No Planes Theory takes hold on David Icke Forum

[John White]

Yeah, lets not let Science spoil a good fantasy!

[chek]

[kc]

[gruts]

[ian neal]

In terms of getting to the bottom of TV fakery and no plane theories, I would love to see some analysis from film/video/SFX industry professionals

[Killtown]

[Killtown]

[marky 54]

One popular trolling strategy is the practice of Winning by Losing. While the victim is trying to put forward solid and convincing facts to prove his position, the troll's only goal is to infuriate its prey. The troll takes (what it knows to be) a badly flawed, wholly illogical argument, and then vigorously defends it while mocking and insulting its prey.

The troll looks like a complete fool, but this is all part of the plan. The victim becomes noticeably angry by trying to repeatedly explain the flaws of the troll's argument.

Provoking this anger was the troll's one and only goal from the very beginning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

it is my opinon that you continue to avoid giving evidence or attempt to answer peoples questions inorder to anger them, then when they get angry and let of a bit of frustration you run to mods calling for bans.

so when exactly can you provide the evidence of the plane parts being planted? you seem to avoid it altogether whilst defending it and pleaing to mods your a victim.

here are the plane parts in question.

http://www.wtcdebris.0catch.com/

please provide evidence of them being planted instead of avoiding it.

i am more than willing to accept they were planted if you can provided more than just your word for it.

surely there must be witnesses to them planting parts in busy streets?

unless you think people can carry heavy jet engines under their coats, and then drop it down when no one is looking?

also ill just point out that engines and landing gear in roads hapers the attempts of rescue workers, so untill we all know more there is nothing that says these parts were not moved to the sidewalk and in some cases near/under scaffolding to keep roads clear for emergancy transport.

so using plane parts being under the scaffolding as an arguement is not very convincing and is not very hard to explain with some logical thinking.

so im looking for something more than that, that suggests the parts were planted.

[Newspeak International]

[Killtown]

[marky 54]

where has any legit no-planer provided evidence to the assumption plane parts were planted?

i have to accept that your continued avoidance to do so means you have no evidence of plane parts being planted and you are making things up.

or is this you tactic of frustrating and annoying posters by making claims then ignoring or avoiding any post which asks for the evidence?

then of you go to the mods when someone has a go at you due to that frustration because you avoid proving your case and answering any evidence based questions, even though you defend it and continue to promote it as fact.

ive seen this tactic used a lot by your sort, by the NPT/TV Fakery and energy weapons camps.

those serious about evidence end up getting frustrated because you avoid at every turn anything that might go against it or you don't have evidence for or the honesty to admit you have no evidence for.

let me guess the reply will be:? "mods they are picking on us" "they won't allow proper research that we cannot provide evidence for" "ban them" "demote them" "do anything" "we cannot have them asking questions we cannot answer or provided evidence for" " they are wrecking our bull****".

"yes its that marky, chek and john white" etc, "they keep telling it like it is and asking questions, truth is the enemy of lies and we cannot have it"

BLAH, BLAH....

tactic of ignore, promote. ignore, promote. ignore, promote. avoid, promote. avoid, promote.

then you wonder why people get pi** o** at you and others. i cannot imagine why

maybe some people have just fooled themselves into thinking this is all about truth, and then took it upon themselves to question things that don't ring true, or ask for evidence to prove certain claims to be truth, i cannot imgaine where they got that impression from its clearly not how things work in NPT/TVfakery energy weapons land, unless you believed it from the outset.

KILLTOWN: there were no planes

NPT BELIEVER: what about the plane parts in the street boss?

KILLTOWN: they were planted

NPT BELIEVER: ah, of course boss why did'nt i think of that one, anything you say my godness must be true.

[John White]

[Killtown]

It is such a shame that the admin has allowed this forum to be overran with trolls.

[marky 54]

[gruts]

[ian neal]

[chek]

[John White]

[Killtown]

[chek]

[marky 54]

[TmcMistress]

[gruts]

[chek]

[Bryan]

[Newspeak International]

Interesting.

Bryan,that link is not working have you another?

cheers

[chek]

[Bryan]

The link's back up now:

http://wtcmodel.wikidot.com/structural-data-wtc-1-2

[Indubitably]

During 'maintenance' work carried out at the WTC during the weeks prior to 9/11/2001 criminals who inflitrated these towers surely planted explosives in many parts of the twin towers. Each of these plants had a special job to do. In the case of the great 'gash' we see in the South Tower (the one that looks as if it was created by a 'plane' and its wings) this was most probably made by design by a small amount of explosives being planted near the sheathing of the building in a pattern designed to blow away the bolts holding chosen sections of the sheathing - thus creating what SEEMS to be evidence of a plane and its wings having entered the building. This destruction of the sheathing by small charges must have occurred at the same time as the fireball was created. The fakery also included (as we see clearly on video tape) the use of smoke to create the false impression of massive fires. The 'gash' was therefore an area that must have been temporarily covered over by these bogus 'maintenance staff' using boards which they attached to the walls of those offices on those floors and would hardly have been noticed by workers in those offices on their return. To all appearances the offices would have looked normal on that tragic day. But, in fact, the great gash was primed waiting to be created.

Not a single person survived from floors of any tower from which 'jumpers' jumped. This strongly suggests doors to those floors were locked shortly after the gash was created. There was no escape. Why else would a person try to climb down the side of a tower block such as WTC (hundreds of feet above ground level) unless they had no other option ? These 'jumpers' jumped because they were being pursued by some very real and immediate threat to their individual lives on those floors. And that threat was definitely NOT great heat, since we see clearly survivors temporarily stood at the great 'gash' before the tower collapsed. Nor were the glass windows of these floors melted by great heat. This again proves beyond doubt that the cause of the jumpers jumping to their deaths WAS an immediate threat to their lives (whether from gas or some other deadly source) - a threat that existed on floors that had already been locked so they could not escape. Had a single one of these people on those floors managed to survive they would have confirmed that -

1. No plane entered either tower of the WTC
2. The exits on the floors of these 'jumpers' had been blocked/locked
3. Their colleagues were being killed at the time when such a hypothetical survivor was forced to jump from the building

Such a survivor would also have been able to tell us whether, in fact, missiles were fired or not from the Woolworth Building (as many police and other reports of that day suggest).

It is highly significant that, to this day, transcripts of telephone calls FROM WTC on 9/11/2001 that followed the supposed 'plane' strikes are STILL BEING KEPT FROM PUBLIC ACCESS with the exception of a few faked examples which give the false impression of great heat on those floors.

[TmcMistress]