BBC World reported WTC7 collapse before it happened

[Bongo]

I have got some bad news guys!

Just got up after a good sleep and have reviewed the video in the light of day and I have to say this...

"9/11 WAS A F***ING INSIDE JOB"

Andrew,

[Craig W]

This could be MASSIVE, if the tape can be verified as real and if the time can be verified as pre-WTC7 collapse.

Tell everyone you know, especially the media, and let's see what is teh official response.

This could be a MASSIVE opportunity.

Thanks to everyone posting their links.

Now get out there and spread the word.

[Graham]

they show WTC7 collapsing 3 minutes into the next section.. so about 17.40 NY time.

Also noted... FBI agents (yes in there jackets) dragging eyewitnesses away from reporters.

[IronSnot]

Tele's right.

Too easy.

[andrewwatson]

Too easy?

Too true, more like.

[Graham]

[peloloco]

Amazing! How will they explain this one away?

Another truth arrow into the chest of the the beast methinks.

Building 7 is a great big smoking gun



al

[Craig W]

I don't want to pour cold water on this but is there anything to stop the BBC simply saying she had been told WTC7 was expected to collapse and got her wires crossed?

"There was a lot going on that day, journalists were overwhelmed with information, etc?"

Could she simply have made a mistake?

[Busker]

Does anyone know the legal status of BBC World as an entity?

Is it just a channel of the BBC?

Is it a commercial organisation?

I seem to remember something about a commercial arm of the BBC but I can't quite remember.

Thanks.

[andrewwatson]

[Sinclair]

Some background verification info (from a search on Jane Standley/BBC).

A synopsis of a BBC programme BBC NEWS: AMERICA UNDER SIEGE BBC NEWS SPECIAL, broadcast from 8.30pm to 10pm on BBC1, in the UK on the evening of 11th September 2001 (transmission details here), lists that the programme contains Jane Standley reports live from New York , so we know that she was reporting live from New York on the day.

(Note that this is not the BBC World transmission broadcast as contained on the GoogleVideo link, but it would no doubt include some of the same footage etc)


From the summary page
http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/title/718689

[QuitTheirClogs]

7 minute clip of Jane Standley on YouTube – runs up to the live link being cut

This is the interview from BBC world of Jane Standley talking with Philip Hayton, reporting the collapse of the Salomon Brothers Building(WTC 7), before it has collapsed. Notice how they are reporting that it has already collapsed, when it is clearly smoking in the background.

At 02:20 in the video, notice the bottom of the screen, it says "The 47 storey Salomon Brothers Building close to the World Trade Centre has also collapsed." Then look over her shoulder, to your right, and see the building still standing there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlFDd5Yjn3w&eurl

[andrewwatson]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/260207building7.htm


these are working

[Sinclair]

[Busker]

[Craig W]

[telecasterisation]

[hampton]

sorry, how will they explain not showing the collapse until after it really happened. surely with all the cameras there that day, including jane's, they would have been able to show the collapse, especially as they were forewarned.

[Skeptic]

Does anyone have any more info on this 'sister building' of WTC7?

[The Watcher]

Skeptic asked:

[Skeptic]

Oh ok thanks.

Someone on this forum mentioned a sister building, hence my question.

Just trying to ascertain whether that is actually WTC7 in the background.

[andrewwatson]

I don't understand why there is not more interest in this story. I seem to be in a minority. I have emailed a lot of people in the UK truth movement and no-one seems to think this is worth 'having a go for' apart from Ian Crane who says we should all write as individuals.

I have just sent this email to seven national newspapers:

BBC 'predicted' fall of 3rd World Trade Center building by 30 mins

To: news@channel4.com


This is truly an astounding story.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/260207building7.htm

Nobody knew that the 'Salomon Building' , or WTC7, a
47-storey skyscraper that was damaged by the fall of
the Town Towers, was going to collapse until
a few moments before. A general warning was issued
minutes before it collapsed suddenly in 6.5 seconds
that it was going to come down. It was only the third
steel-framed building in history to collapse due to
fire.

Yet this video has surfaced, showing a reporter
standing in front of the building and saying it has
already collapsed.

The BBC must explain what happened, or risk permanent
damage to their reputation for accuracy and
impartiality.

Andrew Lowe Watson

Norwich


Does no-one else think this is a huge opportunity to show their complicity? I cannot see how they could claim it was error when the building was clearly visible behind her. At the very least it shows gross incompetence, but potentially far worse.

