Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:57 pm Post subject: 911 Eyewitness Hoboken Wins LA and NY Film & Video Festi
Without a doubt the worlds most authoritative and constructive documentary this year is 911 Eyewitness Hoboken by Richard A. Siegel. Stunning original video from the day with meticulous analysis and presentation has packed theaters in both the US largest cities festivals.
In a one-two punch 911 Eyewitness has picked up two awards for two major festivals.
In Los Angeles
Documentary Awards
Best Historical – 911 Eyewitness from Hoboken
The latest news is that the king of Morocco has invited Rick Siegel to show the film at his next festival this December. Mr. Siegel has not been to the USA since meeting and understanding the 911truth leaders in person last June.
Currently Rick Siegel is working on a film with the Richard Black Project and the estate of Salvador Dali to score a new sound track for "Un Chein Andalou". This will be released for Christmas sales in the next weeks.
out of intrest did this documentary make suggestions that 9/11 did'nt happen how we were told?
radio interview with john gibson on a fox radio station
"i was 9/11 eyewitness that day, i filmed it for onlinet.v.com from hoboken and i got dragged into these 9/11 truth movement people, cause they saw some things in this video that i shot"
welldone on the awards, not bad for a documentary you were dragged into inorder to give those damned "troofers" ideas.
i have no idea how they could even think such a thing, its not like your documentary mentions such stuff .
Not one for translation or communication are you Marky? I would say you were cryptic but that would mean you had left something other than sawdust from all the thought that went into that post. The smell of burning wood tells me you are about to try and do one better than that last one. Whoohee! Get on the news! Marky is about to let one fly for the old gipper!
Come on Marky, something telling of your own self worth and accomplishments? No problem, put them here along side my own. Let's talk about Marky and his problems... no need for news. Why not move this to controversy now that Marky has controverted it? Yes, that is the idea. Come on Marky, look at the topic and lets go back to John Gibson and have you take Sophia type quotes (fictionalized for the audience) and have people answer as if your fiction had really said that. Great idea. Mark. Are you Sophia or just related?
Oh, I could go on. But if you cannot figure out that getting the "word" out is not sitting in stupid forums with the likes of john white or markys. It is in doing something even when the monkeys are doing their freak show on the side.
Since the only news coming from Dylan is that he can only make money not doing or showing anything I am out making no money but do get into the festivals, get the awards, and get the word to people who know NOTHING about the idiots on these forums.
I warn them, but just like Andrew, some kind of idiotic "faith" keeps them trying. So, anyway. Was just here to help Andrew and see if "news" was news or only certain "news" is news. Let's hope he can figure it out.
Perseverance furthers and if you think marky is a problem then just go back to your beers and forget the whole thing. It only gets worse.
Not one for translation or communication are you Marky? I would say you were cryptic but that would mean you had left something other than sawdust from all the thought that went into that post. The smell of burning wood tells me you are about to try and do one better than that last one. Whoohee! Get on the news! Marky is about to let one fly for the old gipper!
Come on Marky, something telling of your own self worth and accomplishments? No problem, put them here along side my own. Let's talk about Marky and his problems... no need for news. Why not move this to controversy now that Marky has controverted it? Yes, that is the idea. Come on Marky, look at the topic and lets go back to John Gibson and have you take Sophia type quotes (fictionalized for the audience) and have people answer as if your fiction had really said that. Great idea. Mark. Are you Sophia or just related?
you seemed to imply you were dragged into all this 9/11 stuff by the troofers because 'they' saw things in your footage. i find the statement some what misleading and confusing, i believe you were being dishonest, after all is'nt 9/11 eyewitness your documentary which claims CD and helicopters acting strange etc? you were one of the first to make something which challenged the offical story, but there you were on radio making out it was the troofers and not you.
o'well you'll still take the rewards though.
when i said welldone i meant it sincerely, its just some of your comments and attacks here do not make sense and at times i find they contridict your so called fight for honesty regarding 9/11 truth. especially when i find you lieing about people by using what i consider very low tactics(see you last reply to me) and being dishonest your self.
what happened to you? even your response to my last post is full of nonsense and is'nt making much sense.
This especially applies to long-time gatekeepers Kyle Hence and Michael Wolsey of "911visibiity" or "Visibility911" ...
or whatever cut-out/front they're using currently.
Same methods of bodyguarding the Orwellian media psy-op.
Mainly by pushing "failure and incompetence" or some vague version of LIHOP
.... rather than MIHOP.
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject:
marky 54 wrote:
what happened to you? even your response to my last post is full of nonsense and is'nt making much sense.
But Marky, Mr. Seagull is an artiste, and as such is free to be incoherent.
An affectation 'borrowed' from non-English speaker Nico Haupt, I believe.
Me? I'm still wondering what on earth could have possibly pipped Rick's opus for the Top Comedy Voice Over Award.
Well, that and why bitching about other 'troofers' is more important to him than saying ...well, for instance - "911 was an inside job" in his phone-in radio interviews.
Btw, Rick's won awards you know. In case you missed the several dozen iterations of that fact. Maybe you (a mere human) will see him at the Festivals one day!
I certainly won't.
I only go to the major ones. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
It's the only way.
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: Gatekeeping against MIHOP within the movement itself
theSaiGirl wrote:
http://911truthy.org/about.htm
This especially applies to long-time gatekeepers Kyle Hence and Michael Wolsey of "911visibiity" or "Visibility911" ...
or whatever cut-out/front they're using currently.
