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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:42 pm    Post subject: Are we all crackpots, or is this valid. Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What? do you believe the '9/11 gospel according to Zelikow then? if that were 'kosher' the falsely accused would have sued the leading 911 truthers for defamation long ago!!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Are we all crackpots, or is this valid. Reply with quote

deep thinker wrote:
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Can we prove ( for starters) that it was a controlled demolition?no........
..... How about some hard facts.backed up with video proof? how about that!
........can someone not please get their * together is that too hard for u lot ? ....... Don't just post a vid without an explaination, back it up Exclamation



Hello 'deep thinker'.

Can we prove that it was a controlled demolition?

Um, yes.

Go to Google video and watch '911 Mysteries' and, if you can understand the fairly straightforward arguments, go to 'scholars for 911 Truth' and look at the presentations considering the Laws of Conservation of Momentum and Conservation of Energy as applied to the collapses.

This is proof if the rest of the evidence is not enough for you.

And frankly, no.....it is not too hard for me(or us).....but I can't be bothered wasting my time explaining something to a person who addresses me (and the rest of us) as if we are idiots.

The information is easy to find.

EASY.

Start at this site's front page if you want. Get informed by doing your own studying and then, if you have any intelligent questions or comments to offer, please come back and put them to us.......without the attitude and bull***t.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'deep thinker' - most here have indeed thunk deep. Most here have indeed locally archived all the 'facts' of 9/11.

My personal opinion? We have all we need to start a case at Brussels or Strasbourg. Just the Rumsfeld comment of 'missile' coupled with Norman Mineta's testimony is sufficient to make a case.

Yet start Nuremburg 2, and the central bankers will not only sulk, they will squeam! For they are the authors of the world's misery.

I think Chris Floyd over at Empire Burlesque summed it up best. Start a case and the exposure of corruption would cause the world as it is to collapse.

Yeah, yipee! BUT it just ain't going to happen unless WE ALL make it happen. It cannot happen within the law, because the bankers own the law.

Dilemma? Yes, but it does not have to go the Myanmar route or the French Revolution route. Offer these sad psychopaths forgiveness and a confined life of 'slightly reduced luxury' in return for immunity for all they have destroyed coupled with a large 'material assurance' that they will no longer influence the world. They could provide everyone on Earth with at least £100,000 and still live comfortably. Yeah, sure, pipe-dream ;-)

It will take a million or two steadfast people acting independently in each country to pay an 'extended visit' to the previously, diligently identified 'key tyrants' to make this happen however - then there's their tazer mob to quell...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:34 pm    Post subject: 9/11 proof Reply with quote

Should anyone need further proof that 9/11 was an inside job, go to www.whatreallyhappened.com, and then scroll down to "9/11: should the truth be revealed or concealed.?" (It is down a bit) It consists of a lecture given by Dr David Ray Griffin in Norway earlier this year, that presents a strongly and IMO unanswerable case for the above assertion. I defy anyone to present a case supporting the OCT (Official Conspiracy Theory), because don't forget folks, the offical version IS a conspiracy theory, n'est-ce pas?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thermate911 wrote:
Start a case and the exposure of corruption would cause the world as it is to collapse.

Yeah, yipee! BUT it just ain't going to happen unless WE ALL make it happen. It cannot happen within the law, because the bankers own the law.


Correct IMO. 'It' cannot happen within the law as we know it. 'It' will only happen when collectively we articulate what 'it' is. We have to join the dots. We need know that yes, '9/11 was an inside job', but we need to know the story beyond that.

The history of power, of slavery, of money, of 'isms' and realise (as I know most here do) that this is a story that didn't start on 9/11 and doesn't start and finish with Bush. 9/11 is merely a chapter in long and brutal story of oppression and brave and proud history of resistence by ordinary people.

The '9/11 truth movement' needs to reckonise that it is a pivotal part in a global peace and justice movement. 'It' is a world where we say enough. End bs. End war. End poverty. Of course this has been said before. Individual countries have their revolutions (usually under the careful gaze of the PTB). But this is different.

As I have said before, this looks like an end game. The final roll of the dice of generations of oppressors all bonded together by their common lust for power. Their phoney war is global. Their 'economics' is global. Their 'media' is global. They may squabble between themselves but they all agree on their New World Order game

Our response to their wickedness should be clear. Study their oppression and know that it is global, it is age old and it is systemic. Know that the oppressors come in many guises regardless of religion or ism or race or nationality. And then know that the only way that they (the powers that be, the people of extreme power, influence and wealth, the dictators, the front men, the fascists, the klan, the nazis, the bushes, the kissingers of this world .... ) get away with it and have gotten away with it for so long is that

1) humanity collectively is blind and in denial over their wickedness and our collective history

2) humanity collectively believes itself to be powerless and that the war and poverty of this world is inevitable.

bs. Wars and poverty are created by them and there is more than enough in this world. Fact. Humanity collectively needs to wake up, grow up (stop denying what is staring us in the face), realise that without our apathy and compliance, without our labour, taxes and votes, their power is nothing and then peacefully and joyously remove the power from the psychos. Where we, humanity, go from there is for us to collectively to determine. We are love and potential unlimited but let us never fall for 'their' games and lies again. And let the words of Lennon (Imagine) and Brian (PBUH) guide us
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the post BTW

A few people really do need to not only Bookmark this link :
http://www.journalof911studies.com/

Actually read the papers . . .

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

deep thinker is correct to question what evidence is valid concerning the crime at wtc 1&2

is the thermite evidence good enough?
what do witness accounts of molten steel actually prove?
can it be proved that the freefall collapses are due to explosives?
is there an 'illuminate' etc etc

what about tv fakery evidence?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does deep thinker believe OBL morphed into a 40lb heavier afro carribean in his '9/11confession home video' because they 'played the afghan format tape on a US video machine'???

deep thinker=ironic name?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heartening post Ian.

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humanity collectively believes itself to be powerless


Neat trick, wasn't it? They must have taken 'we can fool most of the people most of the time' totally to heart.

I'm 'with' David and the spiritual path... ;-)
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