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wepmob2000 Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 431 Location: North East England
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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ishaar wrote: | Quote: | but don't expect anything less than an ignorant response from those who want 'chemtrails' to be true. |
Oh yes! I really want chemtrails to be true! In fact if I discover they are not true I think I'll just go ahead and poison all my friends and family anyway. Sir, or madam, you are an idiot. The term mophead is not an insult, but a fitting description given the drivel you spout.
I look forward to seeing your WW2 pictures ... zzzz, yawn! |
You've proven my point precisely, ignore, insult, or cast doubts on any evidence or people that criticise your fantasy. Of course you want them to be true, otherwise you would examine the issue objectively, instead of ignoring all evidence that doesn't fit the hypothesis you're backing.....?! (Which is by the way, the complete opposite of 'truthseeking' in every way, maybe Bushwhacker has some valid points regarding some people here.)
I think some people here completely misunderstand the whole concept of evidence. Their logic is 'we see something we don't understand, we know of a technology that feasibly could explain it, therefore the two are connected and that is our conclusion'. There is absolutely nothing linking point A to point C, but by a huge leap of the imagination and no correlating evidence, chemtrailers get to point C anyway. Where the whole idea of fleets of anonymous military Boeings comes from is beyond me, where do they go? Why haven't plane spotters reported them, like they did with CIA flights? Are there secret airports in the UK to house these planes? No plane spotter would entertain any of this, they know the 'chemtrail' aircraft are scheduled airline services (and they would report any anomalies, thats been proven).
On another thread I provided evidence of real aerial spraying and the methodology, to be met with 'we're not saying this about poisoning people', this was because I has clearly pointed out that chemtrailling is a useless way of poisoning people. This despite the fact the whole overriding angle of chemtrails is that it is an attempt at mass poisoning.....?!
I await a reasoned response to this, and some reasoned answers to my questions, but I'm not holding my breath. Really I can't be bothered with this drivel anymore, theres more out than in as they say, and theres real conspiracies to be investigated like 9/11 and the Big Brother state. I wish you luck in your lost cause |
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Louise Validated Poster
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:02 am Post subject: |
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wepmob2000, if chemtrails are a fantasy then why are so many people reporting them and talking about this phenomena?.
Why is there photographs of planes actully spraying this stuff into the air?.
And why did i read the other day a report about an aircraft machanic who accidently stumbled acrosss this spraying equipment hidden inside an aircraft he was fixing, so he got curious and started poking around in other aircraft and the scumbags who are behind this spraying threatened to kill him quote:
"Curiosity killed the cat, don't poke around on internet sites that don't concern you"
He found the above written to him on a piece of paper found in his locker after first finding the spraying equipment then reserching chemtrails on the internet.
Are you saying that all these people are suffering from some sort of mass hallucination?.
wepmob2000, don't EVER for one second think that the goverment cares about you (or anybody) but their own family.
We the people are just pawns to them, expendable pawns, our lives are expendable.
After all if Britain ever came under nuclear attack where would they be?.
I'll tell you were 400-500ft underground nice and safe and secure in a bunker.
You, your family and your children and everybody else would be left to BURN.
The only consolation for us is that it will only last a fraction of a second then it will all be over.
So please don't put any evil act like this past the goverment, just look at history.
Even the people that directly work for the goverment they think their valued HA! HA! HA!.
The goverment will just use them for what they can get out of them then they will do to them like anyone would do with an empty coke tin or crisp packet.
I'm sorry to be a bit harsh in this post, but i can't understand why you seem to be dismissing this possible activity by the goverment on us.
I still say that what needs to happen is that samples of these trails need to be taken and analysed by an independant labratory, and if anyone interferes with that process it will result in instant implication.
But whoever is behind this is very dirty, hiding away, making threats from the shadows, conducting themselves under aliases etc.
Thay all are cowards, yellow belly cowards, can't confront us people head on always have to do it under cover.
And i hope they die knowing that they were always a coward and will be for eternity.
If they think that they are so invincible why don't they say something like "yeah, we're behind it, what you gonna do about it?".
So i shouldn't dismiss chemtrails completely wepmob2000 untill it is confirmed INDEPENDANTLY that they don't exist. _________________ One sure way for evil to prevail, is for the good to do nothing. |
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wepmob2000 Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Hi Louise,
I agree with you entirely on your points about the Government, there aren't many people who mistrust or dislike those cowardly criminal weasels more than me.
However, the fact remains there is absolutely no convincing evidence, or in fact any substantiated evidence at all for Chemtrails.
People are seeing contrails that behave in the expected manner in accordance to climatic influences. If contrails are more noticable thats because the number of flights has increased hugely with the rise of low cost carriers.
As a means of poisoning the populace chemtrails are useless, the pattern of 'chemtrailling' thus described directly correlates to standard UK airways and routings.
Furthermore the proponents of Chemtrails are not willing to engage in any kind of debate, always resorting to abuse and unsubstantiated one word answers. If they were confident of their case, or even had a case they would argue for it (like we see in pretty much every other case on this forum).
If they were at all confident they would have no hesitation in enlisting the help of plane spotter groups, which they don't, even though spotters have a proven history of spotting any anomalies..... |
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Louise Validated Poster
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:00 am Post subject: |
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From what i understand, or from what i've read is that contrails evaporate very rapidly where as these other trails do not.
Also contrails are only possible above altitudes of 30,000ft, these other trails seem to be formed at a much lower altitiude where it is not possible to form contrails.
I personally would encourage and want ANY INDEPENDANT group of people, spotters, whoever that is able to help to determine the exact nature of these suspect trails to help.
But what we really need is a sample to test and analyse.
If chemtrails are real, doing these actions should get whoever is behind them VERY JUMPY indeed.
They will attempt to intervene and block any investigation into them, then we have our culprits and also of course we know by the mere fact that the investigation is being interfered with, that they are real.
And if there is no intervention we will possibly find that out anyway with the independant labratory analysis.
But to get a sample would cost money and who would put that up to settle this debate one way or another?.
Personally i ALWAYS ur on the side of caution.
It is better to be safe than sorry.
The way the goverment treats it's people, and the way it will treat it's people in the future, it woudn't suprise me in the least if chemtrails were real.
After having learned the things that i've learned about the goverment i take the attitude reguarding chemtrails that they are guilty untill proven innocent.
So what i would suggest is that people start poking around into this, if it turns out to be nothing then nobody has anything to worry about because there is nothing to find.
But if there is something to find, those who are behind it are going to get worried and start taking action, we want to make them jumpy to force them out.
The second that they do, you have your answer as to wether chemtrails are real or not.
So we've got them both ways.
Do nothing and they'll be found out, do something and they'll have answerd the question for us.
You say that "As a means of poisoning the populace chemtrails are useless"
But if what is in these chemtrails is multiplying bacteria, i woudn't take much after spraying it in the air, for it to fall to earth and get into and infect the food and water chain and spread that way as well, also would it not get into the soil as well and infect that?.
So i'm not so sure about your statement that "As a means of poisoning the populace chemtrails are useless".
But as to your last paragraph, if plane spotter groups can help in this, by all means we need all the help we can get on this so lets inlist their help to crack this.
The more help the better, i'm all for that idea, great.
But we need to take them where there is the most reported chemtrail activity.
Also these planes that do the spraying, they have been cunningly made so that the chemtrail appears from the ground to be a normal contrail so they would have to be very sharp in noticing exactly where the trail was coming from.
From the engines or from somewhere else. _________________ One sure way for evil to prevail, is for the good to do nothing. |
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