Peter Power Visor ex-Dorset police fraudster spotted

[zennon]

Anyone catch him on BBC News 24 on the day of the failed car bomb attempt in London? He was as introduced a "terrorism expert" (I bet he is) and said the usual Blairite nonsense about us being under constant threat etc.

This wasn't a short interview or anything, he was on and off for about 2 hours at least. While they showed live scenes he would talk over them, but we never actually got to see him in person. He wasn't over the phone or anything, but still no glimpse.

He was on BBC News again later talking live about the Glasgow incident which I've managed to scoop up from youtube:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ghY1WwgjHtA

[rodin]

Since you bring up the Glasgow incident - seems that like 9/11 3/11 and 7/7...

[TonyGosling]

Has anybody managed to work out the probability of 4 bombs going off on the same day and at the same locations as they actually did?

Bear in mind that there are 275 stations on the London Underground network.

And 2013 London bus stops are fitted with the digital countdown indicators

[TonyGosling]

With 275 stations, three bombs, 2013 bus stops and 365 days in the year I calculate a probability of one in a little over fifteen million million that Peter Power is telling the truth.

That is
One in 15,000,000,000,000 or
One in 1.5 x 10 to the power of thirteen

How disturbing it would be to bump into Peter Power on the London Underground. I'm not sure he should be approached.

[karlos]

We know that an Israeli Mossad front company were in charge of security of the London Underground during 7/7, we also know that all the key sites in the US involved during 911 were 'protected' by Marvin Bush's security company. But i have not heard any claims made about Madrid. I dont think the Spanish would be stupid enough to entrust their security to dodgy Israeli companies

Madrid was targetted for bombings by the Israelis because of two reasons
Firstly King Juan Carlos's visit to Damascus
Secondly Spains threat to Israel to reopen the Madrid conference.


Glasgow is irrelevant because there was no terrorist incident just a small fire drill/show.

[zennon]

[numeral]

[andyb]

If anyone can let me know where to find him I will confront him

[karlos]

[TonyGosling]

Why don't you google it?
or try here

http://www.londonbombs.org.uk

[TonyGosling]

Nice one Andy,

Here are your instructions... You should be able to find him here... but I advise you take Stelios along (as a minder) and several video cameramen

[zennon]

Powers was on Fridays Newsnight. Watch it here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/default.stm

He's about 6:30 minutes in.

[TonyGosling]

Was he defending the indefensible again?
Was he given ANY cross examination at all?
How come this 7,600 million to one shot gets national credibility but Newsnight won't talk to us?

[kbo234]

[TonyGosling]

I have revised this figure because it appears that Peter Power makes no claims about the bus bombing.

it's actually quite a bit less but still a lot, a lot, a lot.

275 x 275 x 275 x 365 = 7,600 million to one.

[Busker]

[Mark Gobell]

Yep it's him.

He was wheeled out on Friday night on the news too.

The other chap is the ex Chief Constable of Sussex Police who did the honourable thing and resigned after his force shot a man in his bed.

Mind you it took him 2 years to do so.

You listening Bliar and Dick ?

[zennon]

[zennon]

[zennon]

please delete

[Nick Cooper]

[karlos]

What information do you have that this was on office based exercise?

[Nick Cooper]

[karlos]

You made the initial statement, i assume as will every other reader that you have no proof other than your desire to spam the official conspiracy.

What in your view does "a series of drills" mean?

[ian neal]

[karlos]

sorry that is just a channel 4 comment, it is not a factual report nor does it explain the people being evacuated from their offices before the bus bomb or victoms appearing in tavistock place covered in foil blankets and like headband man who were quite obviously part of an exercise.

[ian neal]

True, it is not proof one way or the other. I was just ensuring you were aware of the reports that Visor Consultants said it was only a paper based exercise. Of course us mere mortals have no way of confirming this, but if campaigners are to claim it was more than this then the onus is on us to provide supporting evidence

[Alex_V]

I agree with Ian - more evidence required. Or even 'some' evidence required.

Power says in the same article that 100-ish such exercises probably happen every week. Presumably a very decent proportion of those happen in Central London. I think this is almost certainly a dead-end for investigation.

As an aside, I don't think that Marvin Bush claim is correct either.

[astro3]

Probabilty of Peter Power's Terror Drill Happening by Chance

Peter Powers claimed to have been conducting anti-terror drills at the same three tube stations as actually got targeted – on the same day, at the same time, by chance. How likely is that? There are 275 tube stations in London, and so here the sum is
3/275 x 2/274 x 1/273
or around one in three million. Then let us suppose, for the sake of argument, that two anti-terror drills are conducted per annum in London. If Power picked the correct day by chance for his exercise, that adds on a further 2/365 improbability factor, making a probability of chance occurrence of 1 in six hundred million (600,000,000)*.

Power explained how he happened to be conducting the anti-terror drill at the same time of day:
‘...at half-past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for, er, over, a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing upright!’

The Madrid bombs went off at 07.30 am and the 9/11 plane crashes happened at 08.45, while the Bologna train bomb of 1980 went of at 10.30 am, so one could take the view that terrorists are likely to choose this rush-hour time of the morning. Morning rush-hour could appear as an ‘expected’ period for train bombs to go off. Peter Power cited a time of 9.30, about half an hour after that which was being reported. Arbitrarily, we add in a very minimal factor of two for the likelihood of this time-of-day proximity.

This gives us an overall, best-estimate of over one in a billion. One could argue for a reduction of this value on the grounds that outer-London stations are less likely than the central London stations to be chosen. But, that’s a slippery slope: one could argue conversely that it is highly unlikely that Muslims would have chosen Edgware Road and Aldgate stations, given that these areas have notably high Muslim populations. Let’s just leave our equal-probability assumption unaltered, and that gives the likelihood of Peter Power’s statement at one in a billion.

* If Staraker is correct that terror-drills don't happen on weekends then this would reduce the odds. But I suggest its up to him to check that out on the basis of past terror-drills.

[paul wright]

I think that's about a thousand times more than they would choose to convict someone on DNA evidence of murder or rape. 1 in a million chance, I think they say