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Dr Doom Minor Poster
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:02 am Post subject: |
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Who are the site admins, does anybody know? |
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TonyGosling Editor
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
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Rowan Berkeley Relentless Limpet Shill
Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 306
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Several of us think the site's script is buggy, so this is nothing to do with the ISP.
The mods are a different issue altogether. _________________ http://niqnaq.wordpress.com |
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ishaar Moderate Poster
Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 232 Location: uk
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject: This site can no longer be considered working |
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Could one of the mods please pm me when this site is up and running again. Like others I keep getting this:
Quote: | Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: User nineeleven already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connections in /hermes/web06/b1809/pow.ianneal911zq1/htdocs/board/db/mysql4.php on line 48
phpBB : Critical Error
Could not connect to the database |
This is one of many sites in my favourites, among them 'yorkshire truth' they all work fine, as this one used to. |
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TonyGosling Editor
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
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Rowan Berkeley Relentless Limpet Shill
Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 306
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:28 am Post subject: |
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Tony, i think the script is buggy, and your assumption that the slow down is caused by enemy action suggests that you may be rather buggy too, but this is quite ok, the world needs fantasy. _________________ http://niqnaq.wordpress.com |
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 3140 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Being an IT dunce I'm unsure how to know if a site is buggy and if it is how to unbuggify it, but Rowan any advice directed towards Mick Meaney by PM gratefully rec'd
One possible cause / solution might be to prevent guests visiting the site and just allow registered users. There appear to be a large number of guests regularly hanging around. Possibly just curious passers-by but possibly not. Any thoughts. Would preventing guests speed things up? |
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Mick Meaney Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 377 Location: North West UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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My guess is the host are cramming a ton of web sites on a single server, the problem is a database one, their mysql server can't handle the amount of requests.
Ian preventing guests might make a difference but it will also block search engines, Google brings in a lot of our traffic so if that can't index the site, then RINF becomes the main source of our traffic which isn't ideal. I wouldn't suggest blocking search engines at all.
I thought the redesign might help speed things up by making the index page quicker to load.
The problem is with PowWeb. This site or one of the site on the same server this site is hosted on is causing a massive drain on mysql resources. _________________ RINF Alternative News and Media
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 3140 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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Could it be a denial of service attack
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack
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> "One common method of attack involves saturating the target (victim)
> machine with external communications requests"
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> What happens if someone (or several people) have their finger on the
> refresh button? Could some person(s) who hang out in Critics' Corner be
> doing this? Seeing as we have to now log on to access the site could it
> be that someone who is registered is slowing the system down with
> multiple requests?
This is what I'm suspecting our current 'guests' may be doing? |
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 3140 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Can I check that all users are experiencing these problems. is anyone not experiencing these problems?
Why would we have 55 guests (as i type) if guests are now unable to view the forum?
Thanks. Trying to get this resolved asap |
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chek Mega Poster
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 3889 Location: North Down, N. Ireland
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Yes I too am frequently getting the max users SQL warning, particularly often (nearly but not quite every time) during the past week or so.
Also strangely, I haven't had email notification of responses to watched topics for ages - yet this one has suddenly appeared out of the blue when my last reply in this thread was back in Nov 2006! _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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warp66 New Poster
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 9
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:08 am Post subject: |
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I have a suspicion it could be something to do with the new IE "multi tab" browsing facility . Could it be several searches from one browser could be seen as many connections? I only started having problems when using that facility. Mind you , my knowledge of computers ends at pressing the on button |
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 3140 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:18 am Post subject: |
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Just had a on line chat with powweb who inform they upgraded their server/MySQL to 5.0 and that currently there is not a problem. I'm not convinced but I will be trying to get this resolved tomorrow.
Apologies for the problems |
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chek Mega Poster
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:19 am Post subject: |
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Nah - we can rule that one out Warp.
I still get the 'max user unable to connect warning' on office networks and homes using IE6, Firefox and Opera browsers.
And also when I've tried having a quick peak at the site from BT, Orange, AOL, NTL and C&W ISP's when fixing other peoples systems. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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Disco_Destroyer Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Disco_Destroyer Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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TonyGosling Editor
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warp66 New Poster
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:26 am Post subject: |
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thanks for clearing that up for me Chek , At least I can carry on as normal and keep my fingers crossed lol . I can see all possible is being done to try and eleviate the problem . Thx all for your efforts |
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Disco_Destroyer Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:26 am Post subject: |
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lol strangely I just found this lurking at the bottom of the page hehe I'll be quiet now
http://www.phpbb.com/ _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
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Thermate911 Angel - now passed away
Joined: 16 Jul 2007 Posts: 1451 Location: UEMS
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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FWIW - Yep, I'm getting the DB overload error msg too.
Tony Gosling wrote: | Any thoughts on this fine people? |
Get off US servers for a start! I suppose you've looked into Sealand?
A good UK ISP should be able to accommodate you without too much MIx intervention.
metronet?
nildram? (may've been taken over]
Ask the guys who still run the Argus Project gamma-monitoring service, despite govt?
Oh and please, I do hope this constriction of logged in users ONLY is an exceedingly brief technical measure!? So counterproductive otherwise, IMV.
