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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reason for 9/11 Afghan Opium? Reply with quote

Although indisputably 9/11 was a pretext for a planned invasion of Afghanistan, I personally am not entirely convinced the reasons for the invasion was oil as appears to be the general opinion among 9/11 conspiracy theorists. There are many other states in Southern Asia which are richer still in oil and just as obliging when it comes to building oil and gas pipelines.

In my opinion the real reason for invading Afghanistan was that the country happens to be the world's single biggest producer of opium, currently producing 93% of the stuff. In fact it would seem the country can produce little else and is almost entirely dependant on the crop. In 2000 the Taliban officially banned opium cultivation and by the following year, 2001, the eradication program was already in full swing. Then 9/11 happened and the US declared war on the Taliban and joined forces with the Northern Alliance who had continued growing opium despite the ban. Indeed elsewhere in Afghanistan as soon as the US had begun dropping their bombs farmers pulled up their crops of cauliflowers to plant opium poppies instead.

Indeed it is being reported that opium is now being grown in southern Iraq along the Euphrates. Although the shift from rice to opium is described as ‘still in the early stages’ there are fears the country could become a ‘new Afghanistan’. Vicious armed gangs are supporting this cultivation.

A number of authors have demonstrated a clear link between wars fought by the US and the interests of the international drugs trade. For example Alfred W. McCoy, "The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade" and Peter Dale Scott, "Drugs, Oil and War". The war in Vietnam would appear to have directly led to the founding of the 'Golden Triangle'. The time-line is quite straight forward. The communists ban opium production in China in 1950 having previously been the world's single biggest producer of opium. As early as 1951 the CIA begin supporting the Nationalist Chinese, the Kuomintang, who are camped out in Burma and who are almost entirely reliant on opium production to support their armed struggle against communism. The areas settled by the Kuomintang in Burma, Thailand and Laos would later become known as the 'Golden Triangle'. In fact the war against communism in the far east would appear to have been little more than a war against those who would seek to ban opium production. In fact the World Anti-Communist League (formerly the Asian People’s Anti-Communist League) was almost entirely funded by drugs money.

It has long been alleged that US politics is rife with corruption resulting from the illegal drugs trade, however many of the leading banks in both the US and UK were founded on the enormous profits resulting from the drugs trade when it was legal. Has a once legal trade simply gone underground or have gangsters taken over the US government?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indisputably!!!!!!!!!!

For a supposed reader of history you seem unaware of the impending global fascist state.

The control of energy reserves and opium are only a part of the big picture.

I take it you have not heard of the new world order as mentioned by Paul Warburg,Bush senior,or Blairs speech of "rearranging the ME while the pieces are still in flux,before they resettle for the new order in the world"?
I paraphrased Blair (almost word for word though) but no guessing what he was driving at.

Do you think the North American Union,and the European Union in secret without a vote of the people,are due to the opium business.

Have you noticed any reduction in civil liberties in western societies, with camera's everywhere and the proposed dna databases,the mortgage trap and out of control immigration,do you think that is entirely due to the opium business?

What say you of the Global warming climate chaos bullsh!t scenario, is this due to the opium trading?

Then there Iraq, what do you say the reason for the intentional continuos
destabilisation,and the permanent air bases are for what exactly?

What are your indisputable answers?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greg, thanks for your thoughts. Not sure why Newspeak comes over so frantic though...

A thorough study of the origin of the Skull & Bones Club lends credence to your thoughts. It was founded by an opium baron called Russell - its' basis is Satanism. Its aim is total dominion over everything; it has almost succeeded. It is classic psychopathy at its worst.

Need I say more?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply to Newspeak Reply with quote

In reply to Newspeak's objections for such a big job as 9/11 there had to be some spectacular aim in mind. I would find it difficult to believe that the sole aim was mass brainwashing or the further erosion of our civil liberties. What happened on 9/11 clearly had to be seen as an act of war upon the United States of America and the enemy responsible for the deed was based in Afghanistan, namely al-Qaeda. The two things therefore, the events on 9/11 itself and the war in Afghanistan, go together like a hand and glove.

A previous upset to the global heroin/opium trade could well have led to another extremely significant event in the history of the United States of America, the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Many have observed, including Lyndon Johnson, that Kennedy was killed some three weeks to the day after the assassination of President Diem of South Vietnam, and Kennedy is said to have played a leading role in setting up the coup which removed Diem from power. The government of South Vietnam at the time was extremely corrupt and the regime was partly funding itself on the illicit drugs trade. Opiates from the Golden Triangle made their way by air courtesy of airlines run by the Corsican mafia, and then shipped from Saigon to Marseille where they were then processed into heroin and shipped to New York. The port of Marseille was also run by the Corsican mafia (the notorious ‘French Connection’) and their trade would appear to have been largely protected by the French government of the time as reward for ‘services rendered’ against French Algerian rebels. Indeed many SDECE (French intelligence) operatives became entangled in the international drugs trade.

The American mafia hated both the Kennedy brothers as they were waging what appeared to be an all out war against organised crime. The overthrow of Diem and the disruption caused to the world’s heroin supply would appear to have been the last straw that broke the proverbial camel’s back. A full account of the story can be found in Brad O’Leary and L. E. Seymour’s “Triangle of Death” which is highly recommended reading.

One subject O’Leary and Seymour omit to cover in their book however is that the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy, which took place on the 6 June 1968, was preceded by another significant happening in South Vietnam. Some four days before his assassination during the Tet offensive on 2 June 1968, a United States helicopter accidentally opened fire on a building in which leading members of the regime of Nguyen Cao Ky, a successor of Diem, were meeting. Many were killed outright or seriously maimed and this event proved significantly advantageous for Ky’s main rival General Nguyen Van Thieu who was eventually to take over from Ky.