Same methods of bodyguarding the Orwellian media psy-op.
Mainly by pushing "failure and incompetence" or some vague version of LIHOP
.... rather than MIHOP.
what happened to you? even your response to my last post is full of nonsense and is'nt making much sense.
But Marky, Mr. Seagull is an artiste, and as such is free to be incoherent.
An affectation 'borrowed' from non-English speaker Nico Haupt, I believe.
Me? I'm still wondering what on earth could have possibly pipped Rick's opus for the Top Comedy Voice Over Award.
Well, that and why bitching about other 'troofers' is more important to him than saying ...well, for instance - "911 was an inside job" in his phone-in radio interviews.
Btw, Rick's won awards you know. In case you missed the several dozen iterations of that fact. Maybe you (a mere human) will see him at the Festivals one day!
I certainly won't.
I only go to the major ones.
i certainly do not understand why sophia fabricating a piece of evidence using rick's footage would lead to slandering the whole movement and accusing and attacking all 'troofers' of making up theroys which ricks documentary supports or implys.
its bizarre.
he makes a documentary providing evidence for CD, then when 'troofers' look into it and confirm he is right as well as others he starts screaming and attacking everyone and accusing 'troofers' of starting all the rumours whilst blaming and being nasty to everyone because of sophia's portion of fabrication during 9/11 mysteries, he then goes around saying that 'troofers' are making up the evidence for CD ignoring and avoiding the fact his own work says or implies it was CD.
he then claims he was dragged into it all by 'troofers' who saw something in his footage, when reality is most of us were walking around dumb believing the offical story untill we came across ricks work, which then raised questions and made us alert to what may of transpired.
it aint making any sense he would act this way towards the whole movement, i can only guess at the reasons why and it cannot just be the fact sophia was dishonest with a piece of his film.
because even if sophias film did'nt exsist ricks film would which implys CD, so we would all be sat here still looking into CD thanks to ricks work exposing some of the evidence. so attacking truthers and making out we are making things up makes no sense what so ever, unless of cause rick was making it all up to begin with and he released a documentary that was misleading people.
bah i car'nt get my head around how silly it all is.
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject:
marky 54 wrote:
chek wrote:
marky 54 wrote:
what happened to you? even your response to my last post is full of nonsense and is'nt making much sense.
But Marky, Mr. Seagull is an artiste, and as such is free to be incoherent.
An affectation 'borrowed' from non-English speaker Nico Haupt, I believe.
Me? I'm still wondering what on earth could have possibly pipped Rick's opus for the Top Comedy Voice Over Award.
Well, that and why bitching about other 'troofers' is more important to him than saying ...well, for instance - "911 was an inside job" in his phone-in radio interviews.
Btw, Rick's won awards you know. In case you missed the several dozen iterations of that fact. Maybe you (a mere human) will see him at the Festivals one day!
I certainly won't.
I only go to the major ones.
i certainly do not understand why sophia fabricating a piece of evidence using rick's footage would lead to slandering the whole movement and accusing and attacking all 'troofers' of making up theroys which ricks documentary supports or implys.
its bizarre.
he makes a documentary providing evidence for CD, then when 'troofers' look into it and confirm he is right as well as others he starts screaming and attacking everyone and accusing 'troofers' of starting all the rumours whilst blaming and being nasty to everyone because of sophia's portion of fabrication during 9/11 mysteries, he then goes around saying that 'troofers' are making up the evidence for CD ignoring and avoiding the fact his own work says or implies it was CD.
he then claims he was dragged into it all by 'troofers' who saw something in his footage, when reality is most of us were walking around dumb believing the offical story untill we came across ricks work, which then raised questions and made us alert to what may of transpired.
it aint making any sense he would act this way towards the whole movement, i can only guess at the reasons why and it cannot just be the fact sophia was dishonest with a piece of his film.
because even if sophias film did'nt exsist ricks film would which implys CD, so we would all be sat here still looking into CD thanks to ricks work exposing some of the evidence. so attacking truthers and making out we are making things up makes no sense what so ever, unless of cause rick was making it all up to begin with and he released a documentary that was misleading people.
bah i car'nt get my head around how silly it all is.
Y'know Marky, there are those who consider Mr Seagull as nothing but a self-promoting sack of sh*t:
911Eyewitness wrote:
The latest news is that the king of Morocco has invited Rick Siegel to show the film at his next festival this December. Mr. Siegel has not been to the USA since meeting and understanding the 911truth leaders in person last June.
Currently Rick Siegel is working on a film with the Richard Black Project and the estate of Salvador Dali to score a new sound track for "Un Chein Andalou". This will be released for Christmas sales in the next weeks.
Though where they get that idea from I'm not sure. Spanish artist, French title - I'm sure Rick has the artistic talent to pull it off (ooer Missus).
But then there are others who wonder about Rick's source of income, what with staying abroad for months and promoting whacky ludicrous no-planes theories and related cobblers through his websites. Of course, to worm your way into such a position takes something like having an unanswerably current account available.
Ever wonder where else in the world a dozen or so people could have such a disproportionately large voice?
Apart from the Illuminati, obviously...
Though I'm sure what with the Film Festival successes and suchlike, Rick's income is totally visible and above board.
I'll have to check the local paper - 911 Hoboken must be on all over the shop. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
It's the only way.