I'm sure you have some idea how many lurkers gain their knowledge from such sites as these? Many of them govt employees trying to find the truth - no way could they log in and keep their jobs - especially cops beginning to see the light!!
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Disco_Destroyer Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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incase this was missed on the other thread? Also the same warning happened to me today at 12:48ish for maybe half an hour!
Quote: | SOLUTION!!
Your host has a limit on the number of connections to the database. Between you and every other user on the system, you occasionally (or frequently, you didn't say) hit that limit. Time to ask them about fixing the problem.
http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=504846&p=2772706&hi lit=Search+this+forum%E2%80%A6+Warning%3A+mysql_connect+#p2772706 |
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ukginger Minor Poster
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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As somebody who has been around the block just a couple of times...
The problem is caused by the Hosting Company.
What is happening is that the MySQL ( pronounced "my-sequel" ) is failing the load. An exact diagnosis as to why this might be is best summed up by the phrase
"You get what you pay for" |
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Stephen Moderate Poster
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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ian neal wrote: | Can I check that all users are experiencing these problems. is anyone not experiencing these problems?
Why would we have 55 guests (as i type) if guests are now unable to view the forum?
Thanks. Trying to get this resolved asap |
Because instead of clicking on the latest topics and getting the log in page, you can just click on the forum link at the top of the home page and access the forum that way. But I do think this will put off new comers to this site. |
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Because instead of clicking on the latest topics and getting the log in page, you can just click on the forum link at the top of the home page and access the forum that way. But I do think this will put off new comers to this site.
When I logged out and tried this I still came to the log in page?
General lurkers are v welcome and so as soon as the forum performance issue is rectified guests will be able to view again |
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Rowan Berkeley Relentless Limpet Shill
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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ukginger wrote: | As somebody who has been around the block just a couple of times...
The problem is caused by the Hosting Company.
What is happening is that the MySQL ( pronounced "my-sequel" ) is failing the load. An exact diagnosis as to why this might be is best summed up by the phrase
"You get what you pay for" |
But, is this forum worth saving? It seems to be mainly a haunt for the aged and superstitious. _________________ http://niqnaq.wordpress.com |
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Thermate911 Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Rowan Berkeley wrote: | But, is this forum worth saving? It seems to be mainly a haunt for the aged and superstitious. |
And often very reasonable sounding trolls.
The advantage of this board over many (especially most American ones these days) is just what you complain of here - openness.
Yet nothing we say can change the facts of 9/11; just their dissemination (or otherwise, as in your case).
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chek Mega Poster
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Rowan Berkeley wrote: | But, is this forum worth saving? It seems to be mainly a haunt for the aged and superstitious. |
Please Mr B. - that's no way to talk about the award winning Dick Seagull. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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ukginger Minor Poster
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:39 am Post subject: |
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Come on, stay on topic
The Forum is just a mySQL database, it can be moved no problem.
First you freeze the Forum temporarily, then you make a complete backup of the database, copy it onto the new server, install phpBB, load the database by restore form backup.
Quick test...
Go back to the original server and put in a redirect. |
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 3140 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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This from powweb. At least they acknowledge the problem is their end. I have to laugh when they say they are working with federal authorities to identify the criminals when elements of said authorities would be top of my suspects list.
Recent Service Issues
Over the weekend, PowWeb servers became the target of a Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attack. DDoS attacks are malicious attempts to interrupt Internet services by intentionally "flooding" and overwhelming providers with bogus data. Once the volume of this data exceeds an architecture's capacity, systems can no longer perform their tasks and performance issues occur.
While our hosting platform is designed to withstand such attacks, many customers experienced a service degradation, and in some cases, an interruption in services altogether. Thank you for your patience while we worked to combat the attack and bring all services back to normal as quickly as possible.
Unfortunately, DDoS attacks are not uncommon, and Internet criminals are constantly discovering new ways to disrupt services. Please be assured that we are working with federal authorities to identify those responsible for the attack and prevent any type of future disruption. If you'd like to learn more, Google "DDoS attacks" or "DNS storms." As always, if you have questions or concerns, please contact us .
- 09/04/07 at 11:40 EDT |
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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This from powweb. At least they acknowledge the problem is their end. I have to laugh when they say they are working with federal authorities to identify the criminals when elements of said authorities would be top of my suspects list.
Recent Service Issues
Over the weekend, PowWeb servers became the target of a Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attack. DDoS attacks are malicious attempts to interrupt Internet services by intentionally "flooding" and overwhelming providers with bogus data. Once the volume of this data exceeds an architecture's capacity, systems can no longer perform their tasks and performance issues occur.
While our hosting platform is designed to withstand such attacks, many customers experienced a service degradation, and in some cases, an interruption in services altogether. Thank you for your patience while we worked to combat the attack and bring all services back to normal as quickly as possible.
Unfortunately, DDoS attacks are not uncommon, and Internet criminals are constantly discovering new ways to disrupt services. Please be assured that we are working with federal authorities to identify those responsible for the attack and prevent any type of future disruption. If you'd like to learn more, Google "DDoS attacks" or "DNS storms." As always, if you have questions or concerns, please contact us .
- 09/04/07 at 11:40 EDT |
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