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 Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:30 am Post subject: If this is part of the Rector St building, which part is it? |
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Some say this object I marked in light blue in the Michael Hezarkhani video belongs to the 19 Rector St building:
Here is the top of Rector, so what is on the Hez video must been the "square" ventilator housing:
After 9/11 they added a cylinder water tank to the left of the vent housing:
Here is the top of 19 Rector via GoogleEarth:
(Yellow circle = water tank. Light blue square = ventilation house)
So that "corner of Rector" in the Hez video would have to be the Rector's ventilation housing that sits on the top-right of it and I just don't see it measuring up with reality:
If it were the vent housing in the Hez video, the left corner of Rector would be blocking the Millennium building behind it and if it's the upper left corner of Rector in the video, then you should see the Vent house to the right of the trees in the Hez video.
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Well your inability to comprehend photographs, and the tragic waste of your energies over the last few years on the NPT wild goose chase as a direct result, are of course a well established matter of public record Killtown. Maybe the answer is just to stop trying?
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| John White wrote: | | Well your inability to comprehend photographs, and the tragic waste of your energies over the last few years on the NPT wild goose chase as a direct result, are of course a well established matter of public record Killtown. Maybe the answer is just to stop trying? |
Couldn't answer my question so you, as usual, resort to personal attacks. Who in the world not only made you a mod, but KEPT you on as a mod???
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I must say, I'm all for the so-called big american names associated with 911 visiting this humble forum. It certainly succeeds in deconstructing any mistaken mystique that might have accrued to them from a distance.
So, Killtown - having seamlessly but not undetectably moved from a 'where is it' position during Dishonest Fred's last interaction on this topic, you have adopted a 'which part is it' line now. Would that be correct?
Might I ask what in the name of jumping jehosephat it matters which part of the building it is, because your deceptive insert is not a direct match to the overall scene in any case?
For you, from the information you're working from, it will have to remain a mystery.
For me the mystery is why, on the eve of WWIII, you're pursuing this discredited media fakery meme, none of which ever stands up to examination outside of the intellectual powerhouse more commonly known as the "researchers".
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| chek wrote: | 1) So, Killtown - having seamlessly but not undetectably moved from a 'where is it' position during Dishonest Fred's last interaction on this topic, you have adopted a 'which part is it' line now. Would that be correct?
2) because your deceptive insert
3) why, on the eve of WWIII, you're pursuing
4) this discredited media fakery meme, none of which ever stands up to examination outside of the intellectual powerhouse more commonly known as the "researchers". |
1) Well if you can prove it is part of the Rector St building, then I'll concede it is part of the Rector St building, but until then, the Rector St building is missing.
2) whow pal, "my" deceptive insert??? You planehuggers are the ones telling me that corner I marked in light blue is part of the Rector St building, so don't be going around calling me a liar.
3) Then don't respond to it.
4) Well if it is "discredited", then tell my which part of Rector it is Einstein.
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| Killtown wrote: | | 1) Well if you can prove it is part of the Rector St building, then I'll concede it is part of the Rector St building, but until then, the Rector St building is missing. |
From that photo it can neither be proved or disproved in the strictly black or white mathematical sense. However balance of probabilities being what they are, I'm happy to accept it's the RSB. You of course are free to 'keep asking (pointless) questions'.
| Killtown wrote: | | 2) whow pal, "my" deceptive insert??? You planehuggers are the ones telling me that corner I marked in light blue is part of the Rector St building, so don't be going around calling me a liar. |
Touchy touchy - let me be more clear. That photo with the insert section applied that you are using to make your case is from a different perspective and does not form an accurate re-creation of the scene as would be seen by an observer who was present at that location. I'll leave it for others to judge just how deceptive such cut'n'paste is.
| Killtown wrote: | | 3) Then don't respond to it. |
Well, I thought a genuine response rather than one of the mass sign-up sockpuppets hastily imported from "researchers" might add a degree of verite. But if you wanna be that ungrateful...
| Killtown wrote: | | 4) Well if it is "discredited", then tell my which part of Rector it is Einstein. |
The barely visible part obviously, my sarky amigo.
