One for the 'no planers'

[GodSaveTheTeam]

Greets again to all. Been offline for ages. Back on now. Apologies if this has already been discussed. But take a look at the Evan Fairbanks footage. Look at the bottom of the screen at 37secs. Does this prove it once and for all?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UUDxZS-RSfw

I'm not a no planer by the way.

Just thought this may put an end to it all.

Yeah right. Whom I trying to fool?

[fish5133]

I am not convinced of the no plane theory ( which on the face of it seems ridiculous) although this footage does just seem to show the plane melting/slicing into the building with no debris shearing off.. Could an aluminium body actually do this against the big steel external framework?

As the reflection of the plane can be seen in something lower down would this dispel the hologram idea? Can a hologram have a reflection?

[paul wright]

The guy, an agent, only responds to the event belatedly. With the hit. Not before when an awful roar of the plane ought to have been apparent

[GodSaveTheTeam]

Aye awreet...

Hey maybe the so called agent is part of the hologram. . .

The fact is that the north tower has already been hit. The noise of sirens, people screaming, car horns chaotic responses all around would mean the noise of the aircraft would not be easily heard.

Also, deep under the massive surrounding buildings, noise would not reach the onlooker as quickly as in open spaces.

[GazeboflossUK]

[Wokeman]

Yes, he was probably an agent of the FBI. Nothing sinister in that, after all that took place that day!

[paul wright]

It was Rosalee, the Webfairy, that first described him as an agent. I haven't checked back, but presume there was some evidence.
Looking back on this clip, it is true that his reaction time to this event would seem extraordinarily slow. It's not the hit he responds to even, it's the explosions. This ought to have been a terrific noise this very low-flying jet and then the interaction of aluminium at high velocity ripping out concrete and steel, and the human autonomic nervous system ordinarily responds in microseconds to threatening stimuli, yet this person doesn't respond until explosive plumes are emerging from the building and the jet is already submerged. Doesn't prove anything but an interesting observation

PS the Wytruth site has been overhauled and imo looks smarter. Please click the link.
Thanx Ants. Terrific work

[chek]

[John White]

[Andrew Johnson]

Yes it has been discussed before. Good old Evan. He even tells us the truth in his last few words of the clip.

And, hey - that delayed fireball is STILL there!!


Link


Oh - and it's the lack of planes that is being used to sue NIST - but quite a few people don't like to talk about that...

http://www.prleap.com/pr/92756/

Picked up by the CRE

http://www.thecre.com/quality/2007/20070909_quality.html

"BUT WHAT ABOUT THE WITNESSES!!!! STUPID!!"

http://www.checktheevidence.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task= view&id=134&Itemid=60


(Quite a few anonymous posters (again) on this thread.... - What's up - afraid of the truth? Sorry, I know it doesn't apply in all cases, but stilll...)

[my left bollock]

Yes this is conclusive proof of a cartoon plane.

I would bet my right bollock on it

[gruts]

are you andrew's new cheerleader prole? what happened to mason free party?

[chek]

[gruts]

[Killtown]

[John White]

"Hologram Theory Dead!" declares NPT Guru Killtown in exclusive Scoop Shocka

[marky 54]

"the other plane crash in your video shows a completely different plane travelling at a much slower speed and hitting a power line, the sparks from which ignite the fuel prior to the plane hitting the ground."


that is not the first time it has been pointed out, and to the same person,
obviously some people want to ignore what is obvious to those who look.

we will proberbly see it being used again as an example in a few more months aswell by the same people who get told over and over the samething but either fail to address it or drop the example.

[marky 54]

heres what happens when you remove the power cables, im seeing a 'delayed' fire here, it must be fake there was no plane , any one else seeing it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-_VzxTiUps

[marky 54]

here is the longer version of the B52 bomber which shows very very clearly what has been explained above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E21byPXR1ek&mode=related&search=

so why do people who consider themselves scientific researchers still use it as an example?

it dos'nt seem very scientific to me.

[marky 54]

sorry forgot to mention the petrol bomb example in the clip andrew jonhson linked.

now i understand it must be compelling and indepth research which takes time and effort to find examples that match the towers, so please don't let anything i say take away the effort put in to proving 'delayed fireballs' are strange.

but i agree that the petrol bomb does indeed exploded upon impact... this got me thinking very hard(something i don't have a scientific qualification to do) and a whole 5 seconds later after a long hard think i realised the guy throwing the petrol bomb did something to it before throwing it.

now can anyone tell me what he did?

[chek]

[marky 54]

this is clearly some sort of pys-op going of here, EVERY example to prove no planes in this thread has been grossly misreprasented and distorted to fool the viewer into believing it.

[marky 54]

what have we got so far:

a plane cliping power cables causing fuel to ignite before and upon impact(spark provided before impact) as proof the planes hitting the towers should do the same.

a petrol bomb(wrong fuel but nevermind) which is set on fire before impact (fire provided before impact) as proof the planes hitting the towers should do the same.

a bird in what was claimed to be a plane wing, which turns out to be a much weaker tail fin.

from these lies and disortions we must all believe NPT.

its laughable, especially the petrol bomb example, i mean he actually blasted lights it, he adds the god damn fire before throwing it

[TmcMistress]

Gods, that's like that episode of Mythbusters when they were firing frozen chickens through plane windshields..

[gruts]

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[jfk]

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[marky 54]

"I wonder if killtown's picture was cropped deliberately to make it look like it could be the wing, albeit of a much smaller plane?"

http://killtown.911review.org/2nd-hit.html#bird_strikes

if you scroll down you'll find the images on the link killtown provided, if he had not provided the link then i'd think he was misleading people on purpose.

however why he only provided the angle that suited the "plane wing" claim when he could of provided both picture to make clear it was the tail section, only he will know.

also why he would claim it was a "plane wing" when obviously he has the other angle in his image shack to know it was a tail section is also puzzling
which again is something he will only know, but that will not stop people drawing their own conclusions, which is why its important to get facts correct and admit when you got it wrong.

but i aint to confident any NPT'er will turn up and admit it, truth aint their game.

[gruts]