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karlos Validated Poster
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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chek wrote: |
Once you understand what the inverse square law is, and how it applies to gravity, no it doesn't. . |
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karlos Validated Poster
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Are you aware that a number of surveys and opinion polls have been conducted in the US regarding the moon landings?
Although the figures range from 6% to 20% who believe the moon landings were faked i believe that as more people re evaluate the evidence and break away from their brainwashing that number will grow.
on 10.09.2007 you could have done an opinion poll about 911 and would have had very few questioning the official story, but today according to the latest opinion poll in the US the number is over half believe the 911 story is a lie.
Moon landings will grow as a topic for discection because it sucked the equivalent of $130 billion out of US taxpayers funds. Money that was probably ferreted away by consiprators or ended up being used for black ops in Vietnam. To me it is blatantly obvious that the moon landings were faked and hopefully more people wake up to the reality and discard their mental chains. I used to be a SCI-FI buff and for me to discover everything was a lie was more heartbreaking than the average punter.
I think the fraudsters should be tried in court for ripping off the american taxpayer. _________________
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chek Mega Poster
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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stelios wrote: | chek wrote: |
Once you understand what the inverse square law is, and how it applies to gravity, no it doesn't. . |
please explain |
The Inverse Square law states that with a radiative point source (light/sound/gravity) the strength will decrease at the inverse square of the distance (due to spread), so that at 2 units the power decreases to a quarter, at three units to a ninth, at four units to a sixteenth etc etc..
In this case, at 1 unit (the Earth's radius 4000 miles approx) we have 1g at the surface, decreasing to 1/4g at twice that distance (8000 miles) to 1/9g at three times the distance (12000 miles), and so on.
So as well as reducing the actual mass of the vehicle by burning fuel, the effective weight is also reducing at an even greater rate as distance increases. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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chek Mega Poster
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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stelios wrote: | Are you aware that a number of surveys and opinion polls have been conducted in the US regarding the moon landings?
Although the figures range from 6% to 20% who believe the moon landings were faked i believe that as more people re evaluate the evidence and break away from their brainwashing that number will grow.
on 10.09.2007 you could have done an opinion poll about 911 and would have had very few questioning the official story, but today according to the latest opinion poll in the US the number is over half believe the 911 story is a lie.
Moon landings will grow as a topic for discection because it sucked the equivalent of $130 billion out of US taxpayers funds. Money that was probably ferreted away by consiprators or ended up being used for black ops in Vietnam. To me it is blatantly obvious that the moon landings were faked and hopefully more people wake up to the reality and discard their mental chains. I used to be a SCI-FI buff and for me to discover everything was a lie was more heartbreaking than the average punter.
I think the fraudsters should be tried in court for ripping off the american taxpayer. |
Well thanks for sharing your beliefs with us, but that's all they are - your beliefs.
And without wishing to appear rude, I have no more interest in them (or anybody else's) than I would have in what brand of soap you use.
There's certainly burger all in the way of evidence to consider. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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karlos Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:45 am Post subject: |
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if you dont want to read other peoples opinions why not play online poker instead?
i happily take in your views, if i disagree i argue
http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/news/2001/news-moonlanding.asp
why do think nasa feel the need to debate?
smacks of insecurity dont you agree?
NASA wrote: | On the Moon, there was no air to stop the flag's motion, so it continued, just as Newton's First Law of physics says it should. |
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NASA wrote: | Actually, it would have been harder to fake the whole thing than to do it! | double * _________________
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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stelios wrote: | if you dont want to read other peoples opinions why not play online poker instead?
i happily take in your views, if i disagree i argue
http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/news/2001/news-moonlanding.asp
why do think nasa feel the need to debate?
smacks of insecurity dont you agree?
NASA wrote: | On the Moon, there was no air to stop the flag's motion, so it continued, just as Newton's First Law of physics says it should. |
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NASA wrote: | Actually, it would have been harder to fake the whole thing than to do it! | double * |
http://www.answers.com/topic/soviet-space-program-conspiracy-accusatio ns
According to the above site the Russians have kept many parts of their space programmes secret.
We are told many more cosmonauts died before Gagarin made his now famous voyage. Also that they used dummies in many missions.
Americans being one step ahead always from the 'invisible' plane (shot down), the M16 (that jams in water), PATRIOT missiles (that miss all incoming missiles), fighter jets that are no match for the Sukhoi etc. always excel in marketing.
