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Indubitably 9/11 Truth critic
Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 264
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:58 pm Post subject: The Next Big Area of 9/11 Discovery ? |
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What do Members here think might be the next big area of discovery that will challenge the 'official version' ? |
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chek Mega Poster
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:49 am Post subject: |
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That No Plane Theory and Media fakery were all a big con straight out of Langley, and that the 'whodunnit' is more important than the 'howdunnit'. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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Indubitably 9/11 Truth critic
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:33 am Post subject: |
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I was about to suggest the next BIG discovery is for the world to see WHO really runs the 9/11 'truth movement' (so-called) - seeing that it cannot even admit to WHOLESALE fakery of evidence on 9/11/2001 by the major media corporations.
It is no coincidence, of course, that 9/11 research is now dominated by this issue of the video record and what it contains (or does not contain). Just look at recent threads here to see the truth of that. |
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 3140 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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You mean there is an evil mastermind sitting in his island hideaway stroking a white cat running the whole show.
When you track him down do let me know because I have yet to hear from 'central office'.
Tell me have his evil henchmen infiltrated 911researchers.com and similar sites.
After all it would fit with their modus operadi of infiltrating both 'sides' and setting them off against each other: opposames, divide and rule, I'm sure you are familiar with their ways.
If they have failed to infiltrate the researchers community you must let me know your secret. What criteria do you apply to weed out the spooks and agents that must inevitably try to infiltrate the 'real 9/11 truth movement'? |
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Indubitably 9/11 Truth critic
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Ian Neil asks -
What criteria do you apply to weed out the spooks and agents that must inevitably try to infiltrate the 'real 9/11 truth movement'?
In reply -
1. Yes it IS inevitable 'spooks and agents' infiltrate and dominate the 9/11 'truth movement'. And, to a huge extent, they have had free reign to do so over these years since 2001. During these years they've been successful with their strategy of admitting virtually from the outset that '9/11 was an inside job' but have deflected us from detailed appreciation/discussion of the actual video/photographic evidence of 'planes', for example. Why ? Because spooks and agents have their own agenda.
a) To blame those crimes on the entire lawful government of the USA when, in fact, they were committed by men and women who INFLILTRATED high positions within lawful government and within lawful agencies.
b) These spooks want to overthrow government so as to plant their own government.
c) The evidence is clear. The moderators and leaders of the 'truth movement' have at no time in the past 6 years called for a public, open, scrutiny of media images and broadcasts from the crime scene of 9/11/2001 in which supposed 'planes' are portrayed. Until it does so it remains bogus.
The genuine truth movement conducts its activities in the light of day. It calls for accountability in all it does. It encourages expertise of every kind. It settles issues for all to see and it uses scientific method where science can settle the issue. It demands action and accountability in identifying those who were complicit in such crimes. In short, the truth movement is a movement of people who believe light is the best answer to darkness.
2. In pratical terms those who want accountability on settling this issue of 'planes' are with the truth movement while those who rubbish this demand are agents of misinformation. |
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TmcMistress Mind Gamer
Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 392
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:23 am Post subject: |
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Indubitably wrote: |
1. Yes it IS inevitable 'spooks and agents' infiltrate and dominate the 9/11 'truth movement'. |
Because they disagree with you, I'm assuming? _________________ "What about a dance club that only let in deaf people? It would really only need flashing lights, so they'd save a lot of money on music." - Dresden Codak |
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eogz Validated Poster
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Could it not just be a case of plausibility?
TV Fakery, Direct Energy Beams, Holographic Planes = Implausible
Controlled Demolition, False Flag Operations, WTC7 Demolition = Plausible |
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Indubitably 9/11 Truth critic
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:54 am Post subject: |
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TmcMistress,
No, not because they disagree with me. It's because they disagree with science. It's because they discourage a fair, open, public, mathematical and scientific scrutiny of these broadcast 'plane' images and have always done so. It's because they are still doing so. And it's because (as we already see) misinformation is no match for public accountability and truth.
I AND EVERY HONEST PERSON WILL ABIDE BY THE DECISION OF SUCH A PUBLIC FORUM WHERE MATHEMATICS AND SCIENCE ARE AGREED TO BE THE CRUCIAL ISSUES.
The neutral reader must judge whether the 'truth movement' is even interested in establishing truth in respect of the broadcast images of 'planes' at the WTC on 9/11/2001. To date, you see the record.
Judge for yourself. |
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chek Mega Poster
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 3889 Location: North Down, N. Ireland
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Indubitably wrote: | TmcMistress,
No, not because they disagree with me. It's because they disagree with science. It's because they discourage a fair, open, public, mathematical and scientific scrutiny of these broadcast 'plane' images and have always done so. It's because they are still doing so. And it's because (as we already see) misinformation is no match for public accountability and truth.