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:07 pm Post subject:
[quote="911Eyewitness"]Not one for translation or communication are you Marky? I would say you were cryptic but that would mean you had left something other than sawdust from all the thought that went into that post. The smell of burning wood tells me you are about to try and do one better than that last one. Whoohee! Get on the news! Marky is about to let one fly for the old gipper!
Come on Marky, something telling of your own self worth and accomplishments? No problem, put them here along side my own. Let's talk about Marky and his problems... no need for news. Why not move this to controversy now that Marky has controverted it? Yes, that is the idea. Come on Marky, look at the topic and lets go back to John Gibson and have you take Sophia type quotes (fictionalized for the audience) and have people answer as if your fiction had really said that. Great idea. Mark. Are you Sophia or just related?
Congratulations on the awards; your success must bring more people into questioning the 'Official Conspiracy Theory' trotted out by War Criminals, traitors and their apologists.
But why all this venom? Was the reason you were so interested in David Shayler's 'Illumination' that you wanted to get some of the 'good gear' yourself? There's all sorts of stuff on this forum, some of very dubious origin, and clearly we are a broad church and don't have to agree with everything. What all genuine 'Truthers' want is to expose the obvious flaws in the official line. Many of us welcomed your input with '911 Eyewitness'.
By the way, what exactly is Sophia supposed to have done, because her DVD is also widely welcomed among many of us? _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
. Many of us welcomed your input with '911 Eyewitness'.
By the way, what exactly is Sophia supposed to have done, because
her DVD is also widely welcomed among many of us?
Too bad if you need to use "us" speaking from your own mouth for your own being. Can you speak and stand all by yourself at once?
It might be wise to see real evidence vs. fantasy served by the "many of us". Can't you be you? Just ask what the hell Sophia did cause you want to know cause YOUR think 911 Mysteries is the flag to wave - like standing with Fetzer or your dear departed MI5 personality.
Sophia lies, created a fraud, attached my name to it and made her lies look as if they were mine. She took my evidentiary tape, erased helicopters, deleted the real sounds and explosions, replaced them with bogus ones, put the explosions of one building on another and talked about one tower exploding while showing the other. Disinfo, mis-direction, confussion and she says this is Richard Seegulls tape as shot from Hoboken, that is a blatant lie - it is a fabricated edited, resampled, fraud.
Most of the problems can be found in the book here http://www.911researchers.com/node/114
It links to most of the threads. When confronted with the problems as misinformation the perps (Sophia, Brad Waddell, Griffin, Fetzer, etc) did not apologize, go to fix it, talk to me, or any normal thing. Sophia sent lawyers with cease and desist, Fetzer got on the radio to defend the fantasy because it told a story, and Griffin and Jones claimed it was "The best we have". When lies are the best you have you are already on the other side.
Hoffman, he is not worthy of my time in commentary. Anyone still left posting that Jew haters tripe is toe jam under my feet. Cheers mate.
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:34 pm Post subject:
So Rick, while you're so passionately on the subject of the evils of turning documentaries into fantasy - did you ever devise a rational explanation for the 'mission accomplished' thing with the helicopter? _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
It's the only way.
So Rick, while you're so passionately on the subject of the evils of turning documentaries into fantasy - did you ever devise a rational explanation for the 'mission accomplished' thing with the helicopter?
chik, sorry, you ASS ume so much you must be one of those guys I saw on Monty Python that swing on the fence wth the suspenders etc? So, here is what I think about Chopper four. We do something here at 911Eyewitness. We show you, you look, you think, you figure out. Your nanny has to explain that, but one day- you just may get to change your own pants.
Gee, send that to your buddy Ashleee and ask, when she finishes bobbing Hoffie how come they erased the helicopters? Why are they frauds? Why did they erase the real explosions and put them elsewhere.
Then ask yourself why you flush the best part of your life down every morning?
Well, that and why bitching about other 'troofers' is more important to him than saying ...well, for instance - "911 was an inside job" in his phone-in radio interviews.
.
chewb
just noticed more of your drainage falling on the keyboard and left a smidge.
I get a laugh out of Howard Stern fans who are just like you. Call up radio, go on TV just to say "Babba Boey babba boey!"
You are an idiot.
I am not.
You will never see me use my time to such stupidity.
No "babba boey", no "911 inside job". What stupidity. I got a lot of time for that interview and a lot of mileage. Not only that I found out, by calling the FBI to complain about the frauds that Sophia is "protected" and they will not do anything about her frauds. So what can you do when they are protected by the ones we are after?
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject:
911Eyewitness wrote:
chik, sorry, you ASS ume so much you must be one of those guys I saw on Monty Python that swing on the fence wth the suspenders etc? Your nanny has to explain that, but one day- you just may get to change your own pants.
Then ask yourself why you flush the best part of your life down every morning?
just noticed more of your drainage falling on the keyboard and left a smidge.
You are an idiot.
I am not.
You're not very good at this are you, Dick?
Now stop your waffling ad hominem nonsense before I have to spank your overblown, self-important, yank arse on a public forum.
I'll put it down to nervous obfuscation.
This time.
911Eyewitness wrote:
You will never see me use my time to such stupidity.
Give me strength. Get on with it man...
911Eyewitness wrote:
No "babba boey", no "911 inside job".
At last. Yes, I can see that might derail your hopes of a media career somewhat. Don't upset the fascists. That 911 movement misused your movie. Get some degrees of separation in. Good thinking.