Theyve sold the story of the Moonwalk and even turned it into a dance.
You cant beat that now can you? |
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TmcMistress Mind Gamer
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:02 am Post subject: |
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stelios wrote: | if you dont want to read other peoples opinions why not play online poker instead? |
Opinions, much like metaphysics, have proven themselves of little value in this discussion. If all you've got is opinion and not a shred of proof, why should I believe you when you say the moon landings were faked?
Quote: | i happily take in your views, if i disagree i argue |
Hyperbole and purposely uninformed rhetoric do not an effective argument make.
Quote: | why do think nasa feel the need to debate?
smacks of insecurity dont you agree? |
Because they felt the need to counter a nationally televised program? Because they finally hit the snapping point with talk of these theories? Because they wanted to?
(Note: A one-page reply with links does not make them insecure. If anything, it demonstrates how little of a case you've got, stelios.)
NASA wrote: | On the Moon, there was no air to stop the flag's motion, so it continued, just as Newton's First Law of physics says it should. |
Have you actually watched the video of the apollo 11 moon landing? I'm kind of curious, because I have to assume that if you had, you would've noticed that shortly after Buzz Aldrin removes his hands from the flag, it stops moving. Same thing with 15.
Find me one video, ONE VIDEO that shows that flag flapping like there's no tomorrow when no one is touching it. That's all I ask.
chek is right. Surveys mean not a damn thing. _________________ "What about a dance club that only let in deaf people? It would really only need flashing lights, so they'd save a lot of money on music." - Dresden Codak |
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karlos Validated Poster
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Have you read the NASA site?
Next your going to tell me the Bush family have their own family website distancing themselves from Osama bin ladin and daddy Bush distancing himself from the Kennady assasination?
Public opinion in the USA is moving away from blind faith in the moon landings scam and people are waking up to the fact that it is a total lie. NASA is feeling insecure and decided to counter a few obvious flaws. The very fact that they felt the need to do that itself speaks volumes.
TMC one day soon you too will wake up and realise that nobody has ever gone to the moon and your tax dollars have been stolen and spent on either black ops in Vietnam or transfer to prop us Israel.
The flag waving is the least of it.
Why take a flag and flagpole adding extra weight and bulk?
What about the obvious dangers of splitting the spacesuit while in the process of pressing the flagpole in? Howmany bruised thumbs do you remember yourself - i do - many.
What was the flag made of to survive 200 degrees celcius and what was the pole made of to be able to cut through what is moonrock.
You cannot stand a flagpole up in dry moondust it needs to be wedged into something that will support it.
How do you know the moon is not like concrete? After all it is bone dry and baked and frozen every fortnight. _________________
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conspiracy analyst Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Funny story as to why!!
Tape of 1st Moon Landing Missing
Reuters
Tuesday, August 15, 2006; Page A02
The government has misplaced the original recording of the first moon landing, including astronaut Neil Armstrong's famous "one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind," a NASA spokesman said yesterday.
Armstrong's moon walk, seen by millions of television viewers on July 20, 1969, is among the transmissions that NASA has failed to turn up in a year of searching, spokesman Grey Hautaloma said.
"We haven't seen them for quite a while. We've been looking for over a year, and they haven't turned up," Hautaloma said.
The tapes also contain data about the health of the astronauts and the condition of the spacecraft. In all, about 700 boxes of transmissions from the Apollo lunar missions are missing, he said.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...6081400998.html |
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karlos Validated Poster
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:48 am Post subject: |
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how convenient _________________
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conspiracy analyst Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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stelios wrote: | how convenient |
More interesting is the fact that they travelled there and back in 8 days and stayed there for nearly a whole day.
So if as you allege the distance is around 500,000 miles that means they did that many miles in 7 days. Thats around 70,000 miles a day. As there are 24 hrs in a day that would mean a speed of around 3,000 miles an hour.
Did they have this technology back then for this amount of speed.
What is interesting is the following
http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/apollo11/index.html
Quote: | Ticker tape parade for the Hero Astronauts who went on to make a world tour of 25 countries in 35 days. The Apollo program had fulfilled President John F. Kennedy's wish to land a man on the moon before the end of the 1960s - and did it just five months and ten days before the end of the decade. |
This all occurred bang in the middle of an unpopular war.
