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Follow us on http://twitter.com/RT_com and http://www.facebook.com/RTnews Norwegian police say at least 84 people have been killed in a shooting spree at a youth camp on the island of Utoya, near the capital Oslo. The attack came shortly after a powerful blast shook the government centre in downtown Oslo, claiming at least seven lives. A 32-year-old Norweigan man has been arrested in Norway, in connection with the dual attacks.
_________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
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I don't care if some of you get offended by me telling the TRUTH - The terrorist who shook Norway is a Christian fundamentalist, freemason. It is not a cheap point or low blow to say it's Christian terrorism when the b****** is using Christianity to justify his actions!
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We need to repeat this truth until the people starts acknowledging the threat Christian fundamentalists actually are. Just look to USA, they have a long tradition of having fascist Christians ( the Bush family) in charge of their politics, and the world is paying the cost by innocent lives being taken all over the globe. Timothy McVeigh was a Christian fascist as well.
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Stop acting like an ostrich, Christian extremism is just as dangerous as islamism. But that thought makes people uncomfortable, coz it is so much easier to fear the unknown, unfamiliar - than recognizing the beast within their own societies.
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Philip, how this could happen here - is our very own fault, for shutting our eyes and ears to what danger the christian fascism is all about. We let this happen, we let FrP - a Christian fascist party- become the 4th largest political party. We let it happen by not having right wing extremists under observation, and just watching communists and muslims. We did this to ourselves.
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Philip, I am watching the Norwegian news, I just watched an interwiew with his defence lawyer who says that the perp is claiming to uphold Christian values, and that we need a revolution.
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He used fertilizer and diesel bomb, which he placed in a rented van. He spent 9 years preparing for it. Rhe buildings were almost empty, coz everybody is on holiday and he detonated it 30 minutes after the regular office hours was over. I'll give proper answers later, but the kids needs me now
9 years Ha? Must be a beginner lol Muslims do it within hours _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
Sounds he was a Christian Fundamentalist :0 but then someone organised his bomb?. Oh and he is a Mason. Oh and so many reasons for Israel to do it, but are they that stupid? If anything that could speed up Northern Europe's betrayal of Israel. Hmm now could that be a plot within a plot? That's just say not all Christians are happy with Judaism :0 _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
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“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
The security services took one and a half hours to arrive on the island.
A contact, with links to Norway, writes:
1. Street-talk from Norway:
Breivik has a farm in Ostre Asta, near Oslo.
The farm is in the rough area of the biggest top specialist elite military complex in Norway: Norway's special forces.
2. It seems all those in charge of the camp bar one weren't on the island, but in the hotel.
And the one on the island was the first person OFF it the instant the shooting started, he 'luckily' having a motorboat handy.
Quiet a few on the island were so drunk they had no chance, others were literally caught with their pants down.
3. The moment Breivik saw the security services on the way in, he laid the weapon down, hands on head, and surrendered.
4. The ferry-man has said Breivik told him there were several other 'policemen' on the way.
A security-guard was on the island quay with a car.
Breitvik's very heavy sport-bag was loaded into it and they drove off.
A minute or so later the ferryman heard the first shot.
5. It has again come up there was another killer, who might have arrived in a boat on the other side of the island, 'a man with dark long hair in civilian clothes'.
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"The witnesses described the second man as a 180-centimeter tall, dark-haired man with Nordic appearance with 'a pistol in his right hand and a rifle on his back.'"
(At least two terrorists behind Norwegian youth camp massacre ...)
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Breivik's father worked as a diplomat for the Royal Norwegian Embassy in London (and later Paris).
His mother was a nurse.
He has two half-brothers and two half-sisters, from the previous marriages of his parents.
His parents divorced when he was one year old.
He and his mother together with his half-sister moved from London back to Oslo.[3]
Breivik grew up in the affluent west-end of Oslo.
He attended Smestad Grammar School, Ris Junior High, Hartvig Nissen High School and Oslo Commerce School.
He took online study courses on Small Business Management at American InterContinental University.[3]
A former classmate has recalled that he was an intelligent student who often took care of people who were bullied.[39]
A former co-worker has described him as an "exceptional colleague" without racist tendencies.[40]
Breivik completed his service in the Norwegian Army,[41] and studied at the BI Norwegian School of Management.[42]
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Good stuff Aangirfan. Take a look at this blatant piece of propaganda over at Foreign Policy:
"Oddly, despite his evident hatred of Muslims and Arabs, "Berwick" professes admiration for al Qaeda, which he lists as one of only two "successful militant organisations" due to its "superior structural adaptation."
"If Muhammad was alive today," he writes, "Usama Bin Laden would have been his second in command."