As with the death of John F. Kennedy there are also similarly suspicious circumstances surrounding the death of Robert F. Kennedy which again point to a mob hit. Sirhan Sirhan, the Palestinian émigré said to have carried out the shooting in front of dozens of witnesses, was standing directly in front of RFK at the time and several feet away. However all the shots which hit RFK entered his right side, one at the close range of less than 2.5 centimetres (judging by the scorch marks) behind his right ear. Stood behind RFK immediately to his right was an armed police officer. Some conspiracy researchers have claimed that it was this last figure who fired the fatal shots and that Sirhan had missed his target altogether. Another case of triangulation fire as with JFK on Dealey Plaza?

All the evidence points to triangulation fire being used on 22 November 1963 at Dallas in the case of JFK. Its extremely difficult to hit a moving target from a distance as the speed of a bullet is always finite. Viewing tracer fire at night from a distance clearly reveals this. And besides Oswald’s telescopic sights were out of line on his outdated rifle which was not designed to take such sights anyway and would have been put significantly out of line every time he drew the bolt to reload. Indeed all the evidence points to a mob hit as the Warren Commission was a sham and many witnesses appear to have been conveniently bumped off to silence them.

In summary therefore the international drugs trade generates billions each year and all that money has to be laundered somehow or other and at least some of it is used to bribe officials in order to protect the trade. Of course money like this could also be used to fund the assassination of presidents, the felling of skyscrapers and the necessary cover-ups which follow.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know quite a few Afghans.
Opium production is at record levels and is by conservative estimates accounting for $20 Billion a year in exports for Afghanistan. They are the number one exporter/producer in the world an the influx of this $20 Billion has lead to a property boom, whereby prices in Kabul are the same as prices in London.
There are whole towns and clans who are dependant on the heroin trade and growers and producers ahve military guards and pay protection to the armed forces and local politicians.
as you can guess that $20 Billion has a trickle down effect but as always there is an elite which is made up of the President and his brother who are making the most money for themselves. And their money goes back to the good old USA for reinvestment.

Oil was one reason, gas was another $20 Billion is cash selling opium was another but there were more reasons still.
Uranium, gold, emeralds, and rare aincient artifacts.
Afghanistan has the largest deposits of emeralds in the world. It has plenty of high grade Uranium and Gold.
Dont forget the russians were there too and they wanted that stuff as well but historically everyone has been after the same things
why do you think the US was blasting caves in the Tora Bora mountains?
Do you think they were passing through rich seams of emerald looking for Osama Bin ladin. Or were they filling their boots>

A town called Paktia in Afghanistan near to the Helmand province was bought lock, stock and barrell by the Brits recently for $7million.
Good deal you might think.
considering the town was sitting on a rich deposit of gold and aincient artifacts over 2000 years old. One could argue that any one of those artifacts may have fetched $7million on the open market.
The locals were happy with the money and promptly exchanged cash for Misubishi Shoguns and Pajeros.

It is almost like the white man exchanging whisky for gold in the old wild west.
Artifacts include ivory statues from the days of Alexander the Greek and Roman, Chinese and Indian art from over 2000 years ago. Much of it priceless and buried in underground tombs and caves.
The town was levelled and the booty excavated and removed. You might see some of it one day in the British museum.


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Every day large container loads of food arrive into Baghram base to resupply the American troops. As you know American troops never eat local food always prefering their own peanut butter cups and Saltines passover wafers.
However what may not have been widely known is that those 'empty' containers do not go back to Uncle Sam empty.

You might think that these containers are full of heroin, but that would be too obvious. They are actually going back full of metals and minerals such as rare earths, emeralds, rodium, uranium, etc.
The real reason why the US action has been concentrated in the Tor Bora region and the Bagram region is because Afghanistan was sitiing on rich deposits of several valuable and rare commodities which are being ruthlessly excavated and removed without a penny in compensation tot he government.
The government dont really mind because Hamid Kharzai is the biggest heroin exporter of all and is funnelling away billions every month.

This occupation is basically the systematic rape of a country and it's people. Looting a countries resources and wealth and heritage

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bush ripped on heroin trade
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Poppy production has expanded wildly since Hamid Karzai's government took control in 2002. Last year, Afghan farmers produced 6,100 metric tons of opium, while farmers throughout the rest of the world cumulatively harvested 510 metric tons. Ten years ago, Afghanistan produced 2,248 metric tons of poppies.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20070912/NATION/109120057/1002

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whole article at:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,2167133,00.html

Julian Borger on 'State of the Future survey by the World Federation of United Nations Associations'
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"The implications the world has to understand is that government decisions can be bought and sold," Jerome Glenn, head of the association's millennium project and one of the report's authors said. "What happens if organised crime decides that instead of buying and selling cocaine or heroin, it's going to buy and sell government decisions? That's a threat to democracy."

Contrary to the stereotype of the banana republic, only a minority of the political bribes paid each year goes to public officials in the developing world. The report published this week finds "the vast majority of bribes are paid to people in richer countries" where decision taking is "vulnerable to vast amounts of money".

Much of the income, more than $520bn, that flows through the world's black economy comes from counterfeiting and piracy. The drug trade is the second biggest earner, with an estimated $320bn in takings. Human trafficking is a small industry by comparison, worth under $44bn but arguably the most pernicious. According to the UN, up to 27 million people are now held in slavery, far more than at the peak of the African slave trade. The majority of the victims this time are Asian women.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't care anymore,aparrently all this bullsh!t is just down to oil,gas,antiques and precious stones.All the stuff re the new world order
and civil liberties is just a smokescreen for the thieves.

Oh and opium production (silly me I always forget something or other)
not forgetting the slave trade too!

Phew that's a relief!

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