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catfish
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 Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:18 am Post subject: Are we playing into their hands? |
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Problem: The rotten to the core American government has fooled the public with the terrible events of 9/11 (soon to be widely publicised)
Reaction: The American public are in uproar, this nasty bunch of buggers must be removed.
Solution: Replace the government with some virtual unknowns who are actually even bigger, more evil, cleverer buggers.......
Could I be right?
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ianrcrane
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: Limited Hangout! |
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Hi Catfish,
this is an extremely astute observation .... unfortunately, your intuition may prove to be remarkably insightful!
This probability is worthy of further development ... keep digging.
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alkmyst
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:51 pm Post subject: Time to peel the layers away from the Jesuits |
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Time to Dig Deeper.
This forum is host to some outstanding independent researchers. Although there are numerous posts which probe the hidden hands behind the New World Order, none have yet broached upon the role of The Jesuits.
Just as people have to reach their own realisation with regard to the Truth behind the events of 9/11, this is also true when researching the 'Power Brokers'.
The reason that the term 'Illuminati' raises its head is a direct result of researchers peeling back the layers beyond the NeoCons & the Zionists, yet knowing that there are players who are manipulating each of these groups.
Consider the possibility that the term 'Illuminati' might just be the creation of the real power brokers. See the link below for a glimpse at what needs to be exposed next:
www.remnantofgod.org/blackpope.htm
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scar
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Hello alkmyst...
I had a good dig a while back.
I posted about Phelps here, you might find it interesting:
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=2118&highlight=
Lots of info in this thread if you want to dig deeper.
http://control-alt-delete.ca/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3123&po stdays=0&postorder=asc&start=105
Phelps is a racist, plain as day.
heres some quotes from the man.
http://s13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=333&s t=0
"That Blacks are the lower races, intellectually, culturally and socially; that they are morally inferior to the White races generally speaking although there are individual exceptions (mostly Bible-believing) to this general rule"
"That Blacks left to themselves without the aid of the civilizing effects of White (I might add Bible-reading, Protestant and Baptist) influence (as opposed to anti-Bible, White Roman Catholic influence), they revert back to a condition of savagery being unable to take care of their most basic needs..."
"The purpose of the races was to keep mankind separate lest we should unite against God as was done at Babel. No, never give your consent for your daughter to marry a Black man or any other race, and never consent to her marrying a non-Bible believing Christian. Both points must be never conpromised."
"Generally they [black people] hate us and I seek to avoid them as they will usually victimize me in some lesser or greater way."
"Interracial marriage is a sin violating the purpose of God in His creation of the races."
etc etc
Sound like someone who can discern truth to you?
I wonder what solutions he would offer...
Solomon: did you not see that I did pay attention to your post?
@catfish: I agree. It'll be the democrats not some unknowns though imo.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Well I have mentioned previously that I believe the Bush Administration actually do want to get caught. I never realised why they wanted to be but this could very well be the reason. I even did a poll but hardly anyone seemed interested at the time. http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=2015 |
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scar
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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I didnt realize there was an ignore option on here...
Cool. heheh.
I dont mean to piss on your fire lads.
No doubt the jesuits have played a role and who knows how far their influence spreads. I suppose one could say its unfortunate that the main jesuit researcher holds such views. Im sure some would argue hes a plant to turn people away from the truth...
My only wish was to inform ya that the Phelps angle might lead ya somewhere nasty. That was all. Perhaps those quotes dont bother you like they do me.
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catfish
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The more I think about this the more I'm sure I'm right.
Look at the 9/11 truth movement critically just for a moment. The main thrust of most of the websites is to promote 9/11 truth and expose the Bush regime.
The evidence against the Bush administration is insurmoutable.
Alex Jones did a good job of rubbishing Michael Moore for making Bush look like an idiot instead of an evil mastermind.
But Bush is an idiot.... give him a set of golf clubs and a hunting gun, give him a fancy uniform and tell him he's the most powerful man in the world and this guy will do anything you say.
My point being that everyone is pointing fingers at the Bush administration, but they are just the puppets.
Don't look at who's a member of skull and bones think about who set it up, and try and find out because these are the real money and brains behind this, Bush and Co are expendable.
Look maybe to Larry Silverstein for you're first port of call, find out who his friends are, what organisations he sponsors and who's interests does he look after?
The Jesuit thing is something I had read briefly weeks ago and I can't remember where now, thanks for the link Al.
You know my theory, this is all a diversion from the fact that our lives can run on water, the roman church, jesuits, masons, zionists, whatever you choose to call them, they've been keeping a secret so long they've forgotten what it is!
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Okay so maybe I've become a little obsessive but I've got a copy of the peter's map. The only map to truly depict the world in it's proper proportions.
You can get one here : http://www.petersmap.com/
So I was looking at it and thought what happens if I draw lines through Rome:
Click on it and zoom in.
Lines go through:
London - Rome - Canberra
Capetown - Kinshasa - Tripoli - Rome - Munich - Oslo
San Fransisco - Washington DC - Barcelona - Rome - Sofia (Bulgaria)
Seattle - Ottawa - Rome - Seoul
Caracus - Rome - Moscow
Sydney - Alexandria - Rome - Paris - Birmingham - Liverpool
And there are many others which I am going to add.
This crazy world sheesh!
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Are we playing into "their" hands?
