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http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/18834.html
| Quote: | President Bush charged Thursday that Iran continues to arm and train insurgents who are killing U.S. soldiers in Iraq, and he threatened action if that continues.
At a news conference Thursday, Bush said Iran had been warned of unspecified consequences if it continued its alleged support for anti-American forces in Iraq. U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker had conveyed the warning in meetings with his Iranian counterpart in Baghdad, the president said.
Bush wasn't specific, and a State Department official refused to elaborate on the warning.
Behind the scenes, however, the president's top aides have been engaged in an intensive internal debate over how to respond to Iran's support for Shiite Muslim groups in Iraq and its nuclear program. Vice President Dick Cheney several weeks ago proposed launching airstrikes at suspected training camps in Iran run by the Quds force, a special unit of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, according to two U.S. officials who are involved in Iran policy.
The debate has been accompanied by a growing drumbeat of allegations about Iranian meddling in Iraq from U.S. military officers, administration officials and administration allies outside government and in the news media. It isn't clear whether the media campaign is intended to build support for limited military action against Iran, to pressure the Iranians to curb their support for Shiite groups in Iraq or both. |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:05 am Post subject: |
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Trumped up charges against Iran. It's Iraq all over again.
| Quote: | The debate has been accompanied by a growing drumbeat of allegations about Iranian meddling in Iraq from U.S. military officers, administration officials and administration allies outside government and in the news media.
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The large majority of alleged 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. The large majority of suicide bombers in Iraq have come from Saudi Arabia. Bin Laden is supposedly in Pakistan. Who are we going to attack? Iran……
| Quote: | | Bush ought to be dealing with his oil buds, the Saudis, instead of having our GIs die in Iraq: "Hafez, whose new book is "Suicide Bombers in Iraq," has identified the nationalities of 124 bombers who attacked in Iraq. Of those, the largest number — 53 — were Saudis." Iran doesn't even make the list. -Buzzflash |
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"The war on terrorism— and certainly the war in Iraq — has failed in decreasing the number of suicide attacks and has really radicalized the Muslim world to create this concept of martyrs without borders," said Mohammed Hafez , a visiting professor at the University of Missouri in Kansas City and the author of one of the two studies.
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| Quote: | Hafez, whose new book is "Suicide Bombers in Iraq ," has identified the nationalities of 124 bombers who attacked in Iraq . Of those, the largest number— 53— were Saudis. Eight apiece came from Italy and Syria , seven from Kuwait , four from Jordan and two each from Belgium , France and Spain . Others came from North and East Africa , South Asia and various Middle Eastern and European countries. Only 18— 15 percent— were Iraqis.
In the second study, Robert Pape , a University of Chicago professor who runs the Chicago Project on Suicide Terrorism, identified the nationalities of 55 suicide bombers in Iraq . Sixteen were Saudis, seven were Syrians and five were Algerians. Kuwait , Morocco and Tunisia each supplied three bombers. Thirteen— 24 percent— were Iraqi Sunni Muslims. |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:13 am Post subject: |
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/022203A.htm
| Quote: | | Most ominously, this PNAC document described four "Core Missions" for the American military. The two central requirements are for American forces to "fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theater wars," and to "perform the 'constabulary' duties associated with shaping the security environment in critical regions." Note well that PNAC does not want America to be prepared to fight simultaneous major wars. That is old school. In order to bring this plan to fruition, the military must fight these wars one way or the other to establish American dominance for all to see. |
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When the Towers came down, these men saw, at long last, their chance to turn their White Papers into substantive policy. |
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| Quote: | | "I'm a war president. I make decisions here in the Oval Office in foreign policy matters with war on my mind," -W. Bush |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:17 am Post subject: |
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http://mediamatters.org/items/200603210013
Cameron reported Bush claim that Iran sent IEDs to Iraq, omitted that Gen. Pace said U.S. has no proof
| Quote: | | Summary: Fox News chief White House correspondent Carl Cameron repeated President Bush's claim that Iran has helped Iraqi insurgents build deadlier improvised explosive devices (IEDs), but omitted the fact that Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that there's no proof to back up such a claim. |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:23 am Post subject: |
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/260107offthemap.htm
The "Wipe Israel Off The Map" Hoax
What Ahmadinejad really said and why this broken record is just another ad slogan for war
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Ahmadinejad was not making a threat, he was quoting a saying of Khomeini and urging that pro-Palestinian activists in Iran not give up hope -- that the occupation of Jerusalem was no more a continued inevitability than had been the hegemony of the Shah's government. Whatever this quotation from a decades-old speech of Khomeini may have meant, Ahmadinejad did not say that 'Israel must be wiped off the map' with the implication that phrase has of Nazi-style extermination of a people. He said that the occupation regime over Jerusalem must be erased from the page of time." |
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You took the words right out of my mouth Me two posts ago.