Elsewhere, he cites al Qaeda's training manual as a reference, and declares, "Just like Jihadi warriors are the plum tree of the Ummah, we will be the plum tree for Europe and for Christianity."
In another eerie parallel, he also calls for suicidal operations in service of the larger cause: "Let us be perfectly clear; if you are unwilling to martyr yourself for the cause, then the PCCTS, Knights Templar is not for you."
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Be prepared for bad things to start happening in Norway.
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Be prepared for bad things to start happening in Norway.
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I did not spot the above error!
Clarification: Norway is not a member state of the European Union (EU), but is closely associated with the Union through its membership in the European Economic Area (EEA).
Published on Sunday, 17th July, 2011 at 13:27 under the news category, by John Price.
Palestinian leader President Mahmoud Abbas is in Norway, Monday, for a working lunch with FM Jonas Gahr Støre to discuss the peace process and the current situation in Palestine.
Jonas Gahr Støre and Mahmoud Abbas
Jonas Gahr Støre and Mahmoud Abbas
Photo: Ministry of Foreign Affairs/Flickr
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs says Palestinian President is also to meet the government’s foreign affairs and defence committee, signing a pledge to improve relations between the both countries.
Minister Støre last met with President Abbas in January when they discussed Palestine’s situation with Israel.
Both nations have also held other positive meetings in the past. It was announced last year the Palestinians were to get their own embassy in Oslo.
Moreover, ex Norway Prime Minister Kåre Willoch was recently granted a Palestinian passport, joining in the alliance with some other nations, when he expressed his sympathy with Palestinians and their situation.
“I have gradually become aware of the very grave injustice that the Palestinians have been subjected to, and that virtually the entire Western world has responsibility for this,” he told NRK at the time.
Dr. Colin Poole, head of surgery at Ringriket Hospital in Honefoss northwest of Oslo, told The Associated Press the gunman used special bullets designed to disintegrate inside the body and cause maximum internal damage. Poole said surgeons treating 16 gunshot victims have recovered no full bullets.
"These bullets more or less exploded inside the body," Poole said. "It's caused us all kinds of extra problems in dealing with the wounds they cause, with very strange trajectories."
Ballistics experts say the so-called dum-dum bullets also are lighter in weight and can be fired with greater accuracy over varying distances.
We had fake islamic terrorism in the form of Al Quaeda which launched the war on terror and bankrupted America, we now appear to be having fake nationalist terrorism to roll out world government...
The bombs in Oslo are probably related to the newstory below...
Russia and Norway end historic dispute over Arctic border
07 July, 2011
A 40-year-long Arctic border conflict between Russia and Norway is
officially over.
A treaty dividing an area half the size of Germany in the Barents Sea
came into force today.
In 1980, Russia and Norway agreed to stop looking for oil and gas in
the disputed area until a settlement had been reached.
AN INTERNATIONAL STUDY SAYS THE TERRITORY CONTAINS UP TO 30 PERCENT OF
THE WORLD'S OIL AND GAS RESOURCES. NORWAY SAYS IT WILL BEGIN
EXPLORATION IMMEDIATELY.
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:18 am Post subject:
Dont know how true this is but claims of gunmans 2 different facebook pages-one saying he is a conservative christian the other making no mention of it.
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The 3 Big Questions About Anders Behring Breivik’s Facebook Profile
1: Why is there a version of Anders Behring Breivik’s Facebook profile not showing Christian / Conservative? Even Google’s cache of the Facebook profile retrieved on Jul 22, 2011 23:52:36 GMT supports this factor.
2: How was Christian / Conservative added prior to the profile being removed from Facebook? If our PDF was printed out/saved at Jul 23 01:39 GMT, and the profile was deleted soon afterwards by Facebook, how was a detained Anders Behring Breivik able to change it?
3: Which then needs to be asked, Who had access to in changing the Profile before it was removed? Or is this theorya possible explanation?
Fragmentation bullets also make ballistic matching impossible, concealing the presence of multiple guns and multiple shooters.
Work of crazy Lone Gunman? Where have I heard that before?
We need to see a map of the island and distribution of victims. And a timeline. We've already seen one long range photo - how was that done? Where were the Police in reacting to this?
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:56 pm Post subject: norawy attacker - a freemason
from www.darkpolitics.com
you can see the picture of him in his freemasons uniform
There is a pdf of Breivik’s Facebook page hosted on Solid Principals Blog. Facebook was the source of the image on Daily Mail. Here is how how it appeared on Facebook. looks like fbook has taken his account down. so next time we have to be quick to get the info from fbook
Was Norway Killer Anders Behring Breivik a Freemason? 230711breivik
Some people are claiming this is a photoshop, but if it is then it must have been done by Breivik himself, because it was posted on his original Facebook and is now being used by mainstream newspapers like the Daily Mail.