Coincidence or stage managed event? |
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TmcMistress Mind Gamer
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:01 am Post subject: |
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Coincidence. *gasp* You mean the astronauts went on a world tour after accomplishing one of the most amazing scientific feats of the century? What a shock! _________________ "What about a dance club that only let in deaf people? It would really only need flashing lights, so they'd save a lot of money on music." - Dresden Codak |
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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TmcMistress wrote: | Coincidence. *gasp* You mean the astronauts went on a world tour after accomplishing one of the most amazing scientific feats of the century? What a shock! |
The biggest ticker tape parade occurred after Bush sat on an aircraft carrier and declared Mission Accomplished for the Iraq war.
They did the same in the middle of a grossly unpopular war in Vietnam and during the struggle for civil rights for the blacks.
So as asserted before losing the tapes of the first moon landing at the same time as there is an increase in peoples awareness that maybe the moon landings with humans aren't real is an issue and it cannot simply be a coincidence. How does one lose the tapes? Put them in the wrong draw? There aren't back up copies x50?
Under cover of moon experimentation they were probably doing black ops in Vietnam and the secret invasions which happened at the same time which were covert in Cambodia and Laos. |
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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Was there some investigation planned for this missing data? It has sat around for over three decades, what do we anticipate it would show us now assuming the information wasn't 'rigged' to fall within scientific and medical 'safe-zones'?
I was there a while ago and the explanation for it missing is easy to explain away;
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karlos Validated Poster
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:52 am Post subject: |
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That is a good one mate.
I wonder if Buzz was there handing out right upper cuts to all the visitors? _________________
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TmcMistress Mind Gamer
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:27 am Post subject: |
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conspiracy analyst wrote: | TmcMistress wrote: | Coincidence. *gasp* You mean the astronauts went on a world tour after accomplishing one of the most amazing scientific feats of the century? What a shock! |
The biggest ticker tape parade occurred after Bush sat on an aircraft carrier and declared Mission Accomplished for the Iraq war.
They did the same in the middle of a grossly unpopular war in Vietnam and during the struggle for civil rights for the blacks. |
Actually... (from the wikipedia article)
Quote: | However, the largest ticker tape parade of all, was given for World War II and Korean War General Douglas MacArthur in 1951. |
So, you are wrong. Not to mention, apparently ill-equipped to do anything besides make spurious correlations between parades and events of mass distraction.
Wait, let me guess. WWII didn't actually happen, and the ticker-tape parade was a clever ruse to distract us from all those people not dying.
Quote: | So as asserted before losing the tapes of the first moon landing at the same time as there is an increase in peoples awareness that maybe the moon landings with humans aren't real is an issue and it cannot simply be a coincidence. |
Could you try that again in English, please?
Quote: | Under cover of moon experimentation they were probably doing black ops in Vietnam and the secret invasions which happened at the same time which were covert in Cambodia and Laos. |
Soooo... preperations began during the Kennedy presidency to land on the moon were really a clever pretense for Nixon / Vietnam era hijinks only months after Nixon took office? Those devious b******! Mind you, we didn't even start on Laos until '71, so that makes this even more ingenious. _________________ "What about a dance club that only let in deaf people? It would really only need flashing lights, so they'd save a lot of money on music." - Dresden Codak |
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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According to the New York Times they have an opposite view
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE3DD1438F932A25755C 0A967958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print
Quote: | In the footsteps of Lindbergh, MacArthur, the Apollo astronauts and American legions home from World Wars I and II, some 24,000 marchers -- troops from 17 allied nations that fought in the gulf, plus veterans of other wars and civilian groups -- crossed the Rubicon into history under a deafening tumult of cheering and cascades of confetti and ticker tape.
"It's a great day to be back home in New York," exulted Gen. Colin L. Powell, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who was born in Harlem and raised in the Bronx.
The police estimated that 4.7 million people lined the one-mile route from Battery Park to Worth Street, and they called it the largest crowd for any single event in city history. The count, for all its seeming precision, appeared to be extravagant.
It implied that 235,000 people lined each of the 20 blocks on the route. The police conceded that it was based on a formula using square feet of street space and was a bit like numbering the blades of grass on a hillside. But it was in keeping with the hyperbole of the day.
