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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: More eveidence of pre-collapse explosions Reply with quote

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=n72IxKe-J9g

I'm not certain if this has been discussed in another post ,but has anyone seen this clip? Its from the 'what we saw' film and clearly shows two bright flashes in the centre of the north tower just above the 2nd sky lobby (the dark bands around the towers)

I just had a guy from Canada on the phone asking me to put it up on the forum (he is not on the web).

I seem to remember Willy R talking about explosions he heard on his way up the stairs to help people.

In the film itself, the flashes appear at about 7min 52sec

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5370762387415552903&q=what- we-saw&total=394&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theres a flash in the first sky lobby at 7.44 also
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't an explosion manifest itself as a dark visible hole and debris raining down, broken glass/concrete - this doesn't appear to happen? The facade remains unchanged.

What with the focus of the world on the towers via umpteen cameras and countless on-site eyes, isn't it odd that no-one reports or captures these mini-explosions and the subsequent falling debris and holes?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are numerous instances of flashs, way in advance of the collapse, just prior to pulverisation of the out walls, and during the towers decent in the smoke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABKnj7EoK3s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVoU_JmDCfc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLBrCcIK_l8&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFv8z-TgJfk&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1bpSvEusO8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri9Uz1Wa-Xc

tele the last clip here may be of intrest to you, it shows clearly flashes followed by outward pulverisation of the outwall.

my guess is if they are explosive charges, then the flashes we see way in advance of the collapse are deeper in the building, and all that is seen is the flash through the windows of the wtc. but as it starts to collapse the flashes are on the outerwall as can be seen by watching the last clip.

some people make out its steel hitting steel and causing sparks, the only problem with that is the flashes are seen way in advance of the collapse, and on the outerwalls whilst they are still intact just prior to pulverisation.

also some say its the windows being blown out from the 'pancaking effect'
and that causes the flashes, but again this dos'nt explain the flashes way inadvance of the collapse.

theres nothing ive seen yet that is a convincing arguement that can explain all 3 differant times(way in advance, prior to pulverisation and during the decent in the smoke) the flases are seen without having to make the bizarre believable.

they look simular compared to known CD, apart from the pattern of flashes, but no demolition is the same on that anyway as it depends on the buildings structure for placement and the amount of explosives needed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79sJ1bMR6VQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRaNwPGcQcM&mode=related&search=

bear in mind that if the towers were CD then it was top down, not bottom up, which may explain why there are far more flashes in the wtc compared to a known CD, as i'd imagine far more explosives would be need to work against the grain of gravity, than to work with gravity.

it's only one of the reasons why CD is suspected and why many think that it should be reinvestigated, however there is no way of actually knowing for sure untill an investigastion is done, but most would agree there is enough evidence to suspect it as a likely scenerio given all the other evidence and witness reports including firemen who even critics admit are reliable witnesses in the case of wtc 7.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ4dVo5QgYg


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

marky 54 wrote:
there are numerous instances of flashs, way in advance of the collapse, just prior to pulverisation of the out walls, and during the towers decent in the smoke.

tele the last clip here may be .........and causing sparks, the only problem with that is the flashes are seen way in advance of the collapse, and on the outerwalls whilst they are still intact just prior to pulverisation.


Thanks for posting so many links.

I actually promised myself not to get embroiled in any 911 stuff due to its circular nature, however the pressures in buildings such as the WTC are quite different to domestic structures where the windows open.

If you can see the flash of an 'explosion' through a window at the angle we are at (original clip in the thread), then interior walls would have been blown out - it wouldn't have just been a open door allowing a bit of light through.

Explosions inside a building designed to take out supports would alter the internal pressures enormously. Such forces do not simply dissipate - even an exploding fire extinguisher is enough to take out an entire wall - have you not seen Die Hard 4?

I therefore do not accept that the flashes are internal explosions with no resulting external pressure exit damage.

The little 'poofs' as the building collapses could equally be internal pressure finding escape points of least resistance. They could equally be charges - with nothing other than opinions based on a video, it could be either.

I must now reaffirm to my vow to stop discusssing 911 and cease contribution to this thread.

Thank you.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tele i added more to my post properbly while you were replying to my inital post, take a look at the known CD clips in the post above, you hardly see what your expecting to happen and those buildings were gutted.
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