Chemtrails - banned from GrumpyOldSod

[Louise]

I just thought i'd inform this forum that i've been banned from the the following website: www.grumpyoldsod.com

I was trying to tell them about chemtrails and how they may be dangerous to peoples health.

But they have labeled me a nutcase for putting forward all these ideas and have banned me.

They can seem to get their heads around the possibility that goverments could be so evil to their own people.

I have never been banned from any site before and i feel very upset, but i was only trying to warn them.

That is what you get for having peoples best intrests at heart it seems.

At no time was i ever rude or nasty to anyone, and i didn't try to put anybody down either.

I tryied to put my case with sensible arguments but all most of them could do was respond with slander.

No wonder why David Icke calls them sheeple.

But they also belive the offical story of 9/11 as well.

I really have never come across such closed minded, narrow minded people in all my life.

I was only trying to help them.

Apparently an MP who has outed the fact about chemtrails is Norman Baker.

He is a Liberal Democrat In the constituancy of lewes.

I'm going to email him for more information.

But also a long time ago i seem to remember a person from my past who said that they have already invented cures for some of the illnesses that they say today are not able to be cured.

The reason for witholding them is one the cost of producing the cure on a mass scale.

And two, if they started to cure people of fatal illnesses there would very quickly become a huge world population crisis.

So a balance must be kept between the birth rate and the death rate of the people of this world, otherwise it could lead to serious problems.

Chemical spraying to enduce slow death could be a covert way of keeping that balance equal, or if they wanted to increase the death rate to compensate for the birth rate.

But i do feel very sad about being banned as i was only trying to spread news of a possible danger to the people.

[spiv]

Don't worry Louise, it does happen, I'm afraid that you must just take this sort of thing 'on the chin'.

Recently some of us were discussing on a science forum the impossibility of the physics regarding the three world trade centres collapsing into their own footprints at near freefall speeds and accelerations (as per the official explanation) without some other energy source available to pulverise the concrete and render the steel supports useless. They just could not see this, refusing even to look at any peer reviewed papers written by qualified scientists who have researched this, and by the end of it they were arguing that 'black was white'. Yup, it is quite scary to realise just how brainwashed the masses of people are, and they think we're 'conspiracy nutcases' (and worse!!!). You've simply seen this brainwashing firsthand now, that is all.

Others on this forum were arguing on a structural engineers' blog, and getting much the same response.

But that is not to say that you and others should not be discussing these matters on relevant forums, even though you know there will be rejection. On the contrary, although I may argue the case with those who similarly argue back, in reality I think of the people, and they are the most, who read the postings but do not comment. It is some of those who may be exposed to the questions for the first time and may start to look at them for themselves, not the dogmatic 'black is white' posters.

To me it shows just how easy it is for the ruling powers to manipulate public opinion. The latest breathtaking arrogance for me is to appoint Blair as Middle East Peace envoy. A man who, in my opinion, has illegally invaded two Middle Eastern countries and killed thousands of innocent citizens in those countries, not to mention the lives lost of our own young men and women in our armed forces, forces which should be deployed for defensive purposes only. Blair should be arrested and taken to the Hague to answer charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity!!!

[Louise]

Thanks for your reply spiv.

These people on that other site seem only to trust the mainstream media (OOOPS!!!!!!).

I don't think hey know how the mainstream media is controlled and how the news that is released is controlled.

Also they don't seem to be able to learn from history, the past lies, cover-ups and false flags that the goverment has commited that is now part of public record.

it's like knowing something terrible is going to happen, like a plane is going to crash or something.

And your trying to warn people to save their lives, but they dismiss you as being a nutcase and don't belive you.

So people die just because they thought you were a nutcase.

In fact i have heard of that happening, some person has had a dream of a terrible event and they've tried to warn people.

People have ignored them and that event has happend and people have died.

Also it seems that only people with prominance and significance get belived, a person who has virtually nothing (like me) is brushed off as a nutcase.

For example if i said something people won't belive me, if then Gordon Brown said the same thing people would just except it without question.

But we'd be both just as right (or wrong) as each other.

[Long Tooth]

[Mark Gobell]

Nice post LT.

[Louise]

Very nice poem Mark Gobell.

These wars in iraq and Afghanistan are they all part of the plans to Build an american empire?.

If so i guess it will expand to other middle eastern countrys.

Also the middle east is very rich in natrual resorces not just oil i suspect, so if bush can get control of all of those he will be even more powerfull.

But what of countrys like Pakistan and India?.

They have nuclear power so woudn't they be a threat to the american empire?.

I got a feeling that something else might happen in america before the elections come around again whitch i think is next year sometime, something will happen to keep George Bush in charge perhaps.

Or they could simply rig the vote maybe so he stays in charge.

If he has started on a big plan for the world, surely he's got to stay there and see the plan through, i don't think he'd like to hand the reigns of that plan to anybody else.

And all this really started when 9/11 happend, it paved the way for what was to come.

On the guestbook where i got banned i think that they are getting frustrated as to why the troops are over there still and why britain and america are not pulling their troops out.

But to keep troops over there is to keep defence spending hiigh and that's what america wants.

I did try to urge them to read "rebuilding america's defences" by PNAC.

But i was probably ignored, after all i'm just a nutcase arn't i.

Also i think that america has built permenant bases over there as well.

[marky 54]

the website you got banned from certainly fits.

not only are the called grumpyoldsods but they have the words, don't walk, don't smoke, don't drink, don't think on the front page, they must be using it as a code.

[Mark Gobell]

The lines were not written by me Louise, they're from a song called Not One of Us by Peter Gabriel.

Glad you liked them though.

As for the long term plans for the Middle East, good question.

Indisputably about resources, US & British hegemony, the Balkanization of Iraq, probable confrontation with Iran & Syria, longer term geo-strategy vis Russia & China etc

As for Pakistan, the writing is on the wall for General Musharraf's Military Junta.

If Pakistan and India are not forced into some conflict before too many more years I'd be surprised.

I wouldn't be surprised if Pakistan will eventually become just another front in the never ending war of terror, once they've outlived their usefulness as an eastern buffer to Iran that is and once the well runs dry of ISI trained useful Jihadists

As for Bush, he, like all US Presidents is limited to two terms, unless of course they rip up that part of their constitution before 4.11.8

There is growing speculation that the neo-fascists currently occupying the White House are not going to relinquish control very easily.

They've already stolen two elections so three in a row is a safe bet.

[Louise]

This is a message for: marky 54

Whatever you do DON'T go on that website i got banned from and tell them about your UFO experience.

The responce you'll get dosen't bear thinking about.

[karlos]

personally i have been banned from many noticeboards
there are plenty more you can write on.
Unfortunately many places just dont want to hear the truth or are too scared too.
Im surprised this board hasnt banned me too the amount i disagree with people

[Louise]

I think that if this movements intentions is to dig into everything and find the truth.

I think we are going to have to take mickey taking and intimidation as the people who are behind these dirty evil secrets get more and more desprate to defend them and keep them concealed.

But always it is important to remember what side we are on and what we are fighting for.

It is also important to remember that they will use every dirty, evil, cunning, manipulative, invasive, devious, deceptive, tricking tactic against us to try to make us fail.

But

HERES TO THE TRUTH!.

[TonyGosling]

Karlos,

It would be good to have a list of half decent places to post - like where haven't you been banned from?