Another example of deception in "September Clues"

John White · Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:41 pm Post subject:

Yet more reasons why NPT is a delusional farce

Indubitably · 9/11 Truth critic Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 264

Well John, here's your chance to answer, with facts, the case presented for media fakery in the two cases of Chopper 5 and Chopper 7. This will rescue us from farce. And we will all thank you.

In one case the smoke from the North Tower rises only every second frame of video. Em, any comment ?

John White · Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:51 pm Post subject:

Yeah my comment is:

September Clues is a FRAUD

Compared to that, I don't give a stuff about your delusions about helicopters

Admit the truth or take the consequences

chek · Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:52 pm Post subject:

Indubitably · 9/11 Truth critic Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 264

OK, let's examine the case of Chopper 5. Do you agree that every second video frame of that sequence shows smoke rising from the North Tower but the ones in between do not ?

Indubitably · 9/11 Truth critic Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 264

John White,

The consequences of establishing truth are the end of lies. The assertion of truth is the inevitable end of fakery, of misinformation and of evil. I accept the consequences of truth and welcome them. Stop bullshitting us and get in to truth. The material is faked.

chek · Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:19 pm Post subject:

my left bollock · 9/11 Truth critic Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 87

What hit the Twin Towers Chek?

chek · Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject:

my left bollock · 9/11 Truth critic Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 87

Well it would appear Chek isn't goung to tell us what he believes hit the Twin Towers, I guess he is not programmed to answer such a question or maybe he is waiting for his handler to tell him what to say

It's not a difficult question

What hit the Twin Towers Chek?

chek · Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:47 pm Post subject:

Indubitably · 9/11 Truth critic Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 264

Yes, he's not programmed to answer such a simple question. Let's ask him in a simpler way.

Chek, can you please get approval from your hero handler to tell us -

What hit the Twin Towers ?

chek · Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject:

chek · Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject:

Still no on topic responses from Killtown's team of trolls?

chek · Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:24 am Post subject:

chek · Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:34 am Post subject:

Bumping this topic which the no planers seem to be avoiding

gruts · Major Poster Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 1050

chek · Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:25 am Post subject:

ogrady · New Poster Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 7 Location: Chicago

I've been looking at google maps and viewing this topic to try to decipher what the view might really have been like and how visible a plane might have been to any observer from 8th & 16th, but haven't been able to decide without visiting the place myself. (not possible at the moment)

However, something occurred to me. A lot of effort has gone into attempting to debunk SC and locate Ms. Renaud. But let's try to remember that 911 was a BIG LIE! A deception played out by the government and the media on the world. So why spend so much time nit-picking about the view? How do we know where this person was calling from? She could have been where she said, or sitting in the next sound booth, or Boise. Remember Barbara Olsen's phone call that never happened? How CNN reported it to us and wove that part of the myth into public consciousness? Now, of course, the FBI admits that the call didn't take place, but the damage has been done. Since we are questioning the media coverage of that day (or at least I am) how can we selectively believe parts of a lie?

Stefan · Banned Joined: 29 Aug 2006 Posts: 1219

O'Grady,

It's REALLY really simple - we selectivley believe parts of a story which there is evidence for, and disbelieve parts which there is evidence against - critical thinking.

This logic of "If they lied about this then they must have lied about EVERYTHING" is not logic; it's not even an argument.

Where do we go from that point - perhaps we could propose the Twin Towers are still there - after all we saw them disintegrate on TV right? Since it's on TV and the media is deceptive the ONLY conclusion (using this "logic") is that they are still there.

You seem to be calling here for people to leave their cognitive faculties at the door of conceptual idealogy - no need to examine claims against evidence anymore - 9/11 IS A BIG LIE therefore people are just nit picking if they do not agree with everysingle evidenceless claim - as long as that claim reinforces the BIG IDEA that 9/11 was a BIG LIE.

Our movement would not be off the ground if this had been the appraoch - as it is it has come on leaps and bounds because scientists and engineers and architechts have put in the hard graft to seive fact from fantasy. IT IS NOT nit picking to openly call out untennable theories as they are designed and intended to discredit the gains we have made.

gruts · Major Poster Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 1050

ogrady - how can we ultimately prove to ourselves 100% that something that we didn't witness ourselves really did happen? maybe we can't....

on the other hand, one thing we definitely can prove is that simon shack is guilty of deliberate deception and fakery. and that's what we have in fact proved in this thread (and others). what we've also proved is how desperately some people will defend his deliberate deception and fakery, almost to the point of losing touch with reality.

why do you think they do that?

chek · Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject:

It seems to me that they will do anything but confront the fraud they like to promote.

Interesting and unflattering motivations as to why could be quite easily speculated indeed.

slimpickins · Validated Poster Joined: 29 Feb 2008 Posts: 17

chek · Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject:

slimpickins · Validated Poster Joined: 29 Feb 2008 Posts: 17

Curses! There was I hoping to start with something new and useful.

Should have known better!

gruts · Major Poster Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 1050

strange coincidence or what?

while looking through the thread on KT's forum I linked to in this post....

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=110987#110987

....I found a link to this photo showing the view of the twin towers from Chelsea prior to 9/11.

slimpickins · Validated Poster Joined: 29 Feb 2008 Posts: 17

Good find chek.

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