Is this movement suffering from exhaustion/demoralization after the lack of press coverage for Rodriguez and the BBc hit-piece?

We can't afford to let go now. We need clear guidance from the leading names in UK Truth.

[tomi01uk]

Firemen and police reported in their interviews that you can read as they are archived that just after 12 noon they were informed that the wwc 7 would be "coming down" and to clear the area and keep people away. This is on record by those who were there.

So, what this mistake by BBC could show is that there was a report that the building had collapsed before it was possibly "scheduled" to collapse. Assuming the correct time line is established, it shows knowledge of a planned or assumed collapse of this building.

[Craig W]

Double posted - sorry

[Craig W]

The following is an excerpt from the Loosechange forum. The emboldened part is a quote from one member and what follows is my response.

(Here is the link: http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=450 7&st=0&#entry12364606 )

QUOTE (miragememories @ Feb 26 2007, 04:47 PM)
I think too much is getting read into this.

Clearly this report was rushed to air before any research had been done. It's likely all the repeated 'on-the-street' reports about the imminent collapse of WTC7 eventually got distorted by a reporter, and "gonna collapse" became "did collapse."

It was a major gaff on the BBC's part for sure, especially given the fact that no one immediately identified the burning building behind their 'live' reporter as the 'still standing' WTC7 building which she was claiming had already collapsed. Since it was the last major standing structure still pouring out heavy smoke on the site, you'd think they might have checked it's identity..amazing..unbelievably poor work on their part.

You would have thought in the roughly 7 hours that passed after the collapse of WTC1, that the BBC Research Dept. would have located maps and visuals of the area so they would be familiar with what they were seeing in their 'live' feed, or, duh..had there on-the-scene people find out for them..I guess they figured that the clearly viewable smoking 47-storey building in their live feed must have been WTC7a, WTC7's twin tower?

It's also pathetic that no one at the BBC seemed to wonder why none of their satellite feeds from the major American TV networks were reporting such a major event. Did they not ask themselves how odd it was that no one but their on-the-scene reporter noticed the sudden collapse of this 47-storey building?

Talk about extremely sloppy..maybe it will damage their credibility regarding the recent 9/11 'hit piece'?

MM


I am afraid I agree - the BBC has a very easy "get-out" here (and it may well be true):

"We made a mistake. Our reporters had heard that WTC7 was unstable and was expected to collapse soon and somehow got our wires crossed.

We simply didn't realise that the building smouldering in the background on the live feed was WTC7.

I am sure we all remember how intense and confusing the day's events were. There was a lot going on and a lot of reports flying around. It was very difficult to keep on top of the story and verify facts.

We have to admit we got this one wrong. We should have checked it out."

This could also explain the "mysterious" end to the transmission - maybe someone realised they were wrong and "pulled it" LOL.

The only thing one could say against that explanation is:

"Did you not think there would be pictures of this collapse - given the numbers of cameras filming the events? And would it not have been appropriate to have shown them alongside the report?"

But the BBC could reply:

"We didn't know which building this was or how major it was and had no reason to look for footage of its collapse. We had never even heard of the 'Salomon Building'. Had we known the size of the building we might have checked it out better."

After my initital excitement, I now feel this does not add up to very much.

[Wokeman]

Andrew,
I believe we should show caution. Not that I'm not as thrilled as anyone that Auntie Beeb should present us with such a bumper pre-Easter gift. But just suppose it isn't? And by some means or other, we are made to look total idiots. That's what we have to consider and make damned sure that this footage is authentic.

[blackcat]

[Serge]

A little surprised that nobody appears to have picked up on what was happening to the WTC7 building behind her though... maybe it has been noticed, just that nobody thought to mention it, but those small explosions taking place in the exact location of where the building kinks at the time of its collapse. More evidence in the video than just the timing...

[Craig W]

[andrewwatson]

Agreed we should check on the veracity of the clip before going further.

However, it is worth asking why Google and others pulled the story off so quickly. Are they trying to lure us into a trap?

It's possible.

WTC7 is itself a huge smoking gun. Here you have a building almost the size of the NatWest Tower falling straight down in 6.5 seconds. Come on!
If this is genuine, it is inconceivable that the firemen could have expected it to fall the way it did, or indeed to collapse at all, half an hour before it did.
Just remember that no other steel-framed building has collapsed due tp fire at any other time or place in history.