911Eyewitness wrote:
chewb
What stupidity. I got a lot of time for that interview and a lot of mileage.
You mean career wise? This is just more self-indulgent self-promotion, ain't it Dick?
How many times is that in this thread alone? I'm losing count.
911Eyewitness wrote:
Not only that I found out, by calling the FBI to complain about the frauds that Sophia is "protected" and they will not do anything about her frauds. So what can you do when they are protected by the ones we are after?
Dick, baby - I might not be overly au fait with US law, but I'd be pretty damn sure that editing a home movie - even someone else's - is probably not a Federal offence and therefore outside the FBI's jurisdiction.
Or would you call the CIA complaining of poor casting over there too?
Maybe you would, but it seems a bit drama-queen to me.
You're not a queen too, are you Rick?
911Eyewitness wrote:
So, here is what I think about Chopper four. We do something here at 911Eyewitness. We show you
I? We? Slipping into the old 'groupthink' there are we, Dick? Dear oh dear.
Never mind, continue....
911Eyewitness wrote:
So, here is what I think about Chopper four. We do something here at 911Eyewitness. We show you, you look, you think, you figure out.
No Rick; you show, and then go on to allege 'something', and then you get challenged to clarify your allegation.
And if you can't or won't answer, whether you consider yourself a big shot or not, you look an idiot.
That's how it works.
So one more time: what - exactly - did you allege when you captioned chopper 4 with 'mission accomplished'?
Or was that just a bit of fantasy you slipped in to liven up your tedious doc? _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
It's the only way.
The aspect I find most puerile in Rick's rhetoric is his attempts to paint his opponents as "Jew-haters". this puts him in the company of such luminaries of global democracy as "Bibi" Netanyahu and "Natan" Sharansky. _________________ http://niqnaq.wordpress.com
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:47 pm Post subject:
Rowan Berkeley wrote:
The aspect I find most puerile in Rick's rhetoric is his attempts to paint his opponents as "Jew-haters". this puts him in the company of such luminaries of global democracy as "Bibi" Netanyahu and "Natan" Sharansky.
Isn't that the standard recommended ADL 'z'-word procedure?
Mind you, coming from someone with all the gravitas of Ronald McDonald, Rick only succeeds in illuminating his own shortcomings with his swift recourse to that approach. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
It's the only way.
Maybe i am missing Something.....or coming in at the wrong end of thw argument but if we/I are/am wasting so much of our lives on these forums and in believing in 9/11 truth, why is this Segal guy on here himself or bothering to participate.
As a believer in this movement i feel my time is well spent in educating myself on these events outside of the mainstram press. If i didn't want to do that and wasn't sympathetic to this forum then i wouldn't waste my time here.
So Mr Seagull, since you don't seem to symathise with this movement who's wasting thier time participating, yourself or us? Sorry yourself or me?
Maybe i am missing Something.....or coming in at the wrong end of thw argument but if we/I are/am wasting so much of our lives on these forums and in believing in 9/11 truth, why is this Segal guy on here himself or bothering to participate.
As a believer in this movement i feel my time is well spent in educating myself on these events outside of the mainstram press. If i didn't want to do that and wasn't sympathetic to this forum then i wouldn't waste my time here.
So i don't follow Mr Seagull, since you don't seem to symathise with this movement, who's wasting their time in participating, yourself or us? Sorry yourself or me?
That is their idea. Missing everything and taking the piss as they go along. Look in the mirror to see the result. 6 years of hard work and they have you all spinning as battling tops in organizational dependencies instead of taking back your freedoms. Ah, keep forgetting there is no such thing in a Kingdom (except for the fools that think kingdoms have freedom - like some oxymoron outer space definition where work makes you free).
The best thing demonstrated here is the extreme jealousy and immaturity of the disrupters. More like a schoolyard and not much challenge. This is a treasure chest of sour grapes grasping at their own inner problems as they project them out. I am always in the forums to draw out the rats and they show themselves well here.
I write and post for the readers, not the posters. That should be quite clear by now.
I write and post for the readers, not the posters. That should be quite clear by now.
-- that'll teach anyone stupid enough to reply to you that he would have been wiser to keep his mouth shut! Way to go, Rick! Sieg Heil! _________________ http://niqnaq.wordpress.com
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject:
911Eyewitness wrote:
daretocare wrote:
Maybe i am missing Something!
That is their idea. Missing everything and taking the piss as they go along. Look in the mirror to see the result. 6 years of hard work and they have you all spinning as battling tops in organizational dependencies instead of taking back your freedoms. Ah, keep forgetting there is no such thing in a Kingdom (except for the fools that think kingdoms have freedom - like some oxymoron outer space definition where work makes you free).
I could be wrong here, but aren't you currently lying low in the Kingdom of Spain at present? Waiting for whatever it is that needs to blow over, to blow over in the Land of the Military Commissions Enacted brave and free?
The best thing demonstrated here is the extreme jealousy and immaturity of the disrupters. More like a schoolyard and not much challenge. This is a treasure chest of sour grapes grasping at their own inner problems as they project them out. I am always in the forums to draw out the rats and they show themselves well here.
And there you said it: legitimate enquiry into your use of fantasy speculation in your "documentary" footage of the 911 WTC attack being compared to your hypocritical campaign against Sofia's use of footage is merely the personal jealousy, immaturity and sour grapes of us rats ...er... that we too haven't been able to build a minor media career out of a lucky break that ... um...unfortunately (for them) involved the deaths of 3000 people?
