Are UFOs really from outer space?

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on the front of the Washington Post hey?

I dont trust ANY of the media as far as I can throw them!

I notice they also include 'abduction'

Thing is we have been left high and dry by the Greer DP stuff. There is NO dialogue whatsoever, and lots of BS, and confusions...and MONEY MAKING

hanging over all our heads is the actial corruption of 9/11, which involves mass media, and now we got mass media 'taking the ET subject seriously', when also is 'threat' of the elite staging some kind of 'alien threat' in the future

what a pile of confusion it all is!

[marky 54]

thanks for explaining ferther and the article utopiated.

[marky 54]

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[marky 54]

ah i see your point.

when you think about the answer is we are not going to know if its real or false flag. all i know is if they turn up and attack then its most proberbly the false flag.

if they turn up and just introduce themselves then it is real alien contact.

the reason i say that is because if you look throughout history there have been sighting dating back as far as caveman drawings. so if the aliens wanted to attack us they would of done it when we were much weaker and only had spears and catapults to defend ourselves. so if the alien thing is real they don't want to attack us, history and events has proven how ever who does want to attack us, and they will be the ones to do it and that will be the false flag of pretend aliens.

so we will not know unless it happens and untill they started to attack or not.

so if they attack -falseflag.
if they don't (they have not attacked for centurys and centurys)- its real.

i don't know 100% for sure but that is what i'll use as my guide to know which.

[Louise]

I feel that aliens (or ET's) have to be friendly.

They posses such a high level of technology that if they wanted to atack the earth they could do it with a level of resistance that they woudn't even break sweat over.

Maybe that's another reason why the goverment won't tell us about them.

It would panic the people a lot if they admitted that humanity would be helpless if the ET's turned nasty.

My advice is: Don't make them angry (if they can get angry that is).

[Samantha J Fox]

God help us if they find out how many of us watch Hollyoaks..

[marky 54]

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[marky 54]

While nearly three-quarters of the 1,024 adults questioned for the poll said they had never seen or known anyone who saw a UFO, 54 percent believe intelligent life exists outside Earth.

also.....

Most people -- 91 percent -- told the pollsters that they had never had contact with aliens or known anyone who had. A similar number -- 93 percent -- said they had never been abducted or known anyone whisked away by beings from another planet.

http://www.cnn.com/US/9706/15/ufo.poll/

ok so whats 9% of one million so that is [90,000] people per million that have had contact or know someone who has, so [91%] saying no they have not had contact sounds like it is hardly exsistant, but if the trend continued throughout the U.S. of [9%] saying they had contact or knew somebody who had........a population of [302,390,269] million (link below) so [302] million, [90,000] x [302] = [27 million 180 thousand]. that is a lot of people in america without counting world population if the trend continued there.

http://www.census.gov/population/www/popclockus.html

ok its hard to tell from that poll because only 1,024 people were asked, but i simply cannot find any links to more vast polls or figures on reports of alien contact, maybe im just not searching the correct term or the figures are in documents and information that is'nt coming up in my search, so any help is appreciated to links for more vast polls or total credible reports in a year etc. but my point is if only a small percentage say they have had contact or had an experiance of an abduction etc then that is still alot of people.

see this article too.....


As a researcher and hypnotherapist I have worked with people who claimed to have been abducted by extraterrestrials. I have interviewed UFO researchers, scientists, authors, and people who claim to have secret information.

Physical evidence seems to support many case histories, though some experiences may actually be caused by dreams, mental problems, media indoctrination, or misinterpretation of what the person has seen. All leave an imprint on the psyche of the person, or persons (multiple abductions involved).

Most countries have reports of alien abductions. They occur in large cities as well as the rural areas.

Abductions occur at any time of the day or night.

Many abductions are not reported, because there is no one to tell, or the abductee fears ridicule from others, especially if they feel they have been sexually violated.

People who have been abducted many times keep journals to determine patterns or timetables. They sometimes write books about their experiences.

Abductees have tried many interesting techniques to protect themselves, but to date, I know of no one specific approach that prevents these experiences.

Abductees have reported attempts to video or photograph the events. Some abductees have experimented with infrared film. Most footage is useless.

My opinion of this experience: We are all part of a biogenetic experiment - the abduction phenomena a metaphor for the greater experience. The Grays are part of the programmed illusion as all is a virtual experience in time and emotion.

