Foot and Mouth Outbreak in Surrey

[David WJ Sherlock]

Cattle on a farm in Surrey have tested posivtive for Foot and Mouth.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6930684.stm

[GazeboflossUK]

I've been checking the "TV News" stations and they are really pushing this story in a seriously grim & gloomy way. Sky News in particular.

I wonder if it's going to turn into a nationwide outbreak by morning?

[Newspeak International]

Here we go again, expect huge price increases on meat and dairy products for yet more stretching of finances, with the debt payers and the poor especially affected.

[David WJ Sherlock]

I wonder how involved Portland Down is?

[Cruise4]

Portland Down... what was the concensus last time? I heard rumours they were involved but nothing further.

[paul wright]

How long's Gordon been in allegedly "in charge"? Just over a month. How many crises have we had involving Cobra meetings? Three. This is getting entirely tiresome. Will the pyjama people ever see through it? Tell me about it.

[Leiff]

Were there any bio drills in the area?

[Mark Gobell]

Can't find any news on bio exercises in August.

There was a FMD exercise last September starting on the 15th until the 22nd, making the 2.8.7 notification the 10th month and 19th day of it's start.

DEFRA also states that the most recent suspect FMD case was reported on 26.10.2006

That turned out to be false.

The latest case in Surrey was reported on 2.8.2007

9 months, 1 week and 1 day from 26.10.2006

[Mark Gobell]

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_ar ticle_id=473135&in_page_id=1770

[marndin]

I think what we need to understand here, is that foot & mouth is the cow equivalent to the 'Flu' 95% of the animals would make a total recovery, and no one has yet explained to me why this is percieved as such a problem.

Humans can't catch it!

Secondly, it raises the question of vaccination efficasy; there is a vaccine if it works why not use it? Answer: Because vaccinations don't work, (it's more sinister than this but) they are a massive money spinner.

Yet another example of the "strategy of tension" bieng used...Google it.

Martin

[Cruise4]

Hi marndin "Humans can't catch it!"
and to answer my own earlier question below is a flashback to last time currently on Prison Planet...


Foot And Mouth Released In Agraterrorism Attack On UK?
By Patricia Doyle, PhD
dr_p_doyle@hotmail.com
4-13-1

Prologue

Why would a top secret lab, Porton Down, keep a benign virus, like simple FMD, in a biolevel 4 unit with SMALLPOX, EBOLA, ANTHRAX, and a very VIRULENT and, I suspect, ALTERED STRAIN OF TB? Why? FMD virus is usually kept in biolevel 3 unit.

So, why is this one, the one that had been stolen from this high security, top secret facility, so different that it must be kept in level 4 with bioweapon pathogens? Have they discovered HOW to make FMD jump the species barrier?

I am now 100% certain that:

1. FMD was released on purpose in the UK.

2. the FMD virus released in the UK was from the stolen vile from Porton Downs, and it is GENETICALLY ALTERED, weaponized, and probably highly unstable. Ergo, the mass culling of all animals.

3. MAFF Officials, as well as Porton Down scientists probably do not know how the stolen virus will react in the environment. I believe that this version of the FMD virus can probably travel a lot further then non- engineered versions. I also believe that this version may be able to jump the species barrier to man.

4. this strain can become a very lethal killer to humans.

****


Foot-and-Mouth Disease Virus (FMDV) Why is the FMD outbreak in the UK different?


I have been saying that the Foot-and-Mouth Disease outbreak in the UK has some anomalies that make it different from the other Foot-and-Mouth Disease outbreaks around the world.

We first learned about an outbreak of Foot and Mouth Disease in the UK, February 20, 2001. The origin of Foot and Mouth Disease virus was traced to Bob Waugh's "Burnisde Farm" in Heddon-on-the-Wall, UK. Bob Waugh's "Burnside Farm" was confirmed by Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (MAFF)to be the origin of the Foot-and-Mouth Disease outbreak in the UK.

There were certain oddities pertaining to Mr. Waugh's farm. The Burnside Farm was filthy, with cramped animal pens, some of which contained dead animals scattered throughout the pen with live animals. In short, Bob Waugh's "Burnside Farm" was a perfect "ground zero" for an outbreak. December 19, 200, Bob Waugh's farm was visited by Animal Rights Activists, and also by Mr. Martin Coutts, who is a Press Officer for Hillside Animal Sanctuary in Norwich, UK.

When I spoke to Mr. Martin Coutts on the telephone last week, he informed me that he had visited Bob Waugh's farm in December because he, and his associates feared Foot-and-Mouth Disease might occur. The visit was two months prior to the Feb. 20, 2001 outbreak. I would concur that his fears were realized.

Three months prior to the Foot-and-Mouth Disease outbreak in the UK, the US held Foot-and-Mouth Disease simulations in Texas. I have been told by Paula McCann, a Producer for an overnight BBC radio show, called "Up All Night," that the UK had also held Foot-and-Mouth Disease Simulations just prior to the actual outbreak.

Foot-and-Mouth disease is a non-lethal virus in the family Picornavirus of the genus Aphaviridae. It is really only lethal to young and newborn animals. It carries less then a 5% death rate for those animals. It does result in loss of productivity for older animals who had contracted the virus. Animals who have had the virus do not maintain body weight, and females experience a major loss in milk.

There are also major problems for Countries with active Foot-and-Mouth Disease status. These Countries are unable to export livestock or livestock products. The disease is really a major economical blow to a Country that has endemic, and active Foot- and-Mouth Disease.

There are several vaccines available to prevent Foot-and-Mouth Disease, but, there is also a major downside to using these vaccines. Synthetic marker vaccines for FMD are still at the developmental stage. Vaccines can, occasionally, be contaminated with live virus, thus the vaccine can cause a FMD outbreak.

Vaccinated animals may be difficult to distinguish serologically from previously-infected animals thus eliminating serology as a method of identifying infected animals. In the case of an active outbreak, such as presently in the UK, attempts to "emergency vaccinate" animals, the vaccination teams can spread disease as they make rounds from farm to farm. Lastly, vaccinated animals may become infected, and show less severe signs of disease, despite shedding virus, thus prolonging an outbreak by allowing infected animals to escape ready visual detection. One other problem is that vaccinated animals will show FMD virus antibodies and thus, endanger a Country's FMD-free status.

There is also another anomaly about the UK outbreak. The UK is the ONLY Country that is doing mass culling of all animals, both healthy and ill.

Other Countries where FMD is endemic or has broken out, only cull sick animal herds. In some cases, only animals at risk, within 2 miles of the outbreak might be culled. The policy of the UK is to cull all animals, healthy as well as sick.

I have learned from my sources in the UK that MAFF had purchased much of the wood, prior to the outbreak, that is now being used for funeral pyres. How did MAFF officials KNOW that they would need the extra wood for funeral pyres caused by an outbreak of FMD, that had not occurred at the time the wood was purchased?

IF you watch the evening news over the past two months, then I am sure that you have seen tourists coming from the UK entering the US swiping their feet in disinfectant. Even luggage had to be disinfected. We have been told that Foot and Mouth Disease type O had been pandemic.

We see ONLY WITNESS-TOURISTS FROM THE UK being disinfected. India has had an outbreak of Foot-and-Mouth Disease Virus that had merged with hemorrhagic septicemia, yet, we do not see Indian or Bangladesh tourists having to disinfect their shoes when entering the US. Why only tourists and visitors from the UK? Is there anything "different" about the strain of Foot-and-Mouth Disease Virus in the UK?

Lastly, according to Monday's article in the UK Daily Mirror, a test tube of Foot and Mouth Disease virus had been stolen from the Porton Downs top secret labs in the UK. It was reported that the FMDV was kept in the same biolevel 4 unit as Smallpox, Ebola, Anthrax and a very virulent strain of TB. Foot-and-Mouth Disease Virus is normally kept in biolevel 3 unit.

* What is so different about the stolen FMD virus?

* Why did this vile of FMD virus have to be kept in level 4 unit with Smallpox, Ebola, Anthrax and Virulent TB?

* Was this FMD virus genetically altered?

* Has it been altered to merge easily with other viruses, such as hemorrhagic septicemia?

* Who took the vile and where is it?

* Is this the Foot-and-Mouth virus causing the UK outbreak?

* Is there any other pathogen missing from that same unit? Smallpox, Ebola, TB, or Anthrax?

* Why would someone only take a virus that is not even lethal to animals? Or is it?

Thank you, Patricia Doyle

Patricia A. Doyle, PhD Visit my "Emerging Diseases" message board at: http://disc.server.com/Indices/93896.html

Zhan le Devlesa tai sastimasa

[Newspeak International]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy_of_tension

to martin

[flamesong]

It comes as a bit of a surprise, given their article hiding reputation, that Indymedia should sprout such conspiracy theories but here is a completely different perspective:

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/08/377582.html?c=all

[Mark Gobell]

Latest from DEFRA:

The FMD strain is being linked to the Institute of Animal Health at Pirbright.

[karlos]

Maybe the Rothschilds and their labour party subsiduary want to buy up some more farmland on the cheap.
Surrey nice green belt to build another yellow brick estate.

This foot and mouth is another scam. The meat does not have to be wasted. There are vaccinnes with better odds than the crappy mercury vaccinnes they give our kids. Another £5.5 billion of tax payers money will be wasted simply because the Rothschilds want to buy up more land on the cheap.

Never ending wars, Never ending plagues, never ending chaos,
the protocols of learned elders of zion

[Shoestring]

I've managed to find one article from the Russian news agency Itar-Tass, which states that the Pirbright Laboratory, located about six kilometers from the affected farm, "hosted an international drill last month during which live viruses of foot-and-mouth disease were used," according to "a number of sources." See:
http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=11769907&PageNum=0

Let's see if we can find some more articles about this.

[uselesseater]

This morning Radio 4 were reporting that the particular strain had come from a lab, just like the outbreak in 2001. Animal rights protestors last time wasnt it?

Here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6931858.stm

http://www.physorg.com/news105519864.html

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20070021581

[karlos]

Yes it is all over Sky news too now.
So once again we see the hand of government behind this suffering and loss that the British farmer will suffer.

[uselesseater]

We should ba capitalising on this casual admission of government involvement with the outbreak of FMD again. It is almost as if they are goading us.

I think the average farmer must be pretty pissed off at the government/EU contingent and might prove fertile ground for the seeds of the awakening.

[Mark Gobell]

Please visit http://warmwell.com and http://www.fwi.co.uk/Home/Default.aspx for the farmers pov.

A sample email:

[uselesseater]

Merial is a subsidiary of Merck i think.

[Mark Gobell]

August 06, 2007

OK Gordon What Do You Know?

http://www.tapestrytalks.typepad.com/

Funny how our 75,000 tonnes of beef exports are banned worldwide when we have a FMD outbreak that is infinitessimally small (so far) and yet we import 300,000 tonnes of beef from Brazil where foot and mouth is endemic.

Could Gordon Brown explain to the British people why the last outbreak in 2001 was kept secret for four months? Can he explain why the government alleged that the Cleveland outbreak in pigs was the start of the epidemic, when it knew perfetly well the disease had been running in sheep previously?

Did Gordon Brown approve of this deception taking place ? What did he say about it to anyone at the time - or if not then, what does he say about it now?

Or does he deny that the deception took place?

The evidence that someone knew foot and mouth was 'coming' in 2001 is not in doubt. MAFF (now DEFRA) bought up all the spare railway sleepers in Britain for the incineration of millions of animals before the outbreak was announced. British farmers were made to dip all their footwear when travelling to the USA prior to the outbreak being announced.

Some commentators such as Jeff Rense of Rense.com jumped to the conclusion that the outbreak was planned and deliberately caused. But what hadn't occurred to him was that the outbreak had already started when the 'preparations' were taking place.

The only politician to go public about the keeping secret of the outbreak for four months was Jeffrey Titford MEP of UKIP. He put out an internal party briefing on the internet, giving the details of the story early in 2001. The media completely blanked the government's deception at the time, and you wonder if the Official Secrets Act was put into effect to notify the media to leave alone. It must have.

The secrecy ensured that the disease had spread far and wide before anything was done. One quarter of Britain's farm animals, most of them totally healthy were then slaughtered. It is too big a story to remain secret. It was then and is still now a deception practised on the British people by their own government, which ended up costing £8 billion in halting the disease and another £8 billion in lost earnings for tourism and leaisure industries.

Any journalist trying to follow this should start by interviewing Jeffrey Titford. And then dig around. There is a big story here which has yet to break, and which should be broken. b* the Official Secrets Act.

It is time that the British people were told the truth. The question is - Should Blair have used the Official Secrets Act to cover up his government's disasterous handling of the crisis? And the current Prime Minister Gordon Brown must surely tell us what his views on this are. He was the Chancellor after all, and must have noticed the loss of £16 billion. What did he know?

[GazeboflossUK]

Update: Russian news agency ITAR-TASS is reporting that the release of the virus came after an "international drill" last month that was held at Pirbright Laboratory, in which live virus was used. Real attacks are always shadowed by drills to provide culpable deniability.

(http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2007/050807_foot_and_mouth .htm)

[Mark Gobell]

Both TASS links above are based on a Mail on Sunday story which does not mention the alleged exercise.

[Shoestring]

[Mark Gobell]

[Mark Gobell]

Monday, 6 August 2007, 20:46 GMT 21:46 UK

Fresh cull in foot-and-mouth zone

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6934186.stm

A fresh case of foot-and-mouth disease is suspected in Surrey, the chief veterinary officer has confirmed.

Cattle, within the 3km protection zone set up around the farm where the first outbreak occurred, are being culled as a precaution.

Chief veterinary officer Debby Reynolds said they had found something "suspect" and the animals were being culled to "minimise any chance of spread".

A report, due on Tuesday, will establish if it is another outbreak.

The BBC understands the new foot-and-mouth cull will affect between 50 and 100 cattle.

Dr Reynolds said the second potential outbreak site was a "small number of kilometres" from Wolford farm, near Guildford, the first infected premises.

Vets identified clinical signs of the disease in a herd on one of their regular visits to farms in the protection zone.

Samples are being analysed for official confirmation.

Dr Reynolds said: "The intensive work of Animal Health has meant that we have been able to rapidly identify this suspect case and take appropriate action swiftly.

"I continue to urge all animal keepers to be vigilant for signs of disease and practice strict biosecurity."

[Mark Gobell]

BBC are reporting this as related.

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article.aspx?articleID=3855

Cattle cull at research centre

Wed, February 21 2007

By Miles Amoore, Reporter
Email: newburytoday@newburynews.co.uk
Phone: 01635 564632

Compton’s animal research centre closes high security unit after bovine tuberculosis scare

FEARS that workers at Compton’s animal research centre might have contracted bovine tuberculosis have led to the cull of cattle and the closure of the facility’s high security unit.

Fifteen disease-infected cows had to be culled after the discovery was made on February 2 by the government’s health and safety inspectors who found a fault with the unit’s ventilation system, leading to fears that researchers at the Institute for Animal Health (IAH) may have breathed in tuberculosis contaminated air.

The discovery came three months after inspectors had issued an improvement notice following concerns that workers at IAH were at risk of the waterborne legionnaires’ disease.

It is unknown how long the problem has gone on for and scientists at IAH confirmed that higher levels of TB had been used in past experiments, increasing the chance that cattle were excreting the disease and infecting workers.

The experiments carried out at the time of the unit’s closure involved infecting cows with bovine TB to test whether the inoculation used to prevent TB in humans could also be used as a preventative measure in cattle.

[Newspeak International]

As already stated the drill:

http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=11769907&PageNum=0

(sorry I just read it elsewhere)

[uselesseater]

Hold the press!

Caller on 5 live just said that the lab in question had been granted a licence to produce a vaccine for the particular strain only 3 weeks previous. Apparently it is the only place in the world where the particular strain exists.

Should be able to download it later.