Am I correct in that's what you're alleging we somehow unrepresentative internet forum posters are jealous of, Dick?
911Eyewitness wrote:
I write and post for the readers, not the posters. That should be quite clear by now.
Well it's obvious that you've certainly not succeeded in clarifying anything at all Dick, so appealing to some passive notional readership is pretty much all that's left here; I assume hits on your own site are still abysmally low enough to force you into some interaction with whatever corners of the outside world you're still welcome in.
However in order to salvage at least something from this ongoing
no-opportunity-missed ego-fest, and bearing in mind that Dick's venomous version of the Sofia '911 Mysteries: Demolition' Affair still ranks top billing on his internet backwater of a website, I'll include Sofia's version of events for the benefit of that mythical passive readership - or Dick's 'base', as he likes to think of you.
I'm sure professional jealousy, immaturity and sour grapes had nothing whatsoever to do with attempting to spike Sofia's much better movie.
"On May 25, 2007 Google Video and its affiliate YouTube removed links to "911 Mysteries" for reasons of copyright infringement alleged by Richard A. Siegel of "911 Eyewitness." For a number of months, Mr. Siegel and a group called "911 Researchers" have posted defamatory charges about "911 Mysteries" and its makers on a number of Internet websites and forums, accusing the video and all who endorsed it of being frauds. Fortunately, the Google links are now restored.
We have been asked to make a public statement about the attacks being launched against "911 Mysteries" by Richard Siegel, member of a group that calls itself "911 Researchers." The principal complaint is one of copyright infringement: Mr. Siegel alleges that the makers of "911 Mysteries" stole his footage without permission and incorporated it into their video, while altering it and misrepresenting it. In addition, Mr. Siegel and his group are creating and posting defamatory videos and articles on several websites which seem primarily dedicated to discrediting "911 Mysteries," its creators and some of the prominent 911 figures who have endorsed it.
The facts of the matter are that I, Sofia of "911 Mysteries" (and Avatar, LLC), first contacted Mr. Siegel and his partner Dave Shaw in the fall of 2005, after learning that they needed help to promote and circulate their new video "911 Eyewitness." I proposed to them in an email that I include a couple of clips from their DVD in a video I was creating called "911 Mysteries." At that time I was contacting a number of 911 filmmakers for permission to use clips from their work in my project -- as a way of exposing viewers to related videos they might not have heard of. Upon watching "911 Eyewitness" myself, I felt it contained some very interesting information that should be further exposed. All the filmmakers I contacted were agreeable, including Mr. Shaw, who responded on behalf of "911 Eyewitness." No compensation was offered other than crediting the film and filmmaker when the clip appeared.
In the winter of 2006 I met Jim Brewster, third partner in the "911 Eyewitness" trio and a principal of Blue Star Media Group, the entity that managed the "911 Eyewitness" business and website, located in Washington state. As Mr. Shaw and Mr. Siegel lived overseas, I began to communicate mainly with Mr. Brewster by both email and telephone in discussing use of the "Eyewitness" footage and arrangements to sell the "Eyewitness" video in the Avatar online store. Mr. Brewster informed me in many conversations that Blue Star Media Group "owns the copyright to 911 Eyewitness" and that he was the person who handled business affairs for "911 Eyewitness."
There is no formally registered copyright to "911 Eyewitness." The disk, packaging and video proclaim the copyright to be held by Richard A. Siegel and Blue Star Media Group. I acted on the information given to me by Mr. Brewster -- that he and his company were the designated business management agent and copyright holder to the work and it was correct and proper to make all business arrangements with Blue Star Media Group.
Mr. Brewster and I developed a friendship, and over time Avatar sold some 200 copies of "911 Eyewitness" in its online store. A Quicktime movie of the segments in "911 Mysteries" that included material from "911 Eyewitness" was prepared for Mr. Brewster's review in July 2006. I had discussed on the phone with Mr. Brewster the possible need to cut or edit the incorporated segments of "Eyewitness" so as to simplify and summarize the material for viewers of "911 Mysteries."
Although Mr. Shaw has now publicly announced the following: "As producer of 911 Eyewitness, I David Shaw can say categorically that I never gave Sophia authorization to use any footage from my production," email records reflect the opposite. (11/11/05: "Your project sounds interesting ... I still need to confirm things with Rick but I would say that in principle we would like to cooperate with your request." 4/10/06: "It is now 4 months since we agreed to let you use our footage at no charge ..." and "Since you are using our footage as a courtesy ... I would kindly request that our DVD be listed for sale on your site as a reciprocal courtesy.")
In April 2006, it became evident that "911 Mysteries" as originally conceived -- a DVD record of the material shown in the2005 live presentation by the same title -- was not going to be feasible as anything but a 6-hour or longer movie. So much new information and research was coming to the surface that I decided to dedicate a full 90 minutes to "Part 1: Demolitions," with sequels to follow. In putting "Part 1" together, I discovered that a soundless video clip we had shown to audiences in the spring and summer of 2005 (before "911 Eyewitness" was created) had to have been shot by Rick Siegel, as it had the same bluish color and was taken from the New Jersey shore. This segment showed white smoke at the base of one of the towers before it collapsed. As the video had been shot from a distance and as short as the clip was, audiences had had trouble seeing the smoke. We resolved to do two things: to credit the clip to Richard Siegel and "911 Eyewitness" and to freeze the clip to show the smoke with the aid of a video filter. As there was no audio to this clip at all, we added audio from "911 Eywitness" as it began, and then, to remain in keeping with the eerie sound effect in the video-filter freeze, my video editor chose to finish the scene with the rumbling of the tower collapsing rather than the WINS radio broadcast that functioned as the background sound in most of "911 Eyewitness." This 9-second segment does not bear the "911 Eyewitness" credit, and was soundless when we originally obtained it.