Often abductees are told that the experience is for some 'greater good'. Always remember that anyone who does anything to you without your permission - or makes your soul feel uncomfortable - does not have your best interests at heart. Be careful what you believe.

more.....

http://www.crystalinks.com/abduction.html

so in my opinon a hell of a lot more go unreported than those that are reported due to fear of ridicule.

so can someone please explain why this subject is cuckoo, wacko, or insane? especially when millions report this stuff not just a few hundred.

those who ridicule are sheep who do the cover-up job for them, and you have been taught well, well done.

[Cruise4]

[marky 54]

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[marky 54]

anything is possible, the only way i'd know is if they turned up and attacked straight away, there would be no way to know for sure with scenerios you you give.

but do we know for sure this is what will happen? im intrested to know the sources for this, because it does seem more like a rumour or people just saying than anything provable.

i aint saying it aint true or its nothing im just wondering where the staged attack scenerio came from.

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[marky 54]

[TonyGosling]

Has anyone here got more pictures and/or operational UK airbases for the legendary USAF or is it NASA SR-01 Aurora
Could it be an alien/humanoid technohybid?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_aircraft

[marky 54]

yes secret or advanced human craft exsist, what does that prove?
and how does it disprove anything?

it certainly looks nothing like what i saw.

its like people in africa thinking white tiger's don't exsist because they know orange looking tigers exsist. infact untill people started to travel the globe i bet most in africa thought that.

i don't think anyone has denied advanced human craft, but that is not the issue here. proving advanced human craft exsist does not prove aliens do not. it would be like proving aliens exsist must mean advanced human craft does not exsist.

both are possible if you remove you barrier in your head where everything is either black or white but could'nt possibly be both.

[Louise]

I doubt very much that advanced or secret human built aircraft (which may have been built using intelligence gained from ET spacecraft anyway), could display the behaviour of spacecraft from another world.

Darting back and forth at a tremendous speed then suddenly coming to a halt, then shooting straight up etc.

I think that you would probably be able to tell from a objects manouvering capabilities if it was man made or it came from another world.

[TonyGosling]

That all depends on the systems of propulsion which have been developed behind our backs. What makes you think the aliens haven't exchanged technology with the military? NATO particularly are dodgy enough to do deals like that.
Have you seen a film called 'They Live!'? It illustrats the point I'm making perfectly in an entirely believable fashion. It seems impossible that someone hasn't done deals like this for what would be decisive military technology.

[Louise]

Hi Tony

Yes i have heard of storys about the american goverment possibly doing deals with ET's to gain intelligence of all aspects of their technology:

Propultion systems
Power systems
Weapon systems
Navigation systems
Communication systems etc.

This allegedly happens at Area 51 amonst other places, of course Area 51 or Groomlake or Dreamland offically does not exist.

But we know better don't we .

The thing is, if this is happening, what i want to know is what do the ET's get out of it?.

I'm sure they don't give the intelligence of their technology away freely so what's their end?.

And i'm certain that the US millitary won't use that intelligence for honourable or good purposes either.

It is far more likely they will use it to fashion their own advanced aircraft to gain millitary dominance over the world.

And by the way no i haven't seen the film "They Live" i'll have to keep an eye out for it.

[Louise]

Another pattern that i've noticed is that ET's seem to favour telepathic communication rather than verbal communication.

Telepathic communication can be considerd more advanced than verbal communication as with verbal communication short of having another communication device, the person has to be quite close to you in order to be able to communicate with them.

However i guess you can communicate with someone telepathicly over any distance you want.

I think that we are all capable of telepathy, but because we'd rather use the verbal methord of communicating we just haven't developed our telepathic abilities.

Well ET's seem to be the other way around and that's why some of them can't seem to talk (verbally that is).

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[utopiated]

The biggest case in the UK's UFO history [since Rendlesham at least] is gradually unfolding at exopolitics uk for those interested.

There are now 2 videos of the craft I added pictures of earlier in this thread and 2 more videos to come.

Link direct to current page: http://tinyurl.com/2rljxl

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[Cruise4]

I sound crazy to myself... but the more I look into the NWO and the reasons and methodology behind it... the more Alien involvement becomes not just possible... but likely!

I am starting to think we have a much bigger problem on our hands than previously hinted at.

If anyone is out there who can surreptiously release information, they should do so, because now is the time for anything like this to unravel.

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[Louise]

I just found a very intresting story in the daily mail today about UFO's:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_artic le_id=473311&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true#StartComments

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