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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:24 am    Post subject: Ramping up the fear levels Reply with quote

Just wondering.

New UBL message due

Teacher arrested in Sudan in shaggy teddy bear "Mohammed" story

Lorry drivers tell immigration officials of illegal immigrants

John Bolton - EU diplomacy not working on Iran

French cops mow down two people, Paris in flames once again

Watch this space . . .

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:30 am    Post subject: Uhhh Ahhh.... Reply with quote

Wrong!!!!

See http://uk.news.yahoo.com/skynews/20071127/tuk-christmas-warning-over-d anger-toy-re-45dbed5.html
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's about plastic toys ???
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard this.
Yes scare mongering and doing their best to keep dividing and conquering. These people who write/select these stories are scum. Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Dangerous toys... Reply with quote

Mark Gobell wrote:
That's about plastic toys ???


Mark, quite clearly you are unaware of the extreme dangers of plastic toys!! To read the article, we have descriptive words such as "at risk from dangerous toys", "because of fears", "Buyers should be wary", "scandal" & " So how do you know if a toy you bought is dangerous?". The young parents are given yet another worry to keep their children shielded from.

Surely the media are not hyperventilating over all this, are they?

I wonder just how I managed to survive my 54 years of age through all the "dangerous" toys I played with as a kid!! Old metal Dinky cars, Corgi toys, broken Meccano sets, sharp dangerous model knives, fume laden glues, lead paint, metal parts, old beaten up plastic Airfix planes which we threw into the air hoping they'd fly (I was the British pilot, my Brother the German) etc etc. Hell, we even had old dandys on the roads. Anyone remember those?? Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first thoughts on this story when it broke weeks ago was, naturally, China.

Stop buying cheap Chinese goods.

Is that a realistic interpretation of the completely obvious?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gordon Brown under pressure from all angles at home.

David Miliband on his charger, racing to the rescue of Gillian Gibbons.

Am I reading this right?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Dangerous toys... Reply with quote

spiv wrote:
Mark Gobell wrote:
That's about plastic toys ???


Mark, quite clearly you are unaware of the extreme dangers of plastic toys!! To read the article, we have descriptive words such as "at risk from dangerous toys", "because of fears", "Buyers should be wary", "scandal" & " So how do you know if a toy you bought is dangerous?". The young parents are given yet another worry to keep their children shielded from.

Surely the media are not hyperventilating over all this, are they?

I wonder just how I managed to survive my 54 years of age through all the "dangerous" toys I played with as a kid!! Old metal Dinky cars, Corgi toys, broken Meccano sets, sharp dangerous model knives, fume laden glues, lead paint, metal parts, old beaten up plastic Airfix planes which we threw into the air hoping they'd fly (I was the British pilot, my Brother the German) etc etc. Hell, we even had old dandys on the roads. Anyone remember those?? Razz

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Miliband tried to stop Muslim peers rescuing the teddy bear teacher from Sudanese jail

By SIMON WALTERS - More by this author » Last updated at 23:59pm on 8th December 2007

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Foreign Secretary David Miliband tried to stop the mission by two Muslim peers who rescued British teacher Gillian Gibbons from jail in Sudan, it has been claimed.

Mr Miliband also objected to the involvement of Tory Baroness Warsi because, as a frontbench spokeswoman, she had no right to take part.

In the event, Labour's Lord Ahmed and Baroness Warsi defied the Foreign Office and flew to Sudan at their own expense to win the release of Mrs Gibbons who was imprisoned for allowing Sudanese schoolchildren to name a teddy bear Mohammed.

Saviour: Gillian Gibbons with Lord Ahmed who, as he waited for Foreign Office clearance, exclaimed: 'Damn it! I'm going whether the Foreign Office likes it or not.'

The Foreign Office told them they were doing so at their own risk, the British Government could not be expected to bail them out if it went wrong – and they would get only limited support from the British embassy.

Diplomatic sources said that earlier, the Foreign Office had urged them not to go and that a senior aide to Mr Miliband dismissed the need to free Mrs Gibbons, saying it would be easier to let her serve the jail sentence in full.

Yet their mission was urgent. Last night Mrs Gibbons told of her fear of being raped by her guards while in jail.

She said her greatest worry was that her guards would "teach the blaspheming white woman a lesson – that they would rape me or hit me".

She said she felt as if she had been "run over by ten juggernauts" when sentenced to 15 days in jail.

The Mail on Sunday was told that hours before the two peers were due to fly to Sudan the trip was in danger of being called off because the Foreign Office had not given the go-ahead.

As he waited in vain to hear from the FO, Lord Ahmed exploded in rage, saying: "Damn it, I am going whether the Government wants me to or not."

"Both Lord Ahmed and Baroness Warsi felt let down," said one source. "They were prepared to take a huge gamble at considerable risk to themselves because it was the only chance of getting Mrs Gibbons out safely.

"They were told the trip would never succeed, that Ahmed should not take a Conservative front-bencher and that it might make things worse.

"The Foreign Office said it should be carried out by an official delegation but that would have taken weeks and Mrs Gibbons would still be in jail.

"They put up objection after objection and seemed totally unable to make any decision.

"William Hague and David Cameron immediately saw the potential of the trip and acted decisively as the Foreign Office dithered."

Obstructive: Foreign Secretary Ed Miliband tried to stop the mission to rescue Gillian Gibbons and objected to the involvement of Tory Baroness Warsi

At one point a Foreign Office official dismissed the urgent need to get Mrs Gibbons out, saying: "She'll be out in a few days anyway." Insiders contrasted Mr Miliband's sceptical approach to the enthusiastic support for the trip by Mr Hague and Tory leader Mr Cameron.

After being telephoned in the US by Baroness Warsi, the two Tories immediately interrupted a trip to Washington to meet President George Bush and contacted Mr Miliband to plead with him to back the rescue mission.

Mr Miliband questioned whether a Tory front-bencher should be involved. Mr Hague said protocol should be set aside to help Mrs Gibbons.

Lord Ahmed, who initiated the mission as a result of established links with the Sudanese government, invited Baroness Warsi after the Sudanese told him that for religious reasons, they would prefer to hand over Mrs Gibbons to a female Muslim Parliamentarian.

When the peers arrived in Khartoum, the capital of Sudan, they clashed with president Omar al Bashir when they told him people in Britain did not understand why Mrs Gibbons had been imprisoned over such a trivial matter.

The president criticised anti-terror laws in Britain and America, saying: "You support the detention of people without trial. At least Mrs Gibbons was tried in a court of law. That does not always happen in Britain."

The Sudanese also complained that Britain had detained two Sudanese citizens on terror charges without trial. When Lord Ahmed volunteered to urge the Government to send them back to Khartoum, the Sudanese backed off.

He also had a heated debate with Muslim scholars who said they would not allow insults against Islam by foreigners. "Do not tell me what is offensive to Muslims," he said. "I am a Muslim and can judge as well as you what is and is not offensive.

"We live in a multi-cultural society and respect all religions."

A Foreign Office source said: "It is not true that we tried to block the trip. In the end it all worked out brilliantly but it wasn't always clear that it was going to do so and we had to point out the risks.

"It wasn't a question of whether we were supportive or not, it was a self-financed private initiative."


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