Sound design is a feature of filmmaking. Documentaries shot on location are frequently later edited for sound, as camera microphones are often inadequate for the purposes of proper sound recording. In many cases, separate microphones are set up for sound, which is mixed in and adjusted in post-production. In the case of some of the very low-resolution footage used in "911 Mysteries," culled from websites and archives on the Internet, there was no audio or very poor audio to choose from. In these instances, certain sound effects we added to preserve the continuity of the movie.
Most 911 filmmakers are not professionals in the field. My own background is in writing, developmental editing, screenwriting and film theory. To create a product that would penetrate into the mainstream and would seek to "tell the story" of the collapse of the towers in New York in September 2001, "911 Mysteries" includes elements of conventional film design. I hired industry professionals who had real studios. The cost of making "911 Mysteries" correlates with what is referred to in the industry as its "high production value." It is in part because of this quality that "911 Mysteries" has been well received and has been selling enough copies that the high production cost is gradually being paid down.
It was upon learning this from his partners that demands from Mr. Siegel for compensation began in November 2006. These demands have turned into slander, defamation and attempts to wholly discredit "911 Mysteries" and anyone who endorses it. It is unfortunate that Mr. Siegel feels that neither of his partners had the right to negotiate permission for use of footage from "911 Eyewitness." The fact is that he chose not to involve himself in any of the arrangements or discussions, and his partners failed to communicate properly amongst themselves about their respective authority and roles. When there is no registered copyright to a work, one can only go by what is listed on the work itself and what is relayed by the individuals who manage and handle the work. In this case, two of the three partners communicated with me on an ongoing basis about the project, giving me the green light to proceed. We had, until Mr. Siegel appeared on the scene several months after "911 Mysteries" was released, a friendly and cooperative relationship.
Mr. Siegel has now taken radical action against "911 Mysteries" on the Internet. We regard this as his right to free speech, although the down side is that his venom has compromised the sales of "911 Eyewitness," to the financial detriment of his two partners. Legally, even if I had not been given both written and repeated verbal permission by Mr. Siegel's partners for use of this footage, a non-exclusive grant of rights does not require a written license. In a subsequent update of "911 Mysteries," I have retained a mere 38 seconds of footage from "911 Eyewitness" to expose to the public what remains a valuable analysis of explosions in the towers (fully credited to "911 Eyewitness" in the hope that interested viewers will buy the DVD) -- this 38 seconds well within the realm of the copyright doctrine of fair use.
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject:
Rowan Berkeley wrote:
I hope Sofia is aware that i think she has a very nice voice.
Agree with you about the voice. I very strongly suspect that Rick is upset about Sofia not only because she made such an excellent and well thought-of documentary, but that she made it despite not being a hedonistic ex-child prodigy with a liking for dope and bullsh*t. I further suspect Sofia bribed the judges to stop our Rick getting an Oscar.
Seriously, Moderators, hasn't Rick been given enough rope? I say remove him from the Forum, and let him wallow in self-pity and self-adulation to his little heart's content. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
Since I had first seen this DVD I found it disturbing for its’ cover showing a WTC building (not WTC1 2 or 7) completely engulfed in flames, supporting the official story that the hot fires caused the collapse of the towers. The building shown did not collapse and was not "demolished" but the title “Demolition” is featured over this background.
When viewing it at minute 3:22 a man in a Harley Davidson Motor Cycle hat and t-shirt, he is portrayed as an eyewitness and featured describing, at the scene for reporters, what would later become the official storyline. "I witnessed both towers collapse, one first and then the second, mostly due to structural failure because the fire was just too intense." Here was an obvious planted disinfo witness used to reinforce the official story. Not identified as such and Sophia glides just like a Harley Davidson over it into the film.
But that, at least for me, is not the real problem. The real problem is in what this AKA Monica Smallstorm, AKA Sophia; whose real name is Sofia Shafquat along with Brad Waddell, have done to my 911 Eyewitness footage. The woman has seriously altered and mutilated my original footage and she inappropriately placed parts, edited and mutilated within her disinfo piece without asking permission, paying a royalty or using her normal paperwork she used for rights with other creators. I had no control and she took advantage creating this travesty.
I have not gone through the whole film, as it was not my intention of debunking her work. For that you may go to Screw 9/11 Mysteries
My intention was to see what she had used of my original footage without permission and how it was used. What I found was a nightmare. Following is a list of time codes to find these errors, omissions, distortions, and wideo with altered and overdubbed audio, which twisted the story being told. Instead of telling the truth and let science do the work Sophia has taken my works and twisted them to present a totally different image than what was originally there.
