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ianrcrane Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:20 pm Post subject: 9/11, the Bigger Picture & the Quest for Truth |
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9/11, the Bigger Picture & the Quest for Truth
A few weeks ago there was some Email exchanges regarding the name of this forum. In the absence of any apparent follow-up, I would like to share the following Email:
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Dear all,
I was approached recently and asked what had happened to www.nineeleven.com; before I could respond, my (rhetorical) questioner said, "Well, it seems to me that the UK 9/11 movement has been properly infiltrated ... 'cos why else would such a great 9/11 truth site be trying to pretend that it has nothing to do with 9/11?"
I had to agree that I too was disappointed at gradualism being applied to create an apparent distance between the Forum and 9/11; first the unfortunate title of 'War on Freedom', only to be succeeded by the ultra-cryptic 'Peacing it Together'. What next, 'A forum of interest’? That way, nobody will ever find it!!
What has been created over the past two years is an outstanding resource of information, hypotheses and conjecture on a whole range of subjects, which for the most part are not unrelated to the events of 9/11, which is still the most significant event of the story so far. I, for one, have no real desire to debate the finer points of what did or did not occur on 9/11 but the nineeleven forum provides an excellent vehicle for those who wish to do so … and every now and again, a nugget of new information or new hypothesis may stimulate a fresh line of research. However, what is more important is that even the casual visitor to the forum cannot ignore that the forum provides an intriguing insight into the threads of research being undertaken by those who have been researching the events of 9/11 for some time.
Consider that the range of topics encapsulated on the forum may well be a catalyst for opening the eyes of someone who still hangs on to the orthodoxy of the OCT!
My request is for a forum title that encompasses the breadth and depth of exchanges within the existing forum. I have no desire to participate in any other UK 9/11 forum because this is where the wealth of knowledge and wisdom has been posited.
For what it’s worth, I throw the following proposed Forum title into the ring for discussion:
9/11, the Bigger Picture & the Quest for Truth
Ian R. Crane |
The Campaign to change the name of this form to something meaningful |
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kbo234 Validated Poster
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Yes Ian, the name matters and 'Peacing It Together' is altogether too cryptic. Could the site constructors reconsider this decision please? |
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rodin Validated Poster
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed. Ian's title may be a little long winded but at least it has focus. Peacing it Together is a poor pun. Even good puns are old hat... Peacing it Together also sounds very - tame... like someone playing with a Jigsaw puzzle going
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
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truthseeker john Validated Poster
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Quest for 9/11 Truth ?
9/11 & the quest for Truth ?
9/11 & Truth ? |
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QuitTheirClogs Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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John White Site Admin
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Last time we did this, I threw "British Truthseekers" into the ring
And there it is again
"War on Freedom" really was an unfortunate first choice!
My one thought about the forums name is it should reflect what we are for, NOT what we are against _________________ Free your Self and Free the World |
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Disco_Destroyer Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:17 am Post subject: |
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How about (more like what we are) a change of title as Truth seems to readily conjure up conspiracy theorist on too many occasion. How about 9/11 Jurors, or Truth Jurors at least? _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
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TonyGosling Editor
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truthseeker john Validated Poster
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:47 am Post subject: |
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John White wrote: | My one thought about the forums name is it should reflect what we are for, NOT what we are against | If we only reflect the positive, how will people see the truth that they have been lied to in regard to 911? What's wrong with a title that has both positive and negative elements? 9/11 & Truth has the negative (911) and the positive (Truth).
Or shouldn't we mention 911 at all? |
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ianrcrane Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:28 am Post subject: 9/11, the Bigger Picture & the Quest for Truth |
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My vote:
9/11, the Bigger Picture & the Quest for Truth
It might not be snappy but it's descriptive, informative and completely unambiguous!
Ian R. Crane |
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truthseeker john Validated Poster
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:45 am Post subject: Re: 9/11, the Bigger Picture & the Quest for Truth |
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ianrcrane wrote: | My vote:
9/11, the Bigger Picture & the Quest for Truth
It might not be snappy but it's descriptive, informative and completely unambiguous!
Ian R. Crane | I would prefer a shorter one but yours would be OK with me Ian. I’m not wanting to upset anyone but if it hasn't been done before why don’t we have a list of suggestions and then do a poll on them? |
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Stephen Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:31 am Post subject: |
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How about
9/11 TRUTH & THE BIGGER PICTURE |
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 3140 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:50 am Post subject: |
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TonyGosling wrote: | No.
Could work as an offshoot, but nobody sane spends months, years, building up awareness of a campaign to send the public back to the start again.
UK 9/11 Truth Campaign
UK 9/11 Truth Campaign
UK 9/11 Truth Campaign
UK 9/11 Truth Campaign
UK 9/11 Truth Campaign
Relaunch in Titanic style?
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Not entirely surely what you are proposing but if you are proposing to call it the UK 9/11 Truth Campaign, then no.
Once again.....
the whole point about the renaming that was discussed at numerous meetings last year and by email and which was accepted by a vast majority of those asked was the need to separate this forum from the campaign for the very simple reason that what gets said here does not and never has represented the campaign |
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Leiff Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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How about...
UK Truth Forum
_________________ "Democracy is sustained not by public trust but by public scepticism"
George Monbiot |
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TonyGosling Editor
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John White Site Admin
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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I'm quite uncomortable about this forum defining itself as being against their agenda: (as in Against (infered) War on Freedom) not becuase it is not, but becuase it is defining itself by a negative, which ulitmately I believe to be dis-empowering
Wheras if we are defined by what we are for (Truth, Justice, Peace) then we are building something to shift consensus reality towards what we actually want it to be
I've actually come to like "peacing it together", but then I am something of a poet in my soul, so I do get why others don't find it works for them
Nonetheless, I do stand by my thoguhts above _________________ Free your Self and Free the World |
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TonyGosling Editor
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Mick Meaney Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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mark_e Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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My vote's for either Ian C's suggestion or leaving it as it is. |
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Disco_Destroyer Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Couple of completely different ideas
Evolutionary Thinking or Truth In Motion _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
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paul wright Moderator
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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How about "we are maimed individuals trying to sort out fact from propogated fantasy" * it - just give it a name - and allow f*uck _________________ http://www.exopolitics-leeds.co.uk/introduction |
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eogz Validated Poster
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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The site could always be called "Free Beer"
You'd get loads of hits, but maybe not much more serious debate...
I suggested this because all the good potential names had been suggested, so I resorted to humour to cover for my lack of imagination. |
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