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Samantha J Fox
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Talk about clutching at straws... 
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| The vehicles aren't 'white' - the majority of the side windows are at such an angle that they reflect the sunlight making it appear the way it does on poor quality video. |
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agree to far away and very poor quality(no detail on the huge builings they are driving in front of) to tell if they are all white or explainable by other means.
agree with all of the above comments. |
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marky 54
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| so they were all balck cars? how do you know this? |
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Killtown
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| marky 54 wrote: | | so they were all balck cars? how do you know this? |
Where did I say they were *all* black cars?
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marky 54
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Killtown wrote: | | marky 54 wrote: | | so they were all balck cars? how do you know this? |
Where did I say they were *all* black cars? |
by saying all the cars are white, followed by later by asking how do black cars appear white, regardless where did i say you said it when i was asking you if that was what you were saying?
???? = asking question.
anyway how do you know there are any black cars on the road at all? |
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Killtown
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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The odds there are no dark or red cars on the freeway of that captured length would be astronomical.
However if the video is fake, that would explain why they only bothered to add white "vehicles" on the freeway because it would be easier for them to do AND white objects would show up the most against the background while being ambiguous.
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marky 54
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| Killtown wrote: | The odds there are no dark or red cars on the freeway of that captured length would be astronomical.
However if the video is fake, that would explain why they only bothered to add white "vehicles" on the freeway because it would be easier for them to do AND white objects would show up the most against the background while being ambiguous. |
well i agree the odds are high for dark cars being seen, but i simply cannot say with 100% certainty there were dark cars, or there was not dark cars and i cannot see anyway of knowing 100% unless someone was recording traffic at that specific moment(not very likely) and they shared that info.
if the video was fake i dont see why white would be any easier than adding red blue or green, please explain why white is easier? faking is not an area i know a lot about in terms of making something fake or altering video footage. |
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| So the latest conspiracy is 'Black is White' is it? |
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Killtown
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| marky 54 wrote: | well i agree the odds are high for dark cars being seen, but i simply cannot say with 100% certainty there were dark cars, or there was not dark cars and i cannot see anyway of knowing 100% unless someone was recording traffic at that specific moment(not very likely) and they shared that info.
if the video was fake i dont see why white would be any easier than adding red blue or green, please explain why white is easier? faking is not an area i know a lot about in terms of making something fake or altering video footage. |
Cause if the used all red cars, it would be even more obvious, no? And I hear white bleeds less.
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ive been looking at other examples and i find it harder to tell what colour cars etc are from a larger distance, although they don't always appear brilliant white, but if you look sometimes all the cars appear grey.
its not untill you get closer that the colour is easier to pick out.
so im not sure if there is anything suspiocious in the original video or not.
heres a link to helicopter rides, check a few of them out and you'll see what i mean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Td38MHf3Q |
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Killtown
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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That video was taken in the evening with all the vehicles having there lights on.
These helicopter videos are too far from a highway to tell, but look at the beginning of this one where is briefly shows a major street and look at the color sample of cars:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmk6EKNmX98
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| Killtown wrote: | That video was taken in the evening with all the vehicles having there lights on.
These helicopter videos are too far from a highway to tell, but look at the beginning of this one where is briefly shows a major street and look at the color sample of cars:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmk6EKNmX98 |
we can all be selective over which videos prove our point but the fact is if you look at the videos there are instances of all cars appearing the same colour and instances where you can at least pick out dark from light, so the fact is its still unclear if the original video is suspiocious or not.
also if you watch a few of them you will find white stands out more making the white cars very noticable compared to darker coloured cars, so if you then get a poor quailty clip it seems to make sense that the white cars would stand out and the rest would blend in with the darker buildings in the background(maybe even being omitted from the clip all together because of the small detail on a poor quailty clip).
the link i provided was just to link you to the section of helicopter flights rather than the actual video, as i could'nt be bothered going through them again to point out specific parts im talking about. if you watch a few though there is something to compare to the original footage in the thread as some do follow highways etc during the flight path.
im not saying i know the original footage in the thread is'nt fake but i just don't think theres anything in it so far, but thats just my opinon. |
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White may not bleed very easily on a video feed, but other colors do when near white. It's at least part of why politician's ties / clothing colors are chosen very carefully for them beforehand, so to avoid that very problem.
KT, they're right. You're grasping at straws here. That shot is waaay too far away to be conclusive about anything other than that the cameraman was standing way far away.
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Killtown
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| TmcMistress wrote: | | KT, they're right. You're grasping at straws here. That shot is waaay too far away to be conclusive about anything other than that the cameraman was standing way far away. |
How does a camera being "way to far" change dark cars into white cars and the SAME white shade as white cars?
Maybe it is YOU guys who are grasping at straws that this video is not fake? Well?
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| Killtown wrote: | | TmcMistress wrote: | | KT, they're right. You're grasping at straws here. That shot is waaay too far away to be conclusive about anything other than that the cameraman was standing way far away. |
How does a camera being "way to far" change dark cars into white cars and the SAME white shade as white cars?
Maybe it is YOU guys who are grasping at straws that this video is not fake? Well? |
Yes dammit - prove it isn't fake and save me the job of proving it is fake. |
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