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Still waiting to for someone to prove that corner section is from 19 Rector ST.
Let the personal attacks come once again from the trolls.
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| Killtown wrote: | | Still waiting. |
Really?
What an empty life you must lead.
Does this mean that you're still pushing Fred's Full Spectrum Dominance Future Cardboard Systems New York then?
Just asking questions. (Not that I really care what wild geese you chase your tail after).
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As usual, Troll Chek responds in usual troll fashion and, as usual, "perp-free" Nineeleven.co.uk doesn't do anything about it.
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| Killtown wrote: | | As usual, Troll Chek responds in usual troll fashion and, as usual, "perp-free" Nineeleven.co.uk doesn't do anything about it. |
talk about hypocrisy - chek's not the one who's endlessely and pointlessly re-posting the same old nonsense over and over again - he's just responding to the fact that you are.
and as you're also guilty of cross-forum sockpuppetry....
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11466
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| Killtown wrote: | | As usual, Troll Chek responds in usual troll fashion and, as usual, "perp-free" Nineeleven.co.uk doesn't do anything about it. |
Don't think it wasn't noticed you avoided the question with a classic display of hand waving, Killtown. Just like a troll would, in fact.
So - are you still pushing the incorrectly arranged cardboard New York angle?
It's a yes or no question.
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| Killtown wrote: | | Sorry, I don't respond to trolls. |
Seems to me that you mean you don't answer awkward questions, in which case better stick to your killtown's komedy kult forum.
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| chek wrote: | | Killtown wrote: | | Sorry, I don't respond to trolls. |
Seems to me that you mean you don't answer awkward questions, in which case better stick to your killtown's komedy kult forum.
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This forum has no credibility because the admins here allow the above kinds of trash to pollute this forum.
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| Killtown wrote: | | chek wrote: | | Killtown wrote: | | Sorry, I don't respond to trolls. |
Seems to me that you mean you don't answer awkward questions, in which case better stick to your killtown's komedy kult forum.
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This forum has no credibility because the admins here allow the above kinds of trash to pollute this forum. |
Actually, it is you Killtown who lost all credibility when you began presenting your speculations as if they were fact.
They're not, and your speculations are alarmingly ill informed.
Your komedy kult forum label is particularly well deserved.
A perfect example for reference would be to compare the wake turbulance threads that were all discussed (at the instigation of you ...er... "researchers" on this board, Pilots for Truth and 911M. You have to laugh when the most abject, unresearched rubbish is praised as 'good science' on 911M, which actually happened recently.
You're also aware, I take it, that one definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over yet expecting different results? What forum pattern does that fit?
The current flap over airliner max speeds is particularly amusing in the way expert opinion gets turned on its head to fit the chimps' world view.
Some of your stalwarts - having a nugget of fact but no context in which to make use of it - are confidently braying to the rest of the herd that a Boeing airliner would shake itself to pieces before it had outrun a fabric covered WWII Hawker Hurricane. This is gold, to pinch another phrase.
To use an analogy, it's a chimp's tea party forum, and the first thing considered is if it is that wrong about what we do know, how likely is it that anything said about what we don't know can be correct?
But, it's your forum and, just like life, you get out what you put in. And as you're no doubt finding, once your credibility goes, so does any respect for any of your output.
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| Killtown wrote: | | chek wrote: | | Killtown wrote: | | Sorry, I don't respond to trolls. |
Seems to me that you mean you don't answer awkward questions, in which case better stick to your killtown's komedy kult forum.
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This forum has no credibility because the admins here allow the above kinds of trash to pollute this forum. |
I'm not going to ban chek for believing that you duck difficult questions and because he doesn't believe your analysis of 9/11, any more than I would stop you posting your views including that you believe chek to be a troll (although both 'sides' should moderate their language).
Which begs the question why do you post here if you believe it has no credibility? |
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| ian neal wrote: | 1) I'm not going to ban chek for believing that you duck difficult questions
2) and because he doesn't believe your analysis of 9/11,
3) any more than I would stop you posting your views including that you believe chek to be a troll (although both 'sides' should moderate their language).
4) Which begs the question why do you post here if you believe it has no credibility? |
1) I don't duck difficult questions, I just don't respond to trolls anymore.