"This was the mother of all parades," beamed Mayor David N. Dinkins, who had been using the phrase for weeks. |
Now I know you believe the Yanks played a decisive role in WW2 and WW1 but I hate to dissapoint you, they didn't.
400,000 died only in WW2. The actual war was fought between Germany and the ex-Soviet Union.
In Korea again the Americans couldn't beat the Chinese who came out of an illegal occupation, a civil war and revolution and still managed to hold the USA at bay.
In Vietnam. Well quit watching Rambo it aint real. They lost that one as well.
So what was going on in the 1960's when the alleged moon landings occurred?
Political Assasinations
Bumping off of Kennedy, shooting of Black civil rights leaders, murder of Black Panthers,
The march on the Pentagon
http://www.hippy.com/article-315.html
ghetto rebellions Detroit and Washington 1967 and 1968 as well as mass student unrest.
A walk to the moon appeared to be a marketing ploy to recover some lost ground. Its no coincidence they just 'lost' the original tapes...
They will probably resurface digitally re-mastered |
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chek Mega Poster
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Courtesy of xkcd
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karlos Validated Poster
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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The only war America has ever won was the American Civil War.
That is why they have to fake everything so that they look cool.
Pat Tillman was killed by his own soldiers, in fact more British Soldiers in the current theatres have been killed by American 'friendly' fire than by the resistence.
The fact that so many Americans still despite all the evidence belive that they went to the moon demonstrates a nation in denial. _________________
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TmcMistress Mind Gamer
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:09 am Post subject: |
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Now, I hope you do realize that the parade referenced in that article is the very one I mentioned. Right?
Quote: | Now I know you believe the Yanks played a decisive role in WW2 and WW1 but I hate to dissapoint you, they didn't.
400,000 died only in WW2. The actual war was fought between Germany and the ex-Soviet Union. |
Both stelios and yourself seem to possess a remarkable ability for distilling things in my posts that aren't there at all. Or you seem to think you can read my mind from all the way 'cross the Atlantic. Please don't attempt to explain history to me, we're not all completely ignorant over here.
Quote: | In Korea again the Americans couldn't beat the Chinese who came out of an illegal occupation, a civil war and revolution and still managed to hold the USA at bay.
In Vietnam. Well quit watching Rambo it aint real. They lost that one as well. |
Where in the world are you pulling this from? The only explanation I can think of as to why you're coming to these conclusions is because you see me as some sort of uber-patriot for defending the moon landings (having to defend them in the first place is something I find incredibly disturbing). You could not be more wrong. As a Pagan-Feminist-Anarchist-Idealist-Buddhist-Anti Vegan, I am most decidedly not all too fond of the good ol' US, or at least not what it has become. _________________ "What about a dance club that only let in deaf people? It would really only need flashing lights, so they'd save a lot of money on music." - Dresden Codak |
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karlos Validated Poster
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:05 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Pagan-Feminist-Anarchist-Idealist-Buddhist-Anti Vegan, |
how do you get to be a 'pagan' and a Buddhist at the same time?
And what is an anti-vegan i thought you argued against eating meats? _________________
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TmcMistress Mind Gamer
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:28 am Post subject: |
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I was being a smart-a**, dear stelios. I'm not really *all* of those things.
But I do eat meat (insert juvenile snickering here). My girlfriend raises backyard poultry, and we cull, process, and eat our own chickens. Tastes about a billion times better than the hormone-soaked nonsense in the stores, I tell you. _________________ "What about a dance club that only let in deaf people? It would really only need flashing lights, so they'd save a lot of money on music." - Dresden Codak |
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TmcMistress wrote: | But I do eat meat (insert juvenile snickering here). My girlfriend raises backyard poultry, and we cull, process, and eat our own chickens. Tastes about a billion times better than the hormone-soaked nonsense in the stores, I tell you. |
Strange how we as a society are intent on 'softening' the act of taking life, then justify the action with some form of 'beneficial' associative connection. Very few people have the courage to use the word 'kill', in fact my nine year old daughter only found out on Saturday what beef is.
The most bizarre thing was last year in Scotland talking to a farmer who claimed to love his herd of Aberdeen Angus and how he cried when they went off to be slaughtered. People are crazy.
