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socialist_thinker
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 Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:44 pm Post subject: Pentagon |
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What happened to the planes that crashed into the Pentagon? No-one talks about them in the media anymore and their was no wreckage. They were meant to be aiming for the white house but they couldn't find it. Isn't the white house close to the pentagon and hard to miss from the air.
Why do people not see these things as obvious evidence for a right wing U.S government conspiracy? |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:56 am Post subject: Re: Pentagon |
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| socialist_thinker wrote: | What happened to the planes that crashed into the Pentagon? No-one talks about them in the media anymore and their was no wreckage. They were meant to be aiming for the white house but they couldn't find it. Isn't the white house close to the pentagon and hard to miss from the air.
Why do people not see these things as obvious evidence for a right wing U.S government conspiracy? |
Its sometime hard to talk about objects that dont exist. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: Pentagon |
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| socialist_thinker wrote: | What happened to the planes that crashed into the Pentagon? No-one talks about them in the media anymore and their was no wreckage. They were meant to be aiming for the white house but they couldn't find it. Isn't the white house close to the pentagon and hard to miss from the air.
Why do people not see these things as obvious evidence for a right wing U.S government conspiracy? |
Planes? I must have missed the others after the first one.
Whilst I am not a critic, it is simply untrue to state there was 'no' wreckage when there clearly was. There was all kinds of bits and bobs on the front lawn and plenty of the more heavier items inside such as undercarriage.
It is often cited that there should have been easily recognised wings and a tail post-event. However, fly a relatively flimsy hollow tube at @ 400mph into a vertical purpose built reinforced surface, then add the huge explosion caused by fuel and there would be nothing left to identify.
Whilst there would have been a tiny deceleration caused by the initial impact of the front section, the entire aircraft would have been travelling at the same velocity, hence the whole aircraft would have hit the immovable vertical wall at roughly the same speed. The wings and tail wouldn't simply passively 'snap' off and drop off in one piece - the whole thing ploughed into the vertical wall + explosion = gone.
This is also often likened and compared to other crashes where aircraft have hit the ground and bits have remained intact. The difference is that the majority of crashing planes do not travel down vertically, there is the additional element of striking the ground at an angle which reduces damage considerably.
I am not saying there was or wasn't a Pentagon plane, merely the question of wreckage is often distorted to suit.
Good to see a Pentagon thread, not been one in a while. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: Re: Pentagon |
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| socialist_thinker wrote: | What happened to the planes that crashed into the Pentagon? No-one talks about them in the media anymore and their was no wreckage. They were meant to be aiming for the white house but they couldn't find it. Isn't the white house close to the pentagon and hard to miss from the air.
Why do people not see these things as obvious evidence for a right wing U.S government conspiracy? |
It is said that the Shanksville plane was meant to go to Whitehouse, this makes sense but that would be proving the impossible. As for whatever hit the Pentagon it was planned 
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what the hell is the second link going on about? it claims the nose cone (which it described as fragile previously) passed through the entire building intact inorder to punch a hole in ring c 
it also contridicts most critics who claim it was landing gear.
is it a serious debunk site or is it taking the mick? am i taking it to be serious when infact it is not and never intended to be? |
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I just read the following site posted by eogz:
http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/signs/Pentagon_Parody.htm
I can't belive the guy who wrote that, in his summing up at the end he keeps repeating:
"The U.S. government says that Flight 77 hit the Pentagon"
Well if the US goverment said that the moon was made of green cheese and that oranges are sqaure that would make them right would it????????.
Heaven help us, some people  .
Like i said before and i was "shot down" by the critics in critics corner:
We need to get hold of those tapes that the FBI are keeping hidden, they are covering up the truth.
National Security?, rubbish, what a feeble excuse.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Louise wrote: | | We need to get hold of those tapes that the FBI are keeping hidden, they are covering up the truth. |
Under no circumstances whatsoever will the tapes you mention ever see the light of day.
You cannot seriously believe that anyone will ever release a tape that implicates the real 'perps'? It would mean the end of American civilisation.
There is no court in the land powerful enough to force the tapes into the public glare.
Any tape that showed anything other than the plane in question will have long since been plonked on a burning log fire.
Forget the tapes. You, I and everyone here will never see their contents. |
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Sorry to cause confusion folks, but the second one is a parody, it is tongue in cheek.
I just thought it was a little light relief from a trying and disturbing topic.
The first one is completely serious though!
My apologies to Marky54 and Lousie for getting their backs up. |
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Telecasterisation wrote:
"You cannot seriously believe that anyone will ever release a tape that implicates the real 'perps'? It would mean the end of American civilisation.
There is no court in the land powerful enough to force the tapes into the public glare.
Any tape that showed anything other than the plane in question will have long since been plonked on a burning log fire."
So that's it then........game over.
We are in the hands and the mercy of evil corrupt people who will do with us what they will because there is no decent or honest person anymore that has the humanity to expose the real perps and protect the people.
That being the case i dread to think what life for all of us is going to be like in the near future.
And if anyone dosen't like it i guess their only option is to go kill themselves.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| eogz wrote: | Sorry to cause confusion folks, but the second one is a parody, it is tongue in cheek.
I just thought it was a little light relief from a trying and disturbing topic.
The first one is completely serious though!
My apologies to Marky54 and Lousie for getting their backs up. |
i did have a feeling it was something like that, but had to double check because it isnt far of the logic you get when debating with some critics over the evidence, so i could'nt tell. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| Louise wrote: |
So that's it then........game over.
We are in the hands and the mercy of evil corrupt people who will do with us what they will because there is no decent or honest person anymore that has the humanity to expose the real perps and protect the people.
That being the case i dread to think what life for all of us is going to be like in the near future.
And if anyone dosen't like it i guess their only option is to go kill themselves. |
I find it difficult to accept that anyone would believe that the perps still hold incriminating evidence such as tapes showing something different to the official version. There is zero chance they will see the light of day by legal or whistleblowinhg routes for the implications of this surfacing is far too huge to contemplate, they will not be sitting in someone's desk drawer.
If I committed a crime, I'd chuck the gun in the canal, burn the clothes, wash the blood off my hands. Can you honestly see the perps receiving a legal document requesting the tapes and they sheepishly hand them over, well, hand over any that show a missile?
The tapes that show anything slightly suspect are history. It's no fun facing that, but that's the way things are.
The bulk of the tapes may surface one day, all those that show nothing dodgier than a hotel car park and that will be it.
There are many things in life that people don't like, and unfortunately there is little to nothing that most of us can do about any of it, apart from controlling our internal responses to such hardships.
As for the earlier link, it clearly states it is a 'parody' at the top of the screen. |
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I didn't know what "parody" ment telecasterisation, i'm afraid i don't know the meanings of some words.
But as reguards the other thing i have always thought that there are two laws in existance one for people like us and one for the so called "higher ups" in our society, they seem to be able to commit crimes and get away with it, like the police for example they can speed on the roads and their just "testing the vehicle" things like that.
We are all supposed to live under one law but it's not like that is it.
So i wonder how many more people are going to die in their next staged event, after all they know that they can get away with it don't they.
Just so long as it isn't them or a member of their family that gets hurt...........blow the rest.
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You know, I don't buy NPT at the Pentagon. I'm sure that's pretty obvious by now. But...
| Quote: | | Notice also that the piece of metal has "rivet holes". Boeing 757-200s have rivet holes. Further evidence that this is a part of Flight 77. |
That's just funny. 
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