Breivik also included Freemasons on his list of interests.
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_________________ "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" Martin Luther king
Anders Behring Breivik: a disturbing ideology
Jody McIntyre
By Jody McIntyre
The Foreign Desk
Monday, 25 July 2011 at 5:09 pm
RTR2P9X5 300x294 Anders Behring Breivik: a disturbing ideologyA bomb goes off at the office of the Norwegian Prime Minister’s office. Hours later, a lone gunman goes on a killing spree on the island of Utoya. The news are quick to pin the blame to Al-Qa’ida, or in fact, any Muslims. Kurdish organisations, Muammer Gaddafi and Afghanis are mentioned. All without a shred of evidence. Another terrorist attack. Or as Murdoch’s Sun newspaper ran with the following morning, “Norway’s 9/11”.
But something didn’t add up. The only person to be arrested was a white man with blonde hair, or “apparently blonde” hair, who spoke fluent Norwegian. The obvious signs were pointing towards the far right. Sky News’ analysis amounted to, ‘he could be an Islamic convert’. Despite the revelation of Anders Behring Breivik’s identity, the Sun continued with it’s front page splash, tactfully removing the planned sub-heading of “Al-Qa’ida Massacre”.
Gradually, the Sky News hawks, as political hip-hop artist Lowkey summarised on his Twitter feed, began to “swallow their propaganda”. Pure racism and Islamophobia, exposed for what they were. This terrorist attack did not fit the desired narrative.
Possible motives for the Breivik massacre began to emerge. Images of the Norwegian ruling party’s youth camp on the island of Utoya were published online, where, just days before the attack, teenagers had met with Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Stoere. They had demanded the government recognise a Palestinian state. One photograph shows the Foreign Minister in the foreground, with a banner held up in the background reading “Boikott Israel”. Boycott Israel.
A manifesto, written by Breivik, was also discovered. The 1500 page document, entitled “A European Declaration of Independence”, reveals a troubling ideology. “Let us fight together with Israel,” Breivik writes, “with our Zionist brothers against all anti-Zionists.” In a section headed “Controversial principles”, the manifesto continues:
Supports the deportation of all Muslims from Europe Pro-Israel (pro-Zionism/Israeli nationalism, supports the deportation of Muslims from theWest Bank and the Gaza strip) Pro-Boer/Afrikaner (supporting a partition of South Africa into two parts).
The section also lists China, India, the Phillipines and Sri Lanka as countries that all Muslims should be deported from. Above the section is a quote from John Law:
“Before we can do anything, there must be a we.”
According to the mainstream media, this “we” does not exist. Breivik was a lone psychopath, and the attack was a complete surprise. The truth is, the twisted ideology he so violently put into action is one that is aided by Cameron’s speeches against multiculturalism, Theresa May’s war-mongering rhetoric and attempts to deport pro-Palestinian activists, and the EDL’s violent demonstrations on the streets. Unless we challenge this ideology in all contexts, people with Breivik’s mind-set will continue to gain confidence.
by craig on July 25, 2011 1:39 pm in Uncategorized
Last night two masked men in military uniform shot dead a 27 year old man in his home in Sandnes, Norway. Nowhere in the mainstream media can I find anybody wondering whether this is related to the massacre in Norway the day before – even though both were killings with guns, (very rare in Norway), and either this guy really was assassinated by soldiers, or both were carried out in false uniform.
Have I turned into a crazed conspiracy theorist, or is this lack of curiosity a little bit strange?
UPDATE
Can this second incident the same weekend in Norway of armed killers in uniforms relate in any way to the “two other cells” of which Breivik spoke in court? I am not claiming to know the answers, but there seem to me obvious questions here and I don’t understand why the media is not asking them.
STUKKET AV: Politi og ambulanser i boligstrøket i Sandnes der skyteepisoden skjedde. Husene i bakgrunnen har ikke noe med skyteepisoden å gjøre. Foto: Ronny Hjertås
(VG Nett) 27-åringen fra Sandnes som ble skutt i sitt eget hjem søndag kveld døde senere av skadene.
Politiet opplyser at skuddofferet er en 27 år gammel mann. Han ble fraktet til Stavanger Universitetssykehus etter å ha blitt skutt i hodet, og døde senere av skadene.
To maskerte menn i militærklær skal ha tatt seg inn 27-åringens hjem på Lura i Sandnes. Det skal ha blitt avfyrt ett skudd rundt klokken 19.50 søndag kveld.