Before the howls start, newbie info = I am vegan for both health and moral reasons. _________________ I completely challenge the official version of events - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC -I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC |
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telecasterisation wrote: | TmcMistress wrote: | But I do eat meat (insert juvenile snickering here). My girlfriend raises backyard poultry, and we cull, process, and eat our own chickens. Tastes about a billion times better than the hormone-soaked nonsense in the stores, I tell you. |
Strange how we as a society are intent on 'softening' the act of taking life, then justify the action with some form of 'beneficial' associative connection. Very few people have the courage to use the word 'kill', in fact my nine year old daughter only found out on Saturday what beef is.
The most bizarre thing was last year in Scotland talking to a farmer who claimed to love his herd of Aberdeen Angus and how he cried when they went off to be slaughtered. People are crazy.
Before the howls start, newbie info = I am vegan for both health and moral reasons. |
I think I see what you're saying here Tele, but as a vegan myself for totally moral reasons, I nevertheless have respect for people who kill animals themselves rather than pick up some sanitised packet off a supermarket shelf but turn off the telly in revulsion when it shows a lion bringing down a wildebeast.
My uncle was a small farmer. He could tell you all about the different personalities of his small herd of cows. Then he sent them to their death (though he never cried!). Weird. But then I think it is far more crazy that people are specifically employed in slaughterhouses to kill animals for a living all day every day.
I reckon it's far better to take responsibility for your actions and kill to eat by your own hand than defer all responsibility to some distant death camp you never see and would probably make you sick if you did. _________________ It's a man's life in MOSSAD |
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So the infamous conspiracy theory where it is alleged that a cow performed an amazing feat of athletics in the high jump is what we are talking about now is it? |
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Dogsmilk wrote: | My uncle was a small farmer. |
Perhaps short people get into farming to make up for what they feel is some kind of deficiency? _________________ I completely challenge the official version of events - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC -I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC |
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TmcMistress Mind Gamer
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'Cull' is just the standard word for killing livestock, tele. It's not a removal from the act. Grow up and lose the Righteous Indignation(tm). If it makes you happy, next time I'll release the chickens out into the wild where they're sure to be picked off by a hawk in seconds.
I've got no *real* problem with vegans, that was just a joke; whatever floats your particular boat. Were my girlfriend and I not killing these chickens, they would be put to death by chemical cocktail and tossed in the trash, and their death would serve no purpose whatsoever. _________________ "What about a dance club that only let in deaf people? It would really only need flashing lights, so they'd save a lot of money on music." - Dresden Codak |
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TmcMistress Mind Gamer
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Dogsmilk wrote: |
I reckon it's far better to take responsibility for your actions and kill to eat by your own hand than defer all responsibility to some distant death camp you never see and would probably make you sick if you did. |
You're right, and they do. Once my SO and I have our own place, we have every intention of living as self-sustainably as possible (within reason, of course). _________________ "What about a dance club that only let in deaf people? It would really only need flashing lights, so they'd save a lot of money on music." - Dresden Codak |
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chek Mega Poster
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stelios wrote: | The only war America has ever won was the American Civil War.
That is why they have to fake everything so that they look cool.
Pat Tillman was killed by his own soldiers, in fact more British Soldiers in the current theatres have been killed by American 'friendly' fire than by the resistence.
The fact that so many Americans still despite all the evidence belive that they went to the moon demonstrates a nation in denial. |
The evidence of moon fakery you refer to has all the substance of the no planery cult, i.e. people who are willing to believe any old contrived nonsense inevitably end up doing just that. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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chek wrote: | stelios wrote: | The only war America has ever won was the American Civil War.
That is why they have to fake everything so that they look cool.
Pat Tillman was killed by his own soldiers, in fact more British Soldiers in the current theatres have been killed by American 'friendly' fire than by the resistence.
The fact that so many Americans still despite all the evidence belive that they went to the moon demonstrates a nation in denial. |
The evidence of moon fakery you refer to has all the substance of the no planery cult, i.e. people who are willing to believe any old contrived nonsense inevitably end up doing just that. |
Until an independent investigation is carried out one that is not controlled by the USA then this question remains open.
Stelios did assert 6=20% of Americans don't believe in the moon landings.
I believed in them from a small boy. But was picked up upon it by another poster as to why didn't the Russians make it to the moon.
I subsequently changed my mind. The more I look into it the more I believe it is faked. Which parts and how they did it is an open question.
Just like who actually brought down the Twin Towers and how it exactly happened. |
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