My gut instinct and my reason says NO
Becuase we represent diversity, of perception, expression and opinion: diversity coming together for common cause, but diversity for all that
Its true that we are peeling layers off of an onion...the whole picture could change at any time, especially with another flase flag
Its also true that 911 itself was only a symptom of a far deeper malady, ultimately the complete corruption of the entire system in which we have been educated to place out trust, our sense of self, and the structure of our society...our very sense of reality
But to juggle illusions as the elite do requires the utmost skill and fortune...there is no guarentee which way that will ultimately fall...but the one and only enemy of totalitarianism...is diversity
If we challenge ourselves to be the best human beings that we can find it within us to be...it is "they" who are falling into our hands
I dont have much to say on the Jesuit angle, other than I have looked into it to some degree of depth and can see plenty of murky history there...if it can be exposed, it will be...however, I am also very aware that it just will not fly with reaching out to hypnotised hearts and minds...far more productive is to focus on the tangable provable fallacies at the heart of the history of the catholic church, becuase "they" have no defense beyond mind control, jesuit order or not...and that particular myth is one that forever changes a persons view of the world once "popped"
I do of course respect other peoples belief systems, and I have no interest in causing upset...so my only other comment in this area is that, to date, every single human being who thought they would see the return of Christ and the end times in their lifetimes has been 100% wrong...and thats a very large number of wrong people
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:58 am Post subject: Afrocentric view of the world |
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I think the upside down map represents the Afrocentric belief system, I 've come across it termed in this way at any rate. This is good:
| Quote: | Dreaming Upside-Down
by Tom Peterson
I dreamed the other night that all the maps in the world had been turned upside down. Library atlases, roadmaps of Cincinnati, wall-sized maps in the war rooms of the great nations, even antique maps with such inscriptions as "Here be Dragons" were flipped over. What had been north was now south, east was west. Like a glob of melting vanilla ice cream, Antarctica now capped schoolroom globes.
In my dream, a cloud of anxieties closed around me. The United States was now at the bottom. Would we have to stand upside-down, causing the blood to rush to our heads? Would we need suction-cup shoes to stay on the planet, and would autumn leaves fall up? No, I remembered, an apple once bopped Newton on the head - no need to worry about these things.
Other things troubled me more. Now that we're at the bottom, would our resources and labor be exploited by the new top? Would African, Asian, and Latin American nations structure world trade to their advantage?
Would my neighbors and I have two-dollars-a-day seasonal jobs on peach and strawberry plantations? Would the women and children work from dusk to dawn to scratch survival from the earth of California and Virginia? Would the fruit we picked be shipped from New Orleans and New York for children in Thailand and Ethiopia to hurriedly eat with their cereal so they wouldn't miss the school bus? Would our children, then, spend the morning, not in school, but fetching water two miles away and the afternoon gathering wood for heating and cooking? Would a small ruling class in this country send their daughters and sons to universities in Cairo and Buenos Aires?
Would our economy be dependant upon the goodwill and whims of, say, Brazil? Would Brazil send war planes and guns to Washington, D.C. to assure our willingness to pick apples and tobacco for export while our children went hungry? Would Brazil and Vietnam fight their wars with our sons in our country? Would we consider revolution?
If we did revolt, would the Philippino government plot to put their favorite U.S. general in power, and then uphold him with military aid?
Would we work in sweatshops manufacturing radios for the Chinese? Would our oil be shipped in tankers to Southeast Asia to run their cars, air-conditioning and microwave ovens while most of our towns didn¹t even have electricity?
Would top of the world religious leaders call us stubborn pagans upon whom God¹s judgement had fallen, causing our misery? Would they proclaim from opulent pulpits that if we simply turned to God, our needs would be met?
In my dream, I saw child crying in Calcutta. Her parents wouldn't buy her any more video games until her birthday. I saw her mother drive to the supermarket and load her cart with frozen and junk food, vegetables, cheese, meat, and women's magazines.
I also saw a mother in Houston baking bread in an earthen oven. She had been crying because there were no more beans for her family. One of her children listlessly watched her. He was a blond boy, about six years old. He slowly turned his empty, haunting gaze toward me.
At that point I awoke with a gasp. I saw I was in my own bed, inmy own house. It was just a bad dream. I drifted back to sleep, thinking, "It¹s all right, I'm still on top."
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Forgive me if I suggest that a lot of what is being raked up here with all these nasty organisations may really all boil down to a world run on the basis of the survival of the "fittest" run like a school yard where the bullies are in charge and the majority of them male, aggressive, bullies at that - there is only so far that they can go on before "the fittest" destroy themselves and everyone else with them.
I am reading "the Da Vinci Code" and find it a lot better than I had imagined - although I don't think the whole thing boils down to whether "Jesus" was really married with six kids and lived in a council house! I think it all boils down to the fact that ultimately there has to be a blending of male and female, of East and West, and so on. On September 12th 2001 I had booked the day off and in between watching action re plays of those towers coming down over and over again and shaking my head thinking something "funny" is going on here, I put the radio on and listened ironically to "Womens Hour." There was an interview with people who had been in that Sahaj Yoga thing I had only just left and I can remember this woman with a really nice voice coming on and saying that she had said to her friend about "Mother" (symbolic for me now) "Oh haven't you realised yet who she is? She's the Holy Spirit!" I think she symbolises the kundalini energy that goes up the spine when one is spirittually awakened (it appears to have got stuck around the ears with me!).
I couldn't really "understand" what she meant at the time, but reading the Da Vinci Code and looking around me at the world as it is, I have remembered these words again - also those on a website I came across through those funny "coincidenes" I have seeming to involve Pink Floyd - The words are "Man - Spirit = Monster" and they are well worth some consideration!
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Top stuff Jane. The upside down world looks much better I think, growing upward rather than dripping downward! Google Coral Castle and then the Coral Castle Code, very good yes.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think the 9/11 movement is playing into their hands, as we tend to look for the root causes and those who are pulling the strings.
However the general anti-war left will willingly play into the hands of the globalists in reaction to US imperialism by demanding a one world socialist government, which is the main goal of the globalists.
The danger for us is that when the revoloution comes we will be left behind while the globalists unwitting minions (the left) do their bidding.
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