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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:43 pm    Post subject: more "september clues" disinfo Reply with quote

I thought i'd recycle this previous post of mine just for our friend mr indubitably, who missed it the first time around. the deception and fakery in "september clues" actually starts from the very beginning....

the first section of the film is taken from CNN's live broadcast on the morning of 9/11.

if you watch the actual CNN broadcast here....

http://www.archive.org/details/cnn200109110848-0929

....you can compare the carefully edited segment that is shown in "september clues" with what was actually shown on tv.

like all the clips in "SC" it's very grainy and extremely low res (this is really apparent when watching in full screen mode), and what we see is that during a discussion about the damage to tower 1 caused by the first plane, the second plane arrives and crashes into tower 2.

first of all, this is actually footage from local new york station WABC and what "SC" doesn't tell you is that the news anchor is talking over the phone to a guy called Winston Mitchell, who is inside a diner that's somewhere just north of the wtc.

immediately prior to what we see in "sc", Mitchell has been describing the first plane crash and damage to wtc1.

when the second plane arrives he is looking through a window (which is presumably on, or near to, ground level) at the north tower and when he sees the explosion caused by the second impact he assumes that it's a secondary explosion inside tower 1 resulting from the first plane crash.

the screen briefly fades to black just after we see the plane disappear behind the tower and "SC" implies that there's something deeply suspicious about this without telling us what it is (although later they claim that it occurs at exactly the same time as a "fade to black" on Fox, when it plainly doesn't - the fade to black on CNN clearly takes place before we see the fireball and in the Fox chopper footage the fade to black clearly takes place after we see the fireball)....

"SC" also notes that the anchor doesn't see the second plane and only comments on the explosion - although there's nothing surprising about this, given that nobody except the perps was expecting the second plane and the commentator isn't constantly watching the feed (and the witness would have no way of seeing the approach of the second plane from his position inside a diner just north of the wtc).

so "SC" seems to be trying to create something out of nothing....

although the anchor then says "put winston on hold for just a moment" and in "SC" the clip comes to an end, the conversation actually continues for some time after that in the unedited footage - and it's clear that both the anchor and the witness still haven't realised that the second tower has been hit and are assuming that the explosion is taking place in tower 1 as an after-effect of the first plane crash. it's only about 30 seconds later that the anchor realises that the second tower is on fire (which kind of contradicts the NPT sheeple's belief that all the media anchors were reading from scripts under the direction of the perps).

"SC" specifically tries to make it look like there's something suspicious about him saying "we've got an explosion inside" when the second plane hits (the words are displayed on the screen) - but doesn't let you know that the anchor is commenting on what he assumes is a secondary event in tower 1 following the first crash (as he clearly states in the unedited footage that "SC" leaves out).

"SC" also tries to make a big deal out of the fact that the "on site reporter's mic picks up no impact sound", without telling you that there's a simple reason for that - he's inside a building talking to the anchor over the phone and we don't even know if he has a mic.

this first sequence lasts just under 2 minutes and consists entirely of misleading and somewhat desperate attempts to portray the CNN footage as suspicious - and the footage clearly wasn't edited in this way by accident - which kind of makes a mockery of simon shack's stated aim of a "personal quest for justice" for what really happened on 9/11.

in summary - 2 minutes of worthless disinfo....

what do you think, mr indubitably?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Answer the questions NPT fraud peddlars!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the video is useless you should not use it to 'prove' planes hit the WTC.

You can't have it both ways.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indubitably wrote:
If the video is useless you should not use it to 'prove' planes hit the WTC.

You can't have it both ways.


Proving planes hit the towers does not rely on Videos!

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what does John White think hit the towers?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my left bollock wrote:
So what does John White think hit the towers?


The same as all rational people.

Now why not help out your friend mr indubitably to answer why your community promotes lies, as exposed on these threads:

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11608

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11695

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11664

then we may get to your new topic.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let John answer for himself Chek

Now John please tell us what hit the Twin Towers?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also want to be rational.

Can you please tell us what hit the Twin Towers ?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indubitably wrote:
I also want to be rational.

Can you please tell us what hit the Twin Towers ?


Please apply your newly discovered rationality to answer why your community promotes lies, as exposed on these threads that you've been ducking for too long now:

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11608

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11695

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11664

then we may get to a new topic.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What hit the Twin Towers Chek?

For someone who so violently opposes NPT you must know

So spill the beans, we can't wait to hear your pearls of wisdom
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my left bollock wrote:
What hit the Twin Towers Chek?

For someone who so violently opposes NPT you must know

So spill the beans, we can't wait to hear your pearls of wisdom


Forget your ineffective spaming tactics and help out your friend mr indubitably to answer why your community promotes lies, as exposed on these threads:

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11608

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11695

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11664

then we may get to a new topic.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still no on topic responses from Killtown's team of trolls?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my left bollock wrote:
What hit the Twin Towers Chek?

For someone who so violently opposes NPT you must know

So spill the beans, we can't wait to hear your pearls of wisdom


In a way, I'd hope there'd always be a Killtown's Komedy Kult Klub with its fascinating demographic.

But alas, realism would tend to indicate it can only last until the sheeple who are currently sheeplised continue to be spellbound.
And for how much longer can that be?

Raw human intelligence is like the grass, and we know that even concrete paving blocks cannot stop the grass growing around and eventually through it.

But then, people are also fond of their illusions, no matter how hopelessly killtownish they may be.

All we can do is hope and/or pray.

Still, I really do wish they'd answer these questions that are somewhat pertinent to their apparently ridiculous beliefs. I'm sure it could all be cleared up in no time.

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11608

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11695

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11664

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

indubitably wrote:
I have examined the broadcast footage that is used by 'September Clues' and can confirm it IS a faithful copy of the broadcast footage.

well it's clear that killtown's klowns did everything they could to avoid the evidence that shack is a liar and a fraud (and that they're guilty of knowingly spreading shack's lies).

and I haven't seen much in the way of a rebuttal of this list of hundreds of examples of deception and fakery in "September Clues"....

http://twilightpines.com/images/debunkingseptemberclues.pdf
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gruts wrote:
indubitably wrote:
I have examined the broadcast footage that is used by 'September Clues' and can confirm it IS a faithful copy of the broadcast footage.

well it's clear that killtown's klowns did everything they could to avoid the evidence that shack is a liar and a fraud (and that they're guilty of knowingly spreading shack's lies).

and I haven't seen much in the way of a rebuttal of this list of hundreds of examples of deception and fakery in "September Clues"....

http://twilightpines.com/images/debunkingseptemberclues.pdf


Still waiting, as our occasional troll likes to say.

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