I AND EVERY HONEST PERSON WILL ABIDE BY THE DECISION OF SUCH A PUBLIC FORUM WHERE MATHEMATICS AND SCIENCE ARE AGREED TO BE THE CRUCIAL ISSUES.
The neutral reader must judge whether the 'truth movement' is even interested in establishing truth in respect of the broadcast images of 'planes' at the WTC on 9/11/2001. To date, you see the record.
Judge for yourself. |
Indub, you talk the (pompous) talk about 'mathematics and science' and then swan off into ridiculous hyperbole that would make an advertising exec cringe.
If you can't do it here, how is your much vaunted 'public forum' going to work out? In case you hadn't noticed this IS a public forum with guaranteed interest from those interested.
Now cut the high flown rhetoric and put up or shut up.
P.S. Will you for God's sake stop posting in BIG ASS CAPS?
It doesn't emphasise - it makes your posts look hysterical (and not in a good way).
Thank you. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
It's the only way.
It's them or us. |
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Indubitably 9/11 Truth critic
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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OK Chek,
Here, without the use of capital letters, is a simple question.
Do you support calls for the mathematical analysis of 'plane' footage from broadcasts made of the events of 9/11/2001 in New York and of examining claims that much of this 'plane' footage has been edited and faked ?
Awaiting your answer
Thank You |
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chek Mega Poster
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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Indubitably wrote: | OK Chek,
Here, without the use of capital letters, is a simple question.
Do you support calls for the mathematical analysis of 'plane' footage from broadcasts made of the events of 9/11/2001 in New York and of examining claims that much of this 'plane' footage has been edited and faked ?
Awaiting your answer
Thank You |
We are examining them.
It can be done quite easily without specialists, authorities, professors or anything.
It isn't rocket science showing September Clueless up for the misleading garbage it is. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
It's the only way.
It's them or us. |
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Indubitably 9/11 Truth critic
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Well Check, you don't support any move for a public hearing on these issues. You think they can already be resolved on forums such as this.
Fine. In that case, can you provide mathematical explanation for the case in question - two televised versions of the erupting of a fireball from the South Tower of the WTC on 9/11/2001 ? These, you say, are able to be reconciled, using mathematics.
We await your mathematical solution right here. |
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chek Mega Poster
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Indubitably wrote: | Well Check, you don't support any move for a public hearing on these issues. You think they can already be resolved on forums such as this. |
You don't need my support to do whatever it is you have in mind.
My only concern is that being such misleading and easily debunked tripe, September Clueless should not in any way be associated with the 911 Truth movement.
Indubitably wrote: | Fine. In that case, can you provide mathematical explanation for the case in question - two televised versions of the erupting of a fireball from the South Tower of the WTC on 9/11/2001 ? These, you say, are able to be reconciled, using mathematics.
We await your mathematical solution right here. |
It'll be over in the other thread actually - I'm not double posting just to accommodate your grandiose 'royal we' pronouncements. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
It's the only way.
It's them or us. |
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Indubitably 9/11 Truth critic
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Well, Chek, nothing grandiose is asked for. Let's see your resolution of this issue, mathematically as you promised. I think we will be waiting a long time for it. |
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PaulStott Relentless Limpet Shill
Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 326 Location: All Power To The People, No More Power To The Pigs
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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Indubitably wrote: | the next BIG discovery is for the world to see WHO really runs the 9/11 'truth movement' (so-called) - |
Be careful what you wish for....... |
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 3140 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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You're surely not going to tell us that it is David and Annie behind the global 9/11 'truth movement'?
Other than David and Annie (obviously) who else within the movement do you believe is an agent of the state or not what they appear to be? |
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PaulStott Relentless Limpet Shill
Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 326 Location: All Power To The People, No More Power To The Pigs
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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ian neal wrote: | You're surely not going to tell us that it is David and Annie behind the global 9/11 'truth movement'?
Other than David and Annie (obviously) who else within the movement do you believe is an agent of the state or not what they appear to be? |
That's what you would be asking yourself if you were a serious parapolitical movement.
Having failed to even ask any questions of David Shayler, you were left with pretty considerable egg on your faces when he scuttled his involvement with you.
Should the official line on Lockerbie collapse (and who has worked harder than David and Annie to maintain it?) surely one or two of you will stop playing on Google Video and do a bit of hard thinking.
You now have a second chance to get it right with Annie. The question is, are you big enough to take it? |
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