD?

Hazzard · Moderate Poster Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 368

Remember folks, before you react, that this is exactly what war is. It has NEVER changed. Dont let anyone tell you it has. History repeats itself over and over and over again and this is exactly why people have not learned. Becuase we did not throw everything we had available against going to war.

The same thing could happen in Iran, and then the rest of Asia. What then?

This is war folks. This is what all the fuss is about.

Justin · Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 8:04 am Post subject:

I have just sent this to my LibDem MP, Tim Farron.

Hazzard · Moderate Poster Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 368

You nearly had it right up until

catfish · Validated Poster Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 430

Absolutely right hazard. Those bungling Americans. The British have been much more quietly led to shackles. Criminal Justice Bill is 14 years old and basically prescribes martial law, in conjunction with the 2006 Terror Act, we're just waiting for them to turn it on.

Everyone tell ten different people the truth about 9/11 today, don't worry about their reaction, just tell 'em, and tell ten tomorrow and the day after that, you get the picture.

Newspeak International · Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject:

you're right Hazard, the whole world needs to see this.

I only have a cd writer so can this be burnt to CD?

freddie · Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 10:40 pm Post subject:

I'm with you all the way apart from this

Hazzard · Moderate Poster Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 368

The mechanics of war have not changed but you are certainly right about the civilian to combatant ratio being different. Its insane that people can't see what the deal is.

I mean they should have learned their lessons in Vietnam, but the problem is everytime there is a problem, the public is made to concider it a taboo, a dreadful thing to talk about, thus you never learn. Just look at what happens when the word 'Nazi' is used. People go through some kind of mental acrobats just to avoid the truth of the matter, that what happened to the German people could have very well happened to them too, and not only that it opens up the possibility that its happening them now.

paul wright · Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 11:06 pm Post subject:

The stammer is the key
This is the gate holding back the whole issue of the person

freddie · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 6:07 pm Post subject:

well well well,,,

It turns out the whole thing was sham, I have only skimmed a few articles but I am yet to see a 'who' or 'why' behind this one. Is the organization he was representing (Iraqi Veterans Against the War - If I remember right) behind it or what?

http://washingtontimes.com/commentary/mmalkin.htm

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/300506fakevideo.htm

This whole thing is very suspect and Watson's analysis seems to make sense, who benefits form this? ... and just because this guy made it up, that doesn't detract from all the real vets and their shocking stories.

I mean, a friend of mine (British soldier) was over there for just a couple of months and he said he saw enough to never want to go back -- He said they'd shoot at dogs, goats, family animals and pets 'for a laugh' / as 'target practice' -- He also said he was in over 10 fire fights and he said after firing off hundreds of rounds he never even saw a target! - I'll repeat that, he and his squad would come under fire and they would just spray bullets at anything, they did not identify targets at all before firing -- so from what he told me alone, I know lots of civilians would have been killed or injured.

gypsum · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject:

This was on the news today, I was quite surprised to see it on the BBC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5030960.stm

TimmyG · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject:

i'm still trying to get my head round this.

so alex jones is saying that this vid is a fake.. produced as a distraction?

i'm confused? am i being stupid? the guys a bit dim, but thats no reason to think that its fake.i'm sure they could have found some real people who were involved in this *

Wokeman · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 9:26 pm Post subject: Court-martial

No. It's not a fake. The BBC1 news tonight has just announced that the US army is to court-martial Marines for the murder of 24 Iraqi people, including men, women and children, one as young as 2 years of age.

flamesong · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 9:32 pm Post subject:

alwun · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 9:34 pm Post subject: the 'fake' confession

It's been said elsewhere that this is designed to be exposed as a distraction to the forthcoming verdict on the marines' massacre at Haditha.

Newspeak International · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:21 pm Post subject:

There is no evidence of the person called Macbeth having served in the Rangers apparently.

flamesong · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:26 pm Post subject:

Yes, that's what the wikipedia page says - but it doesn't stop there:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Macbeth

Squall7 · New Poster Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 5

Newspeak International · Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject:

Thanks for that Squall7, I shall try that on a less dubious vid.

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