It looks like the neo-cons are relly trying to make "rebuilding Americas Defences" come true all right.
Somebodys got to stop this warmonger madman Bush before more innocent people get killed.
I feel more than 50% positive that he will try some sort of trick or event to stay in power when the elections take place in america next near.
He dosen't want to see his and his pals great plans of world domination derailed now does he.
It's very worrying, very worrying indeed.
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| Quote: | | Somebodys got to stop this warmonger madman Bush before more innocent people get killed. |
China perhaps? Dr. Craig Roberts stated that he thinks China has threatened to wreck the US economy and the dollar if the USA dares to attack Iran, where China has huge economic interests. Russia has joined China in military manouevres and is a great supporter of Iran as well. Any attack will mean immense economic problems for the USA and perhaps even World War Three. I hope that the US government sees sense and can overthrow the minority of Israeli Occupied Capitol Hill who are pushing for this madness. |
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It Seems that the US has beeen wanting to take over the middle east for some time now blackcat.
They tryied to do it in 1967 with the USS Liberty false flag event, that was to be blamed on Egypt.
That was only foiled due to a russian ship appearing on the scene of the attack and being witness to it that the boats and planes stopped their attack on the ship.
Why are we (the UK) so much in america's back pocket?.
Is Britain Afraid that if we disagree with america they'll turn on us?.
Even ordinary friends don't agree with each other all the time.
When the US invaded Iraq, i was surprised that Iraq didn't put up more of a fight to be honest.
I mean we saw nothing of the Iraqi air force did we.
The US seems to be like a big bully and wants to be that way towards the world.
Blackcat said: "Any attack will mean immense economic problems for the USA and perhaps even World War Three."
Has the whole of the human race got to die just because some idiots in the USA have gone mad with power, money and war?.
They seem to have lost all sense of their humanity.
Can't people see how much of a threat they are to not only national security, but world security and peace?.
And some people STILL blindly belive them without question, i just don't understand it.
Somethings got to be done to stop these maniacs.
"Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists"
The above is what George W. Bush said.
Well i'm not with either Mr. Bush, but i am with the truth of 9/11 and trying to stop you starting anymore wars for your own gain.
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| Quote: | | I mean we saw nothing of the Iraqi air force did we. |
The Iraqi air force did a runner during the first Gulf war in 1991 when the US drove Iraq out of Kuwait. It was a most peculiar event and must have been done with the blessing of Saddam Hussein. Hundreds of planes were flown to Iran rather than fight the Americans, paving the way for an easy victory for Bush senior. Iraq barely has any air force now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Air_Force
| Quote: | Following an agreement between the regimes in Baghdad and Tehran [citation needed], in February 1991, many pilots and aircraft escaped to Iran to avoid destruction during the conflict. The agreement was for Iran to return them after the war, but the Iranians impounded these aircraft instead, claiming them as reparations for the Iran-Iraq War. The aircraft were never returned and are now in service with the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force.
These included several Mirage F1s, Su-24MK Fencer-Ds, MiG-29 Fulcrums, Su-20s, Su-22M Fitters, Su-25 Frogfoots, MiG-23s and a number of Il-76s, comprising the secretive, one-off AEW-AWACS prototype Il-76 "ADNAN 1"
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The bankster's map
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:44 am Post subject: |
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This has just surfaced: what Cheney said in '94 re: why Bush 1 was right not to invade Iraq... "it would have been a quagmire"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I
Just goes to show this Shill will say whatever his handlers feed him to say
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Well look at that, hidden * can float to the surface twice! 
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He we go.
Remember i said quite a few posts ago that:
"I feel more than 50% positive that he will try some sort of trick or event to stay in power when the elections take place in america next near."
Well i've just found this comment on a youtube video that i was watching:
"George Bush said over the weekend that the way the war is going, he "may" have to use the 22nd amendment loophole to remain in power for a THIRD TERM.
King George, consolidating power.
After his declaration last week to begin taking away property of Americans "suspected" of possible violence without a trial, this should be a little disconcerting to anyone who loves America.
We have a dictator mentality here."
Now has to how true the above comment is, i don't know but its certainly an indicator that my feelings may well be correct.
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| Louise wrote: | He we go.
Remember i said quite a few posts ago that:
"I feel more than 50% positive that he will try some sort of trick or event to stay in power when the elections take place in america next near."
Well i've just found this comment on a youtube video that i was watching:
"George Bush said over the weekend that the way the war is going, he "may" have to use the 22nd amendment loophole to remain in power for a THIRD TERM.
King George, consolidating power.
After his declaration last week to begin taking away property of Americans "suspected" of possible violence without a trial, this should be a little disconcerting to anyone who loves America.
We have a dictator mentality here."
Now has to how true the above comment is, i don't know but its certainly an indicator that my feelings may well be correct. |
Can you link that Louise? If Bush directly says that, a lot of people are going to want to know!
