Neocon War Agenda - Sacrificing the Fifth Fleet?

[TonyGosling]

Iran: The Neocon Agenda to Sacrifice the Fifth Fleet – The New Pearl Harbor.!
http://www.voltairenet.org/article153013.html
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/05/24/1931993.htm

Michael Salla

The U.S. plans for an attack on Iran envision to sacrifice the Fifth Fleet in order to justify a nuclear retaliation. This is not a hypothetical scenario, but a real option being discussed within the U.S. Joint Chief of Staff cabinet. According to our sources, admiral William Fallon made clear that if such an order was given, he would refuse to follow it and would hand in his resignation along with the entire Centcom headquarter’s. So far only the Navy and Army’s superior officers’ resistance has prevented the neoconservatives and the Air Force to launch the operations.


http://uk.indymedia.org/en/2007/11/386461.html

The Bush administation has covered up and ignored dissenting Pentagon war games analysis that suggests an attack on Iran’s nuclear or military facilities will lead directly to the annihilation of the Navy’s Fifth Fleet now stationed in the Persian Gulf. Lt. General Paul Van Riper led a hypothetical Persian Gulf state in the 2002 Millennium Challenge wargames that resulted in the destruction of the Fifth Fleet. His experience and conclusions regarding the vulnerability of the Fifth Fleet to an assymetrical military conflict and the implications for a war against Iran have been ignored. Neoconservatives within the Bush administration are currently aggressively promoting a range of military actions against Iran that will culminate in it attacking the US Navy’s Fifth Fleet with sophisticated cruise anti-ship missiles. They are ignoring Van Riper’s experiences in the Millennium Challenge and how it applies to the current nuclear conflict with Iran.

Iran has sufficient quantities of cruise missiles to destroy much or all of the Fifth Fleet which is within range of Iran’s mobile missile launchers strategically located along its mountainous terrain overlooking the Persian Gulf. The Bush administration is deliberately downplaying the vulnerability of the Fifth Fleet to Iran’s advanced missile technology which has been purchased from Russia and China since the late 1990’s. The most sophisticated of Iran’s cruise missiles are the ‘Sunburn’ and ‘Yakhonts’. These are missiles against which U.S. military experts conclude modern warships have no effective defense. By deliberately provoking an Iranian retaliation to U.S. military actions, the neoconservatives will knowingly sacrifice much or all of the Fifth Fleet. This will culminate in a new Pearl Harbor that will create the right political environment for total war against Iran, and expanded military actions in the Persian Gulf region.

The Fifth Fleet’s Vulnerability to Iran’s Anti-Ship Missile Arsenal

The U.S. Navy Fifth Fleet is headquartered in the Gulf State of Bahrain which is responsible for patrolling the Persian Gulf, Arabian Sea, Suez Canal and parts of the Indian Ocean. The Fifth Fleet currently comprises a carrier group and two helicopter carrier ships..............................

Michael Salla
- Homepage: http://www.voltairenet.org/article153013.html

[outsider]

I've sent this; it bounced, but I've tried another route, hopefully it gets to Mr. Salla.

Hi Mr. Salla,

Re your article on the possibility of the Fifth Fleet being used as a 'sacrificial lamb' to invite nuclear 'retaliation' on Iran....Could I respectfully suggest you read 'Day of Deceit' by Robert B. Stinnett, 'Operation Cyanide' by Peter Hounam (the guy that broke Mordechai Vanunu's story of Israel's nuclear arsenal) and also the September 2,000 report by Project for the New American Century called 'Rebuilding America's Defenses', (freely downloadable from net).
I am not in the slightest questioning your expertise, but I know that if you haven't already read these books and report, you should because they are extremely important in your field.

Yours respectfully,

[outsider]

And this, to ICH Comments (with similar comment to Fisk article) -

Bravo, Noam. Not perfect, but pretty darned good. Now I know 911 is to big a step for you at present, so instead, would you PLEASE read 'Rebuilding America's Defenses', a report by 'The Project for the New American Century' September 2000. It's freely available to download from the web.
Re some comments on the Fifth Fleet being used as a sacrificial lamb, sent to the slaughter to justify a larger, probably nuclear attack, come on now, the US Administration would never indulge in such a dastardly crime, surely? OK, you can point to the sending of a small cavalry force into Mexican territory to be massacred, to justify the annexation of Texas and California, but that was years ago. Pearl? Sure, but the ends justified the means, no? Gulf of Tonkin? Just a slip-up, faulty radar blips. USS Liberty? That was that kook LBJ. Nah, Bushco are far more principalled than to sacrifice those gallant guys and gals of the Fifth Fleet. (DON'T EVEN MENTION (9/11), PLEASE!!).

[rodin]

Kill 2 birds with one stone. Iran and America. All in a days work for the collectivists.

Most recent false flag I know of in Mexican territory was when 2 Israelis tried to blow up the Parliament after 911

[Bongo]

Who the heck is Michael Salla ???

For one thing he is full of dis-info trash.

Do you honestly think you could predict the form of a false flag op? By it's very nature, a false flag is a surprise event and remains a secret of the masterminds until it's execution.

[Mark Gobell]

[TonyGosling]

Who the hell is Bongo?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaire_Network
This has been put out by the Voltaire Network.

Maybe you've heard of its president Thierry Meyssan? If not you should read some of his stuff.

[Bongo]

No need to swear Tony.

The US are not about to have the 5th Fleet obliterated.

The US are definately trading Jabs with Iran, but they will not use Nukes. FACT. If they did, they would have chaos around the world as no-one would accept it.

So stop being silly.

[TonyGosling]

Check this through and you'll see that they don't need to use nukes to begin with. The scenario is a follows...

1. bomb Iranian reactor
2. blow up 8 of their own ships
3. THEN nuke Iran

Please give us your insight as to how and why the French 911 Truth network, the most credible in Europe, have got this so very wrong?

[outsider]

[Bongo]

It doesn't matter how horrible the atrocities are which the NWO have carried out and in turn got away with... my point is that there is a particular global mindset with regards the use of Nuclear weapons and I guarantee that all hell (oops I swore like Tony sorry) will break out among the people of the world if they did.

The NWO would be cutting their own throats even contemplating it publically. It's a non-starter.

[TonyGosling]

Let's hope so!

[outsider]

[Bongo]

[TonyGosling]

The USA, it appears, is being sacrificed by the NWO to kill several birds with one stone, here are two.

1. get rid of millions of the world's people as part of the eugenics depopulation agenda

2. create a crisis big enough to justify a complete overhaul of the world system and introduce world government and a man made world religion to get rid of the Koranic (hence the attack on Islam) and Bibllical rules for ever.

Only one rather large problem.
Its a fundamentally flawed plan.
See - http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm