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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:57 am    Post subject: a question for planehuggers Reply with quote

Click on the video link below.

From 8:08 until 7:48 both towers are clearly in the camera shot from Chopper 4.

At 7.48 we have an explosion

The female news host says "Oh Err if your taking a look now you can see that we have just had another explosion"

Yes another explosion "not another plane". This intimates that the news reader believed the first impact was purely an explosion.

There was no plane in the film and the news host did not see one.

There can be no argument to say "ah but the plane approached from an angle the newsreader could not see" because in all the footage where the plane is seen with the sea as the backdrop the plane approached from the right.

Please explain the lack of a plane and the fact that the newsreader did not report seeing one


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:16 pm    Post subject: Re: a question for planehuggers Reply with quote

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Click on the video link below.

From 8:08 until 7:48 both towers are clearly in the camera shot from Chopper 4.

At 7.48 we have an explosion

The female news host says "Oh Err if your taking a look now you can see that we have just had another explosion"

Yes another explosion "not another plane". This intimates that the news reader believed the first impact was purely an explosion.

There was no plane in the film and the news host did not see one.

There can be no argument to say "ah but the plane approached from an angle the newsreader could not see" because in all the footage where the plane is seen with the sea as the backdrop the plane approached from the right.

Please explain the lack of a plane and the fact that the newsreader did not report seeing one


I think it criminal that people would even consider planes were involved, are those the type of thoughts you have too Easy?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep good explanation..................best one so far anyway
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are plenty of explainations for this in previous threads made about it.

anyhow, there are numerous shots with planes in and some also without,
the shots without planes are usually log distance or being filmed from the opposite side to the impact.

so if a clip with no plane impact proves there was no planes, does a clip with a plane impact in it prove there was planes?

which one is lieing?

or are they both true and it has more to do with compressed video not picking up on small details depending on what the background is the plane is flying past from that certain angle?

i find the NPT arguement also ignores totally any evidence for a plane and cherry picks the rest of its information.

there is just as much evidence for a plane(if not more) than there not being a plane.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don'y you answer my question Marky?

Don't answer a question with more questions
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy Rider wrote:
Why don'y you answer my question Marky?

Don't answer a question with more questions


ok here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uaDPp-91iE

there is more evidence for a plane than there not being a plane, NPT'ERS
cherry pick the angles to fit their theory, i might hide behind a rock and start the no marky theory Rolling Eyes .
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U90ySUwX-xA&mode=related&search=

here another, i could find tons of them, but i wanted to show the ones that have demoltion charges going of also at the point of impact, EXPLAINING! why it was so easy for the plane to go through the building.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG25MRnPy1o&mode=related&search=

and another, look how the plane appears invisible when flying over the background of the buildings, this is what happens on low res compressed video's and explains why in some shots we dont see a plane even though there is one there, take note of demolition charges going of also.
so we aint just talking about a plane impact on its own(could explain the melting).
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You still have not answered the question other than spouting gibberish
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does itt matter ? It is an inside job, we'll still be arguing when the next attack comes Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For goodness sake, it is only Thought Criminal with another hat on.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy Rider wrote:
You still have not answered the question other than spouting gibberish


you asked to explain the lack of plane, i explained how there was no lack of plane, the newsreader not seeing one will depend on the angle shown in the studio at the point of impact and if he was paying attention to the screen or something/someone else.

after looking at other angles they were able to confirm a plane had hit.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does itt matter ? It is an inside job, we'll still be arguing when the next attack comes Razz


how are people expected to see evidence for things if they are not debated?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another newsreader sees no plane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2v04xpp91I
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy Rider wrote:
Another newsreader sees no plane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2v04xpp91I


Then they should whizz down to Specsavers - the plane is clear from 9 - 11 seconds.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

telecasterisation wrote:
Easy Rider wrote:
Another newsreader sees no plane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2v04xpp91I


Then they should whizz down to Specsavers - the plane is clear from 9 - 11 seconds.



Me too..............yep your right their is a clear blob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy Rider wrote:
telecasterisation wrote:
Easy Rider wrote:
Another newsreader sees no plane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2v04xpp91I


Then they should whizz down to Specsavers - the plane is clear from 9 - 11 seconds.



Me too..............yep your right their is a clear blob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Of course there is a blob TC, the distance, the quality - I wouldn't expect any other description from Youtubey type of output. However, we know that it was an aircraft, hence the identity of the blob is clear.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So we have a blob on one video and no blob on the other.

They cannot both be genuine, so there must be some video fakery here
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy Rider wrote:
So we have a blob on one video and no blob on the other.

They cannot both be genuine, so there must be some video fakery here


I understand your confusion, many cannot grasp perspective coupled with poor quality video.

In the top screengrab, the blob/aircraft is essentially out of the line of sight as it approaches, in the bottom one, the background clearly lets you see the plane against the lighter sky between the gap min the buildings. This is not evident as an aircraft at first glance, it is easy to see why the newsreaders would have not linked the explosion with another plane at that time. It is only post-event when they get additional information that they understand what has happened.

We have been over this countless times TC.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This must the at least the 911 th time i've posted about this Chopper 4 no plane nonsense.

Whoever is promoting this shot as not containing a flying object is either blind, stupid or both.

I stopped the Chopper 4 video as soon as I see the blob on the right hand side horizon at 7:58

I put a circle around it's start position so that we can all see where it starts it's track into the frame.

Once you know where to start looking, replay the video and watch that part of the screen, then follow the blob as it moves from the start position to the twin towers.

Case closed.



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