2) When/where have I ever asked someone to be banned for not believing any of my analysis' of 9/11???
3) Funny how the trolls attack, attack, attack, and I complain to the admin like they request, the admin don't do anything, I fight back against the attacking trolls, then the admin tell ME to watch my language.
4) Think of me an a religious crusader, I go where the sin is.
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| Killtown wrote: | | 1) I don't duck difficult questions, I just don't respond to trolls anymore. |
Troll= Just asking questions
| Killtown wrote: | | 2) When/where have I ever asked someone to be banned for not believing any of my analysis' of 9/11??? |
Troll= hey! stop asking difficult questions.
Admin! Admin! Save me!
| Killtown wrote: | | 3) Funny how the trolls attack, attack, attack, and I complain to the admin like they request, the admin don't do anything, I fight back against the attacking trolls, then the admin tell ME to watch my language. |
attack = asking difficult questions you'd rather not answer.
So try answering them.
| Killtown wrote: | | 4) Think of me an a religious crusader, I go where the sin is. |
You're certainly out of touch with reality enough to actually believe that.
Thank you for making such a spectacle of yourself and showing everybody what a pompous, deluded, weasel you are KT.
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Still waiting for somebody to tell me which part of the Rector St building that is if it's part of the Rector St building.
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And we're still waiting for you to admit you're still pursuing Fred the Fraud's cardboard NYC fantasy.
You seem oddly reluctant to do so - and yet what other reason would your odd little unprovable quest have?
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| chek wrote: | And we're still waiting for you to admit you're still pursuing Fred the Fraud's cardboard NYC fantasy.
You seem oddly reluctant to do so - and yet what other reason would your odd little unprovable quest have? |
Maybe Killtown is trying to convince himself that his pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey little blue lines mean something?
Its funny that Fred used the superimposing of a still from the herzekhani video over a faked photo to try and prove the genuine footage fake, but here killtown is trying to draw lines where he gueses something must be through the trees on the genuine footage and suggest they don't match the post 9/11 faked up still and thus can't be right, even though he doesnt show what the post 9/11 fake image is suggesting should be seen!
Oh its "special reasoning" alright, but the reason the poor guy can't see it "matching up with reality" is he doesnt understand why his grasp on reality is so flimsy in the first place
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It's a shame the admin here are continuing to let the credibility of their forum go down hill by continuing to let trolls like Chek and John White do nothing but insult other members on here.
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| Killtown wrote: | | It's a shame the admin here are continuing to let the credibility of their forum go down hill by continuing to let trolls like Chek and John White do nothing but insult other members on here. |
Well, for the record, I think it's a shame that you act like an evasive credibility-lite weasel and insult my intelligence and the intelligence of those other members here, but I don't go crying to admin every two seconds about it.
I just let you show yourself for what you are.
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| Killtown wrote: | | Still waiting for somebody to tell me which part of the Rector St building that is if it's part of the Rector St building. |
and we're all waiting for you to stop flogging this dead horse....
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| Killtown wrote: | | gruts wrote: | | Killtown wrote: | | Still waiting for somebody to tell me which part of the Rector St building that is if it's part of the Rector St building. |
and we're all waiting for you to stop flogging this dead horse....
http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=1386 |
Why is a "dead horse," because the trolls on here say so? |
So anyway, Killtown, it really looks like you are still shilling for BSFred's badly arranged Manhattan notion.
Why is that?
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| Killtown wrote: | | gruts wrote: | | Killtown wrote: | | Still waiting for somebody to tell me which part of the Rector St building that is if it's part of the Rector St building. |
and we're all waiting for you to stop flogging this dead horse....
http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=1386 |
Why is a "dead horse," because the trolls on here say so? |
lol - if you're really determined to be the last person on earth to realise that fred's "research" is about as much use as a fart in a spacesuit, be my guest.... |
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lol - if you're really determined to be the last person on earth to realise that fred's "research" is about as much use as a fart in a spacesuit, be my guest.... |
If it's so laughable, then why haven't any of you laughers been able to tell me which part of the Rector St building that corner seen in the Hez video is?
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