33:50
Shows the first of Rick Siegel’s footage of the North tower
"This video was shot from New Jersey. Smoke rises from the base of the building as an explosion is heard” (Basically this is OK and with original sound from DVD)
34:08
Second time around the same footage but the sound is replaced! Just after the dark filter effect we see the north tower collapse but the sound has been replaced with something completely different. A siren can be heard to distinguish that this is not the original sound. MAJOR DISINFO #1
35:07
Hoboken postage stamp effect "Across the Hudson River Richard Siegel was filming an astonishing day"
35:30
"Here is the south tower record" (shows South tower)
35:33 "Then the building came down" (North tower shown!!!)
This misrepresents the North tower as if it was actually the South tower and the list of pre-collapse explosions caused the building to fall. This clip lists "WTC2 pre-collapse explosions". WTC2
has just previously fallen to the ground and now only WTC1 remains. It will not fall for another 30 minutes, however, the next picture and comment indicate that happened immediately following the pre-collapse explosions listed.
. MAJOR DISINFO #2
35:33 "Then the building came down" the narrator tells us. Meanwhile the North tower segment from a completely different timeframe in the original program, is incorrectly inserted here.
Disinfo:
1. This misrepresents the north tower WTC1, to be the south tower, WTC2.
2. This misrepresents the list of WTC2 pre-collapse explosions as directly responsible for the collapse of WTC1.
3. This misrepresents the time at which the WTC1 collapse occurred because WTC2 time-codes were visible onscreen only seconds earlier.
39:57
US geological survey website Pyroclastic flow segment shows Sophia editing and removed the dissolve between the volcano and the north tower debris chimney, which was designed to emphasize the similarity. Sections were deleted that contained significant evidence.
Thermite section
45:34
"Watch this very bright substance pouring from the south tower" (This is right after the impact occurred not at the time of collapse)
45:39
Filter shot again of smoke between buildings' this time it's used in the thermite section.
"And white smoke appeared at the base of the building. (North tower moments before collapse) Would this be aluminum oxide, the byproduct of a thermite reaction?”
Two problems, she shows the south tower at the 80th floor right after impact and then the north tower right before collapse and edits them back to back with narration that sounds like they are the same building at the same point in time. MAJOR DISINFO #3
1. The south tower's 80th floor impact zone, at approximately 9:00 am, is followed directly by the north tower at approximately 10:30 a.m. showing smoke rising.
2. The narration "and" connects the two with a
continuous line of thought.
3. Continuity with the first time this clip is viewed at 33:50 is destroyed because the rising smoke is attributed to a large explosion in the original content.
4. This creates confusion in the mind of the viewer.
5. The combination of confusion and conflict will make understanding this event very difficult and could be categorized in psychological terms as "disinformation".
6. Usage without approval in a negative way is
unacceptable.
50:50
North tower sequence with multi-screen numbering the explosions
Problem, she cuts it out in the middle and doesn't let it run through.
51:30
Rick Siegel’s footage audio from the north collapse is used underneath various montage shots of different pictures but none from 911 Eyewitness.
This gives the validity to other video with the original sound explosions that would be superimposed in a haphazard manner over those other videos. Sophia proceeded with no knowledge of time code or effort at making a legitimate documentation of the explosions; it was done to make a Hollywood effect to further an agenda of more explosions than were.
All in all these 3 major errors with the additional omissions, edits and misrepresentations by Sophia and 911 Mysteries are misinformation at best and are most likely, considering the need for physical editing of the sound over the destruction sequences, on purpose and therefore disinformation. Worse is this is just what I see as I look at what Sophia has done to my original footage. What about the rest of the hour plus of other peoples footage she has done this too?
The reason I want control of my work is to keep such trash from happening. To be placed in this disinformation video in such a way twists the meaning of the original work and now it has been corrupted, changed, and mutilated where it is no longer representative of that day. I can’t imagine what this “fertile mind” in Sophia has done to other evidence as she edits, over dubs and twists the content to as she said on “The Edge AM” radio recently “911 Mysteries takes the myth by its tail and swings it around right next, to make it fit right next to the science". Whatever twists, swings or smashing it needs apparently.
Since October I have told Sophia to cease and desist and she continues to manufacture and sell these distortions of my work. I asked her to stop, pull my stuff and she has hired a lawyer to keep her stolen, mutilated disinfo piece in tact. Money means too much to her even after aledgedly making almost half a million on this mutilation.
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:26 am Post subject: Dave Shaw Calls Sophia A Liar
Dear 911 Truth Supporters,
As producer of 911 Eyewitness, I David Shaw can say categorically that I never gave Sophia authorization to use any footage from my production and Jim Brewster never received any authorization from Rick Siegel to allow use of Rick's footage in 911 Mysteries.
Originally, Sophia was introduced by a mutual friend and requested use of a 911EW pyroclastic flow segment that did not contain Rick Siegel's footage. I replied politely that I would like to cooperate with her request in principle, but would require time codes and a sample mov. video file of what she was interested in. Her only specific information provided at the time was use of the WTC7 Silverstein reconstruction sign that I had videotaped while interviewing Rick in NYC.
It was during filiming in NYC in mid-'05 that Rick and I discussed the framework and basic storyline for 911EW. I had already completed work on some scientific segments that I proposed marrying wth Rick's original footage. While I carried out the production in a separate part of the world from Rick, we were in regular communication. My use of Rick's footage was authorized exclusively for 911 Eyewitness.
Jim Brewster became involved at the marketing stage because of his location in the US and his strong patriotic values in support of the restoration of the Republic and Constitution. He was contracted to create the website and handle distribution of DVD sales. The name "911 Eyewitness" was trademarked and registered to Blue Star Media company to provide stronger protection against the evil doers blocking our use once the DVD was released and the website became popular.
