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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John White wrote:
You really need to find that documentary mate: it undermines your whole case for it to be based on evidence you can't show: it would certainly be very powerful if you could!


Found out yesterday the copy that was found has been removed from availability via a threat. Three intercepts, a long silence, now a shutdown.

Catch 22, the truth movement is the only way to publicize the need for the doc, but the truth movement appreantly cannot use still images, published PDF,s,

see chapter 2.1

http://www.ncsea.com/downloads/wtcseerp.pdf

August Domel, Jr., Ph.D., S.E., P.E. November 2001

Professional Engineer in twelve states

The load carrying system was designed so that the steel facade would resist lateral and gravity forces and the interior concrete core would carry only gravity loads.


common sense and logic to justify the rejection of social fears preventing integration of the documentary search into the movement.

The psyops is well designed and truthers are putty to it.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So do not let yourself be controlled by the perpetrators psychological operation. The truth movement can legitimately seek the video, "The Engineering and Construction of the Twin Towers" and, if we use strategy, we can get publicity and find it quickly, but a few people who have experience with steel and concrete who recognize it in stills must break rank from the grip of social fear the infiltration of the movement has created and show their support.

Without this, there is a very good chance that we will never get the truth. Think about it, over six years and in many ways, we've lost ground (certainly evidence). It is only the worsening economic conditions and other conditions that make people who had an interest in truth or objection to the official story, but responded to social fears back then and avoided the comitment, who are now starting to become active, that the movement has grown.

Leslie E. Robertson provided this information to Newsweek originally. It is such powerful information that there was some sort of threat applied to Newsweek and they have changed the original page.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3069641/

I found another with the same story


http://www.mywire.com/pubs/Newsweek/2001/09/13/316095

Leslie Robertson, Architect Of The World Trade Center Towers

Still, Robertson, whose firm is responsible for three of the six tallest buildings in the world, feels a sense of pride that the massive towers, supported by a steel-tube exoskeleton and a reinforced concrete core, held up as well as they did—managing to stand for over an hour despite direct hits from two massive commercial jetliners.


Your futures are in the balance. Do not let the infiltrators of the US government control you. Put evidence and reason first.

WTC 2 steel reinforced tubular, cast concrete core.



The FEMA lie.



How can the bottom diagram possibly represent the photo taken on 9-11 of the actual core?

Concrete can be fractured instantly to fall freely by a small amount of properly placed high explosives, steel cannot.

All of the events of 9-11 at the WTC can be explained, but not with steel core columns. What do you stand for? Deception and social coercion via psychological operation, or evidence.

I made the video because the images could be integrated better, via video to show exactly how the concrete core was configured and seen on 9-11.

Twin Tower Deception and Demolition I

Twin Tower Deception and Demolition II
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since there is no reasoning presented for the obvious inability to rally at all behind solid evdence supporting the concrete core or efforts to convince the truth movement that such justifies a search for the 1990 video, "The Engineering and Construction of the Twin Towers", I propose that the part of the mind which cannot reason is in control of the decision to support the concrete core issue.

The unconscious mind.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Revised Report Supports the Concrete Core Reply with quote

This is the latest paper by Bazant et al, the first one was included in the NIST report. Of course the authors do not support demolition, at least the structure has been corrected.


Collapse of World Trade Center Towers: wrote:

May 27, 2007
What Did and Did Not Cause It?
Zdenek P. Bazant
1
, Hon.M. ASCE, Jia-Liang Le
2
, Frank R. Greening
3
, and David B. Benson
4
Abstract: Previous analysis of progressive collapse showed that gravity alone suffices to explain
the overall collapse of the World Trade Center towers. However, it has not been checked whether
the allegations of controlled demolition by planted explosives have any scientific merit. The present
analysis proves that they do not. The video record available for the first few seconds of collapse
agrees with the motion history calculated from the differential equation of progressive collapse but
disproves the free fall hypothesis (on which the aforementioned allegations rest). Although, due to
absence of experimental crushing data for the lightweight concrete used, the theory of comminution
cannot predict the size range of pulverized concrete particles, it is shown that the observed size
range (0.01 mm – 0.1 mm) is fully consistent with this theory and is achievable by collapse driven
gravity alone, and that only about 7% of the total gravitational energy converted to kinetic energy
of impacts would have sufficed to pulverize all the concrete slabs and core walls (while at least 158
tons of TNT per tower, installed into many small holes drilled into each concrete floor slab and core
wall, would have been needed to produce the same degree of pulverization).
The exit speed of air
ejected from the building by the crushing front of gravitational collapse must have attained, near
the ground, 465 mph (208 m/s) on the average, and fluctuations must have reached the speed of
sound. This explains loud booms and wide spreading of pulverized concrete and glass fragments,
and shows that the lower margin of dust cloud could not have coincided with the crushing front.
The resisting upward forces due to pulverization and air ejection, neglected in previous studies, are
found to be negligible during the first few seconds of collapse but not insignificant near the end
of crush-down (these forces extended the crush-down duration by about 4%; they augmented, by
about 25%, the resisting force due to column buckling at the end of crush-down, and doubled that
force at the beginning of crush-up). The calculated crush-down duration is found to match a logical
interpretation of seismic record, while the free fall duration is found to be in conflict.


http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:H5djFQBfSzsJ:www.civil.northwester n.edu/people/bazant/PDFs/Papers/00%2520WTC%2520Collapse%2520-%2520What %2520did%2520%26%2520Did%2520Not%2520Cause%2520It%2520-%2520Revised%25 206-22-07.pdf+Bazant&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a
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