- Menneskene som oppsøkte avdøde kom angivelig kjørende i en mørk stasjonsvogn, forteller operasjonsleder ved Rogaland Politidistrikt, Kjetil Føyen, til VG Nett.
Rogaland Politidistrikt har iverksatt full drapsetterforskning og er interesserte i opplysninger fra publikum.
- Han ble skutt av for politiet ukjente personer, sier Føyen.
Ifølge Rogalands Avis fikk politiet melding om hendelsen 19.53.
Run off: Police and ambulances in the residential district in Sandnes, where the shooting occurred. The houses in the background has nothing to do with shooting to do. Photo: Ronny Hjertås
(AP) 27-year-old from Sandnes, who was shot in his home on Sunday evening died later of his injuries.
Content of the article Including fact boxes Article text Police said the shooting victim is a 27-year-old man. He was transported to Stavanger University Hospital after being shot in the head and later died of his injuries.
Two masked men in military clothing should be taken into 27-year-old home of Lura, Sandnes, Norway. It should have been fired one shot at about 19.50 on Sunday night.
- People who saw the deceased was allegedly driving a dark station wagon, says operations manager at Rogaland Police District, Kjetil Føyen, to VG Nett.
Rogaland Police District has launched a full murder investigation and are interested in information from the public.
- He was shot by the police unknown persons, said Føyen.
According Rogaland Avis got the police statement about the incident 19.53
Politi og ambulanse rykket ut til en adresse på Lura etter melding om skyting kom klokken 19.53 søndag.
En 27 år gammel mann er fraktet til Stavanger universitetssjukehus med skuddskade i hodet.
Mannens tilstand blir betegnet som kritisk og ustabil.
Mannen døde senere av skadene.
Gjerningspersoner som oppsøkte avdøde, benyttet ifølge vitner en mørk stasjonsvogn, melder politiet.
– Rogaland politidistrikt har iverksatt full drapsetterforskning, og er interessert i opplysninger fra publikum, melder operasjonsleder Kjetil Føyen i Rogaland politidistrikt.
Det vil ikke bli gitt ytterligere opplysninger før tidligst kl. 11.00 mandag.
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Police and ambulance went out to an address on Lura notice of shooting
arrived at 19.53 on Sunday.
A 27-year-old man is transported to Stavanger University Hospital with
shot injury to the head.
The man's condition is described as critical and unstable.
The man later died of his injuries.
Offenders who went to the deceased, used according to witnesses a dark
station wagon, according to police.
- Wellington Police have launched a full murder investigation, and
interested in information from the public, according to operations manager Kjetil Føyen
Rogaland Police District.
It will not be given further information at the earliest. 11.00
Monday.
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:19 pm Post subject:
Charlie Brooker assessment of Norway massacre news coverage
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I went to bed in a terrible world and awoke inside a worse one. At the time of writing, details of the Norwegian atrocity are still emerging, although the identity of the perpetrator has now been confirmed and his motivation seems increasingly clear: a far-right anti-Muslim extremist who despised the ruling party.
Presumably he wanted to make a name for himself, which is why I won't identify him. His name deserves to be forgotten. Discarded. Deleted. Labels like "madman", "monster", or "maniac" won't do, either. There's a perverse glorification in terms like that. If the media's going to call him anything, it should call him pathetic; a nothing.
On Friday night's news, they were calling him something else. He was a suspected terror cell with probable links to al-Qaida. Countless security experts queued up to tell me so. This has all the hallmarks of an al-Qaida attack, they said. Watching at home, my gut feeling was that that didn't add up. Why Norway? And why was it aimed so specifically at one political party? But hey, they're the experts. They're sitting there behind a caption with the word "EXPERT" on it. Every few minutes the anchor would ask, "What kind of picture is emerging?" or "What sense are you getting of who might be responsible?" and every few minutes they explained this was "almost certainly" the work of a highly-organised Islamist cell.
In the aftermath of the initial bombing, they proceeded to wrestle with the one key question: why do Muslims hate Norway? Luckily, the experts were on hand to expertly share their expert solutions to plug this apparent plot hole in the ongoing news narrative.
Why do Muslims hate Norway? There had to be a reason.
Norway was targeted because of its role in Afghanistan. Norway was targeted because Norwegian authorities had recently charged an extremist Muslim cleric. Norway was targeted because one of its newspapers had reprinted the controversial Danish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad.
Norway was targeted because, compared to the US and UK, it is a "soft target" – in other words, they targeted it because no one expected them to.
