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andyb
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How are Cosmos and Michael Wolsley untraceable? Having been in close contact with Cynthia McKinney when this report came out I am certain that the orignator of the report was not acting very professionaly.
Also, none of this justifies Tarpley's attacks on Cindy Sheehan
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Members of our yahoo group were very excited when this warning came out. We also thought there might be something to it. But, reluctantly, we had to conclude the warning, as presented, was a fraud.
That is, even if the contents(massive evidence of an imminent attack) might have been accurate, the circumstances under which signatures were gathered and the unprofessional meltdown of Mr. Tarpley when confronted, cast grave doubts on the whole matter.
As we know, those who are first to lash out with accusation of "cointelpro" are the most likely to have something to hide. And apparently that is exactly what Mr. Tarpley did when confronted about his behavior:
http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/09/webster-tarpley-arabesque-cos mos-jenny.html
http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/08/kennebunkport-warning-hoax-co ntroversy.html
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2123
I have yet to read all the material about the fall out over the last two months, but apparently the attacks by Tarpley and others became so outrageous that one of the parties was inspired to write this:
Webster Tarpley: Your services will no longer be required
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2501
It is sad because Mr. Tarpley had been such an asset for so long. All I can imagine is he became blinded by his ego and has lost his way, much like Mr. Shayler.
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gareth
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Kennebunkport disinfo and nuke provocation |
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| TonyGosling wrote: | | One of the extremely divisive allegations recently against the peace movement and 911 truthers in the US is that the Kennebunkport Warning is some kind of hoax. It isn't. |
I suggest if anyone is new to this issue they do some reading:
The Kennebunkport Warning Controversy Reviewed by Arabesque
The Kennebunkport Warning: A Hoax? from the truthaction.org forum
9-11 Synthetic Error: The meltdown of Webster G. Tarpley by Visibility 9/11's Michael Wolsey
| TonyGosling wrote: | | Please take a little time to explore those 'exposing' this 'hoax' and you'll see that there are just a handful of untraceable people |
What do you mean by untraceable Tony and what relevance would that have even if it were true, which it isn't?
The facts speak for themselves
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:58 pm Post subject: Re: Kennebunkport disinfo and nuke provocation |
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| gareth wrote: |
| TonyGosling wrote: | | Please take a little time to explore those 'exposing' this 'hoax' and you'll see that there are just a handful of untraceable people |
What do you mean by untraceable Tony and what relevance would that have even if it were true, which it isn't?
The facts speak for themselves |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:11 pm Post subject: Re: Kennebunkport disinfo and nuke provocation |
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| TonyGosling wrote: |
Please be aware that the warning happened just one or two days before the B52 incident back at the end of August and beginning of September and may well have been absolutely spot on. |
This is what happened according to recent newsreports.
So the fact that a false flag terror attack did not occur is evidence of what precisely? That Tarpley was wrong to push for such a warning?
The exact opposite I believe. |
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pdx911action
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:49 am Post subject: Re: Kennebunkport disinfo and nuke provocation |
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| conspiracy analyst wrote: | | TonyGosling wrote: |
Please be aware that the warning happened just one or two days before the B52 incident back at the end of August and beginning of September and may well have been absolutely spot on. |
This is what happened according to recent newsreports.
So the fact that a false flag terror attack did not occur is evidence of what precisely? That Tarpley was wrong to push for such a warning?
The exact opposite I believe. |
This is an example of an unfortunate case of flawed logic.
Firstly, it was not the contents of the warning that was the cause of the controversy. Rather, it was Tarpley's behavior, when the signatures were called into question, that people object to. As a public figure, Mr. Tarpley has some responsibilities to the public that do not include calling people liars and agents just because they disagree with him. As such, it really sounds like he is not the best person to promote his own cause any more.
As for the B52 incident, this is a case where "evidence" is being retroactivley used to "prove" something so vague almost anything could be found to fit. The fact is we are not going to be "warned" if this sort of thing happens. And anyone issuing such a warning with any accuracy has to almost certainly be part of, not apart from, the problem.
We should be cautious of this trend towards whipping up hysteria over so little; this is a good article on the psychology behind false prophecy:
When Prophecy Fails
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2420
This is not the first time that Mr. Tarpley or Captain May have been involved in these false prophecy shenanigans. But, with education, we can hope it will be the last. 
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:33 am Post subject: Re: Kennebunkport disinfo and nuke provocation |
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| pdx911action wrote: | | conspiracy analyst wrote: | | TonyGosling wrote: |
Please be aware that the warning happened just one or two days before the B52 incident back at the end of August and beginning of September and may well have been absolutely spot on. |
This is what happened according to recent newsreports.
So the fact that a false flag terror attack did not occur is evidence of what precisely? That Tarpley was wrong to push for such a warning?
The exact opposite I believe. |
This is an example of an unfortunate case of flawed logic.
Firstly, it was not the contents of the warning that was the cause of the controversy. Rather, it was Tarpley's behavior, when the signatures were called into question, that people object to. As a public figure, Mr. Tarpley has some responsibilities to the public that do not include calling people liars and agents just because they disagree with him. As such, it really sounds like he is not the best person to promote his own cause any more.
As for the B52 incident, this is a case where "evidence" is being retroactivley used to "prove" something so vague almost anything could be found to fit. The fact is we are not going to be "warned" if this sort of thing happens. And anyone issuing such a warning with any accuracy has to almost certainly be part of, not apart from, the problem.
We should be cautious of this trend towards whipping up hysteria over so little; this is a good article on the psychology behind false prophecy:
When Prophecy Fails
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2420
This is not the first time that Mr. Tarpley or Captain May have been involved in these false prophecy shenanigans. But, with education, we can hope it will be the last. |
You say the signatures were called into question.
By whom and for what purpose?
Were they printed falsely? If not then Tarpley is right to question those who lie about their collection.
The next part is just pure nonsense. If a nuclear attack is averted due to the publicity such a declaration got because of the high profile names and this created conflict within the army who are observing these sites, then it served its purpose. I dont think what you say has any validity for that would mean Tarpley would be issuing a false flag daily or hourly or by the second like the share prices on a stock exchange. |
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