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| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:51 am Post subject: |
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Hi John
The comment was made by someone in responce to the following youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMBDCQ4cPx0&mode=related&search=
I haven't seen bush directly say that so i don't know if the comment is 100% true but if he did, it could be an indication that what i suspect might happen could come true.
And thanks again for your support in critics corner, i do wish those people who doubt us would join us to help put a stop to the lies and the evil of the bush administration.
I feel that a lot more people are going to be needlessly slaughterd if they are not stopped.
More pain, more suffering, more death, more war  .
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| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:36 am Post subject: |
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Here's another amazing bit of information that hasn't seemed to register with the American public for some reason? It defies logic to me that this was never a major topic of discussion. Most of you probably already know this. But just in case.
Defending the Saudis against the 9/11 families. Whose side are they really on?
For those that don’t know, James Baker was a Bush appointee. His law firm defended the Saudis against a lawsuit filed by the families of 9/11 victims. He's now making a fortune thanks to the war in Iraq which was helped along by those pesky Saudi hijackers. This ought to make you sick for one, but then even more suspicious.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3067906/
Saudis hire some of the toniest U.S. law firms to defend them against the landmark $1 trillion lawsuit on behalf of the victims of 9-11.
| Quote: | THE OPENING DEFENSE SALVO in what promises to be a bruising legal battle was fired last week when a trio of lawyers from Baker Botts, a prestigious Houston-based law firm, filed a motion on behalf of Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz, the Saudi defense minister. The motion attacked the 9-11 lawsuit as a “broadside indictment of Saudi government, religion and culture.” It also argued that, as the third-ranking official of a foreign government, their client is immune from any U.S. legal action and that he should therefore be dismissed from the case altogether.
But in laying out their arguments, Sultan’s U.S. lawyers also presented highly detailed new evidence of the Saudi government’s role in funneling millions of dollars to a web of Islamic charities that are widely suspected by U.S. officials of covertly financing the operations of Al Qaeda and other international terrorist groups. |
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Baker Botts, Sultan’s law firm, for example, still boasts former secretary of State James Baker as one of its senior partners. |
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20041101/klein
| Quote: | | When President Bush appointed former Secretary of State James Baker III as his envoy on Iraq's debt on December 5, 2003, he called Baker's job "a noble mission." At the time, there was widespread concern about whether Baker's extensive business dealings in the Middle East would compromise that mission, which is to meet with heads of state and persuade them to forgive the debts owed to them by Iraq. Of particular concern was his relationship with merchant bank and defense contractor the Carlyle Group, where Baker is senior counselor and an equity partner with an estimated $180 million stake. |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:41 am Post subject: |
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I can’t remember if I posted this before or not? If it’s a repeat I apologize in advance. But here it goes. Tell me if this makes any sense in terms of the official explanation for the war on terror. Keep in mind the Pakistani ISI connection.
Bush once stated that we could never invade Pakistan, even if to catch Bin Laden because they’re a sovereign country and that wouldn’t fly. Since when did the neo-cons suddenly begin respecting the sovereignty of other nations?
| Quote: | | On the 15th of September, Dubya said that in response to a question about whether he would send troops into Pakistan to hunt down Osama bin Laden said: “Pakistan — if he is in Pakistan, which this person thought he might be who was asking me the question — Pakistan’s a sovereign nation. In order for us to send thousands of troops into a sovereign nation, we’ve got to be invited by the government of Pakistan.” |
Let’s review the Bush-Cheney-Rove doctrine really quick.
So we have to ‘first be invited’ in to a country (Pakistan) which apparently ‘harbors Bin Laden’ who was ‘supposedly responsible for the 9/11 attacks‘? And yet we 'can invade’ a country which had ‘no ties to Bin Laden’ for an Iraq war that was supposed to be ‘in response to the 9/11 attacks‘?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/14/AR2006 091401545.html
CIA Learned in '02 That Bin Laden Had No Iraq Ties, Report Says
Whatever ever happened to this Bush declaration?
| Quote: | "...any nation that harbors terrorists is a terrorist state."
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It makes about as much sense as 'funding Al Qaeda' at the same time as we’re supposed to be 'at war with Al Qaeda'.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/022607A.shtml
Hersh: Bush Funneling Money to al Qaeda-Related Groups
And then people wonder why so many people don’t support this ass-backwards war policy?
Black is now really white and up is down.
Many ignorant Americans still believe that there were WMD’s in Iraq and that Saddam was responsible for 9/11. Continued support for Bush hinges upon great levels of ignorance and misinformation. In other words, Fox News.
Orwell would be shaking his head in amazement. |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:44 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Why are we (the UK) so much in america's back pocket?. |
I believe the hidden link is the wealthy international bankers calling the shots. There's one thing that always transcends borders and that's money. |
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