When it became apparent that a shooting was under way on Utoya island, the security experts upgraded their appraisal. This was no longer a Bali-style al-Qaida bombing, but a Mumbai-style al-Qaida massacre. On and on went the conjecture, on television, and in online newspapers, including this one. Meanwhile, on Twitter, word was quickly spreading that, according to eyewitnesses, the shooter on the island was a blond man who spoke Norwegian. At this point I decided my initial gut reservations about al-Qaida had probably been well founded. But who was I to contradict the security experts? A blond Norwegian gunman doesn't fit the traditional profile, they said, so maybe we'll need to reassess . . . but let's not forget that al-Qaida have been making efforts to actively recruit "native" extremists: white folk who don't arouse suspicion. So it's probably still the Muslims.
Soon, the front page of Saturday's Sun was rolling off the presses. "Al-Qaeda" Massacre: NORWAY'S 9/11 – the weasel quotes around the phrase "Al Qaeda" deemed sufficient to protect the paper from charges of jumping to conclusions.
By the time I went to bed, it had become clear to anyone within glancing distance of the internet that this had more in common with the 1995 Oklahoma bombing or the 1999 London nail-bombing campaign than the more recent horrors of al-Qaida.
While I slept, the bodycount continued to rise, reaching catastrophic proportions by the morning. The next morning I switched on the news and the al-Qaida talk had been largely dispensed with, and the pundits were now experts on far-right extremism, as though they'd been on a course and qualified for a diploma overnight.
Some remained scarily defiant in the face of the new unfolding reality. On Saturday morning I saw a Fox News anchor tell former US diplomat John Bolton that Norwegian police were saying this appeared to be an Oklahoma-style attack, then ask him how that squared with his earlier assessment that al-Qaida were involved. He was sceptical. It was still too early to leap to conclusions, he said. We should wait for all the facts before rushing to judgment. In other words: assume it's the Muslims until it starts to look like it isn't – at which point, continue to assume it's them anyway.
If anyone reading this runs a news channel, please, don't clog the airwaves with fact-free conjecture unless you're going to replace the word "expert" with "guesser" and the word "speculate" with "guess", so it'll be absolutely clear that when the anchor asks the expert to speculate, they're actually just asking a guesser to guess. Also, choose better guessers. Your guessers were terrible, like toddlers hypothesising how a helicopter works. I don't know anything about international terrorism, but even I outguessed them.
As more information regarding the identity of the terrorist responsible for the massacre comes to light, articles attempting to explain his motives are starting to appear online. And beneath them are comments from readers, largely expressing outrage and horror. But there are a disturbing number that start, "What this lunatic did was awful, but . . ."
These "but" commenters then go on to discuss immigration, often with reference to a shaky Muslim-baiting story they've half-remembered from the press. So despite this being a story about an anti-Muslim extremist killing Norwegians who weren't Muslim, they've managed to find a way to keep the finger of blame pointing at the Muslims, thereby following a narrative lead they've been fed for years, from the overall depiction of terrorism as an almost exclusively Islamic pursuit, outlined by "security experts" quick to see al-Qaida tentacles everywhere, to the fabricated tabloid fairytales about "Muslim-only loos" or local councils "banning Christmas".
We're in a frightening place. Guesswork won't lead us to safety.
"Do not apologies, make excuses or express regret for you are acting in self-defense or in a preemptive manner ... Some innocent will die in our operations as they are simply at the wrong place at the wrong time. Get used (to) the idea. The needs of the many will always surpass the needs of the few.
Uhm Tony Bliar spring to mind ? _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
An announcement made on 15.12.2010, 7 months and 7 days before 22.7.11.
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SOURCE: Jordan Times 16 Dec.'10:"Norway upgrades Palestinian mission",
Associated Press
SUBJECT: Norway's diplomacy readies for Palestinian state.
OSLO (AP) - Norway will raise the status of the Palestinian representation in the Scandinavian country in recognition of efforts to build a Palestinian state, the foreign ministry said Wednesday [15 Dec]. The decision was announced during a visit by Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad to Norway. Norwegian foreign ministry spokesman, Bjoern Svenungsen, said the upgrade, from “general delegation” to “diplomatic mission”, would take effect early next year. He said the top Palestinian diplomat in Oslo will have the rank of an ambassador but use the title “head of the Palestinian mission”. “Upgrading of the Palestinian representation to Norway is in recognition of the efforts made by the Palestinian Authority,” Svenungsen said. “In the last three years, since the donor conference in Paris in 2007, the Palestinian Authority has come a long way in laying the foundation for the establishment of a Palestinian state.” Nabil Shaath, a senior Palestinian negotiator, said three other European countries - Spain, France and Portugal - have taken similar steps recently.
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Tony Bliar spring to mind ?