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Stupid reaches new levels!
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Killtown
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| John White wrote: | | Stupid reaches new levels! |
| John White wrote: | | killtown wrote: | | Man, that was PAINFUL! 28min of having to hear some condescending, arrogant tone like their walking with their nose up in the air Brit's voice. Love all his assumptions when trying to explain "what really happened". |
Desperate! The guy is badly badly pwned and this is all he can try
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=95042#95042
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| Killtown wrote: | | John White wrote: | | Stupid reaches new levels! |
| John White wrote: | | killtown wrote: | | Man, that was PAINFUL! 28min of having to hear some condescending, arrogant tone like their walking with their nose up in the air Brit's voice. Love all his assumptions when trying to explain "what really happened". |
Desperate! The guy is badly badly pwned and this is all he can try
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=95042#95042
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No fool, stupid reaches new levels
This is a totally faked up peice of jizz, playing with proportion to make an absurd assertation
You personally swallow this? You are telling me you get suckered and conned by such obvious bogus garbage?
Or you just push and put out this garbage out to mislead and misdirect others?
You are the sewer of truth killtown, not the well spring
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chek
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Killtowns faithful poodle Quest posted this garbage over at PfT.
I asked him why he was using a true frontal elevation of a B767
against an acute angled perspective view of a Tower.
He said he'd 'get back to me'.
Needless to say, I'm still waiting.
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this is what gets me about these people....
are "amanda" and killtown really so stupid that they don't understand this simple effect of perspective? after all - I find it hard to believe that any adult human being with a functioning brain would fail to understand it.
or are they posting this drivel while fully aware of what they're doing - and if so, why?
are they trying to discredit the case for NPT, or 9/11 truth generally, by using such obviously bogus "evidence"? or are they actually hoping to fool the gullible into believing that this actually proves something?
I'm not sure which is worst to be honest.... |
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gruts
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killtown - do you really not understand why "amanda's" comparisons are ridiculous given the effect of perspective in the images "she" is using?
and do you really not understand the simple explanation of how perspective works in the thread below?
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11693
because if you can't even understand something as basic as the difference between 2D and 3D - then how on earth do you expect anyone to take any of your "research" seriously? |
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| gruts wrote: | this is what gets me about these people....
are "amanda" and killtown really so stupid that they don't understand this simple effect of perspective? after all - I find it hard to believe that any adult human being with a functioning brain would fail to understand it.
or are they posting this drivel while fully aware of what they're doing - and if so, why?
are they trying to discredit the case for NPT, or 9/11 truth generally, by using such obviously bogus "evidence"? or are they actually hoping to fool the gullible into believing that this actually proves something?
I'm not sure which is worst to be honest.... |
I really dunno.
It's plain there's no quality control. Does he just bung it out there and hope the morons on his site will never notice?
Or does his dept. provide and doofus just has to slap it up on his site.
A new line every week, like that hopeless mystery bang vid he's hawking round now.
No wonder champ can't ever defend anything.
Who could?
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It's pretty clear - the arguments HAVE to be laughably bad - how else can they be used as strawmen against the genuine 9/11 truth campaigners asking reasonable and sober questions?
The more painfully absurd and blindingly moronic the claims get the better for the PTB.
He doesn't even need anyone to agree with him - just post it and later someone in the MSM can refer to it as "what the 9/11 truth movement believes" at any point that we make any gains and the mainstream public can say "oh what silly fools" and get on with their lives without ever having to ask themselves any serious questions.
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| Stefan wrote: | It's pretty clear - the arguments HAVE to be laughably bad - how else can they be used as strawmen against the genuine 9/11 truth campaigners asking reasonable and sober questions?
The more painfully absurd and blindingly moronic the claims get the better for the PTB.
He doesn't even need anyone to agree with him - just post it and later someone in the MSM can refer to it as "what the 9/11 truth movement believes" at any point that we make any gains and the mainstream public can say "oh what silly fools" and get on with their lives without ever having to ask themselves any serious questions. |
That would seem a fair appraisal to me.
Popular Mechanics and the MSM as the right hand, Killtown's Klub and it's allied boogers as the left hand, and the real search for 911 Truth squeezed out of existence in the middle.
At least that was the plan. 
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| Stefan wrote: | | It's pretty clear - the arguments HAVE to be laughably bad - how else can they be used as strawmen against the genuine 9/11 truth campaigners asking reasonable and sober questions? |
it's not just that they make these ridiculous claims in the first place - it's the fact that they'll go on repeating them as if they are "the truth" long after they've been laughed out of court.
and the fact that it's almost like they're all reading the same cue cards....
| Stefan wrote: | The more painfully absurd and blindingly moronic the claims get the better for the PTB.
He doesn't even need anyone to agree with him - just post it and later someone in the MSM can refer to it as "what the 9/11 truth movement believes" at any point that we make any gains and the mainstream public can say "oh what silly fools" and get on with their lives without ever having to ask themselves any serious questions. |
yup - that's the conclusion that the evidence points me to as well. let's say that we divide people into 5 groups depending on how they perceive the events of 9/11....
Group A - people who either believe in the OCT or can't be arsed thinking about it.
Group B - people who ask logical and rational questions about various gaps or inconsistencies in the OCT.
Group C - people who swamp the internet with illogical and irrational claims about the OCT which are repeatedly shown to be bogus, while simultaneously attacking Group B at every possible opportunity (and portraying any attempt by Group B to disagree with them as a sign that they're "working for the perps", "shills", "truthlings", "planehuggers" etc).
Group D - the gullible, sheep-like useful idiots, pawns, sockpuppets, cheerleaders and repeaters who believe and spread the disinfo created by Group C.
Group E - people who spend an inordinate amount of time on the internet trying to defend the OCT and discredit people who question it.
tbh it wouldn't surprise me if people in group E and those in groups C & D were actually part of the same team.
on the face of it they would appear to be very different, but are they really?
Group E spend the vast quantities of spare time they seem to have trying to discredit people who question the official story of 9/11. Groups C & D spend the vast quantities of spare time they seem to have trying to discredit the 99% of people who question the official story of 9/11 but who don't believe their npt/tvf/dew fairy tales.
the evidence shows that they attack the same people and the intended result is also the same. |
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How did the Outer Limits put it?
"We control the horizontal and the vertical"
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| gruts wrote: | killtown - do you really not understand why "amanda's" comparisons are ridiculous given the effect of perspective in the images "she" is using?
and do you really not understand the simple explanation of how perspective works in the thread below?
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11693
because if you can't even understand something as basic as the difference between 2D and 3D - then how on earth do you expect anyone to take any of your "research" seriously? |
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