All our efforts were designed to facilitate the spread of 911 truth and so we set up an information site with email-able evidence clips that could be easily shared around the world.
Sophia first contacted Rick and me in late '05 by email, recognizing that we were the two people who she needed to get approval from for any use of footage from 911EW. I replied with an intention to "cooperate in principle" with her pyroclastic footage request. She promised to send us her standard video footage license form along with timecodes and mov. files for review prior to editing of 911 Mysteries. Even after my repeated requests for this information she failed to respond to me or Rick and proceeded without our knowledge of content to be used or written authorization.
Her friendly phone relationship with webmaster and office manager Jim Brewster who was handling DVD orders for her merchant site, in no way constitutes authorization for use of 911 Eyewitness footage in accordance with US copyright laws.
She has subsequently abused the spirit of "cooperation in principle" that I extended to her as an initial courtesy. The continued errors, distortions and misrepresentations of 911EW content by Sophia and her work 911 Mysteries are numerous and will be discussed in detail in a follow up statement.
Even after receiving a cease and desist letter from Rick shortly after the release of 911 Mysteries in the fall of '06 Sophia proceeded to replicate an additional 15,000 DVD copies with full knowledge that it contained errors. She did not take this early opportunity to rectify the problems, remove our footage or negotiate some mutual agreement with Rick and myself.
Instead her lawyer delivered a threatening letter to Rick and me stating that any attempt to stop her use of our footage would make us liable for all court costs and damages related to the sale of the additional 15,000 DVDs she had just replicated.
Sophia then promised that all 911EW footage would be removed prior to the January re-edit of 911 Mysteries and she has failed to keep yet another of her promises. She has started using the controversy and her celebrity to promote the sale of an upcoming release that will also contain unauthorized use of 911EW content, in a way she has deemed unnecessary to inform us about.
Sophia recently boasted on Jim Fetzer's radio show that she is free to do whatever she wants with 911EW content because the original audio was "sound design", a "distraction that needed to be removed". This indicates that authentic audio evidence of explosions recorded before the towers fell therefore cannot be used in a court of law to convict the criminals responsible for 9.11.
Welcome to 911 Truth and Justice for those of you who just tuned in.
I hereby repeat earlier requests that Sophia remove all 911 Eyewitness content from any future versions of 911 Mysteries and Avatar cease and desist any commercial sale or public presentation of current versions that clearly constitute disinformation about the true events of 9.11.2001 and misrepresentation of Rick Siegel's authentic video footage.
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 3889 Location: North Down, N. Ireland
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: Re: Dave Shaw Calls Sophia A Liar
911Eyewitness wrote:
Dear 911 Truth Supporters,
As producer of 911 Eyewitness, I David Shaw can say categorically that I never gave Sophia authorization to use any footage from my production and Jim Brewster never received any authorization from Rick Siegel to allow use of Rick's footage in 911 Mysteries.
Originally, Sophia was introduced by a mutual friend and requested use of a 911EW pyroclastic flow segment that did not contain Rick Siegel's footage. I replied politely that I would like to cooperate with her request in principle, but would require time codes and a sample mov. video file of what she was interested in. Her only specific information provided at the time was use of the WTC7 Silverstein reconstruction sign that I had videotaped while interviewing Rick in NYC.
It was during filiming in NYC in mid-'05 that Rick and I discussed the framework and basic storyline for 911EW. I had already completed work on some scientific segments that I proposed marrying wth Rick's original footage. While I carried out the production in a separate part of the world from Rick, we were in regular communication. My use of Rick's footage was authorized exclusively for 911 Eyewitness.
Jim Brewster became involved at the marketing stage because of his location in the US and his strong patriotic values in support of the restoration of the Republic and Constitution. He was contracted to create the website and handle distribution of DVD sales. The name "911 Eyewitness" was trademarked and registered to Blue Star Media company to provide stronger protection against the evil doers blocking our use once the DVD was released and the website became popular.
All our efforts were designed to facilitate the spread of 911 truth and so we set up an information site with email-able evidence clips that could be easily shared around the world.
Sophia first contacted Rick and me in late '05 by email, recognizing that we were the two people who she needed to get approval from for any use of footage from 911EW. I replied with an intention to "cooperate in principle" with her pyroclastic footage request. She promised to send us her standard video footage license form along with timecodes and mov. files for review prior to editing of 911 Mysteries. Even after my repeated requests for this information she failed to respond to me or Rick and proceeded without our knowledge of content to be used or written authorization.
Sincerely,
Dave Shaw
Producer
Blue Star Media
"Although Mr. Shaw has now publicly announced the following: "As producer of 911 Eyewitness, I David Shaw can say categorically that I never gave Sophia authorization to use any footage from my production," email records reflect the opposite.
(11/11/05: "Your project sounds interesting ... I still need to confirm things with Rick but I would say that in principle we would like to cooperate with your request."
4/10/06: "It is now 4 months since we agreed to let you use our footage at no charge ..."
and
"Since you are using our footage as a courtesy ... I would kindly request that our DVD be listed for sale on your site as a reciprocal courtesy.")
Looks to me that providing the relevant email correspondence with Blue Star Media can be produced and verified, that Sofia's claims are more believable than those of BSM's MrShaw's after-the-fact change of stance. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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