Hassle in the workplace

[TonyGosling]

Here's another story which might well make you mad Gareth,

Seriously though, the best lesson that can come out of your experience is that its a great national tabloid story and that we should let the world know about it.
Certainly worth telling your local paper's newsdesk at the bare minimum.
And call for a national boycott of First Recruitment.
Don't take it like a bi..., errr, I mean, lying down.
You are Spartacus!

[gareth]

I'm visiting my local Citizens Advice Bureau monday.

[Busker]

Despite Tele's comments further up the thread, I think a publicised boycott of the agency may be worthwhile.

I would personally like to know which companies had discriminated against 911 researchers and as much about the circumstances as those involved were prepared to give.

That way I'm alerted to their prejudice.

After all, employers used recruitment agencies as well as people looking for work. 911 people are everywhere you know?

How about a separate forum area for people to post their experiences? Would the IP of the poster give sufficient legal protection to the forum owner?

[telecasterisation]

[Louise]

I think its absoluely digusting what happened to gareth.

I have every sympathy for him.

Whatever action he decides to take i wish him all the very best of luck.

Why should he be punished just for talking about his views on 9/11.

Why are some people frightend to talk or have people talk about the subject?.

Why should the real muderers of 9/11 get away with it just because of the position that they hold?.

I back you all the way gareth, as i'm sure most if not all the other people on this forum do (well except the critics i suppose maybe).

[andyb]

For my sins I used to be a recruitment consultant. The agency would not have pulled him out of the job unless asked to by the employer and replaced by somebody else. The agency are serving the employer and the customert is always right, especially if you want repeat business. I don't think boycotting the agency will achive anything. Pursuing the matter as a form of discrimination and trying to get some local publicity is all that would happen but then Gareth's name would be out there as a problem temp and he'd find it difficult to secure more temp work.

A better course of action would be to find out the manager involved and writing him an email, with no abuse or speculation!!, letting him know a few things. I think thuogh that Gareth should be able to decide what letters get sent, so I would suggest PM'ing him first. Failing that a little demo outside the workplace would certainly wake up a few of their other employees

[Busker]

[Busker]

[quote="telecasterisationAs I said before, a blanket 911 boycott of the agency is meaningless. [/quote]

So by your reasoning the Fairtrade movement of companies would not exist.

[telecasterisation]

The Fairtrade Movement? What does this have to do Gareth's very specific set of circumstances?

Why does everything have to get blown out of all proportion, this is now just like all the daft debates on smoking, the internal combustion engine getting dragged in when the comparison card is automatically played. You play the 'orange and banana' card to make convoluted analogy?

Incidentally and more importantly, why is Cilla Black no longer on our television screens? She is an institution and should be nurtured, don't you agree?

[kc]

Quick question: How many of those planning to boycott said recruitment agency are in a position to ever use one?

[Busker]

[telecasterisation]

[Mark Gobell]

I'm curious as to what advice you would give one of your children in a similar position Tele ?

[telecasterisation]

[Mark Gobell]

I was thinking parental advice before the event.

As in:

Ok <child> keep your mouth shut and just buckle down.

or

Ok <child> stand up for what you believe in.

Or

Anywhere in between, just in case you need a don't know option.

[telecasterisation]

The first thing I would do is say 'Sit there and tell exactly what happened, don't leave anything out?'. This is because, so far we have got;

[Eckyboy]

I will never register with an agency again after what happened to me back when I worked for a big company back in 2005. I was getting 100% quality assurance in my calls in regards to dealing with customers and yet because I missed my sales target by one I was sacked. The sales targets were originally 5 a month but one day they shot upto 25 sales a month. I never had a problem with sales up until the point I was told to actively miss sell to customers and tell them anything to get them to sign up. When I complained about this I was told I was being negative and would not be offered a long term contract if I continued with this attitude. I explained that this is not good customer service and is against not only my principles but also the very mission statement that this company uses! I was the only one in my team who was not given a contract despite the fact I had the most sales upto that point and was the only one in my team who had perfect quality assurance for the past two months at this moment in time. When I was sacked they actually waited until I went home and then on the next day on my day off they phoned me to tell me I was being sacked. They then proceeded to empty the contents of my locker and binned all my items. I actually later complained that my birth certificate had been in the locker and because I knew my manager was an imbecile she would not have checked when she binned my stuff. Destroying a birth certificate is against the law and when I pointed this out my ex manager promised to provide me with an excellent reference which I dully received. The agency responsible for all this was BLUE ARROW. They were easily the most useless recruitment agency I have ever had the misfortune to be associated with and I could go on and on with even more stories about their lack of professionalism but I do not want to bore everyone to tears.

What does all this have to do with 911? nothing but it is another example of the moronic society we live in where being honest and having integrity are deemed as negatives.

[Busker]

[telecasterisation]

[gareth]

Be at peace tele. I am awaiting the 'official' reason in writing and taking that to the Bureau.

Someone as yet unknown to me who sat in my vicinity had a problem with what was heard.

The matter is perhaps complicated further by the fact that my own calm and considered conversation later inspired two further people to start their own with one of them racially abusing the other.

Maybe not though. It was something i was supposed to have said.

Could be when i mentioned:

- the evidence of controlled demolition, free fall speed, horizontal projections
- NIST only investigating the buildings until they were 'poised to collapse'.
- Gladio and the strategy of tension in Europe

All that was said by me lasted a couple of minutes. The person i initially talked to was lazing and reading a paper. He'd trained me all that week and i'd picked up his job in a day so we were in a situation where we could shoot the breeze. They're not going to be able to say i should have been working. There was no work. We'd had nothing to do for an hour!

The agency twice told me my opinion and the content of what i'd said regarding 911 was unacceptable so i'll be sure to let you know how they elaborate on that. To me that's not proper justification for ending my (temp) employment.

Kinda feels like i've been stuck in the racist/pervert/homophobe/cannibal category.

And no i wouldn't go back. I'm in different place now. I fancy some of that charity sector temp action.

[Busker]

[telecasterisation]

[Long Tooth]

My local CAB gets 75% of its annual funding from the local council/government. It raises the other 25% itself.

Now whether this is the same nationally i do not know.

So, will an organisation that gets 75% of its annual budget from local government/council, be willing to genuinely fight your corner on 'delicate' government/local government/local council matters?

The window dressing of the citizens advice bureau, likes to PR its fight for fairness for citizens, the reality is, anything too contraversial against local councils/government will see its budget erased and its employees dismissed. ( those in charge at the local CAB's do recive a wage, its only the lackie foot soldiers who volunteer their services free of charge)

[telecasterisation]

[Long Tooth]

[Busker]

[TonyGosling]

Telecasterisation

please butt out
IMHO you shouild be given a warning for disrupting and trivialising this thread.

[telecasterisation]

TonyGosling wrote:

[TonyGosling]

Oh he's back like a verruca
Gareth, could you PM me about which of these posts on your thead you want to keep or bin - cheers
Comments r 100% obvious and in a private capacity - I'm off and will answer nothing more from thee tele - you always ask such deliberately stupid questions

[Disco_Destroyer]

I think you have given Tele a headache I notice the sqashed face
Maybe you should delete the Ex-Teles so that maybe the thread goes back to normal size?