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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lmao somewhere under university with windows? Yea good 1 Very Happy gotta love the BEEB Very Happy

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09/07/gaddafi-secret-rape-and-aborti on-den-uncovered/

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

an oldie but goodie

Former CIA Blows Lid Off Libya Fraud Live On CNN: "You're Just Carrying the Water for Mr. Obama"


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Obama has sent CIA agents into Lybia to see who the opposition is. Former CIA agents takes CNN hosts out of their comfort zone and talks about the real reasons why we are in Libya now and what the real outcome may be. He says the fact the effort is NATO lead may fool Americans but won't fool Libyan anti-west supporters. He also mentions that we are supprting the same people we are fighting against in other middle east countries like Iraq and Afghanistan

When asks what the U.S. should do in Libya Michael Scheuer says "what Mr. Paul Suggested, don't go in at all". Referring to Congressman Ron Paul's stance against the illegal wars in Libya.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this one adds a spot of confusion Surprised

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/199061.html

Many questioning media's coverage of Libyan fighters

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

29 years after the Massacre at Sabra Shatila…
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2011/09/17/29-years-after-the-mass acre-at-sabra-shatila%E2%80%A6/
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How much longer until we find the missing and grant civil rights to the rest?
by Franklin Lamb
September 17, 2011

SABHA, Libya — “The answer my friend is blowin’ in the wind” was the general consensus following a discussion between this observer and a gathering of Palestinian refugees in Sabha, Libya, many of whom would very much like to travel to Shatila camp in Beirut this week and participate in the 29th annual commemoration of the 1982 Israeli-facilitated massacre that left more than 3,000 dead and hundreds still missing.

Sabha, now the district Capitol, is about 400 miles south of Tripoli in the Saharan desert, and is one of the four main areas that NATO concedes is still controlled by pro-Gaddafi loyalists, (the other three are Sirte, Bani Walid, and Jufra), and for that reason, NATO has intensified its sometimes seemingly indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas. Today, NATO is desperately wanting to announce “mission accomplished” and put an end to its ill-conceived mission “to protect Libya‘s civilians”, which President Obama assured the world nearly 7 months ago, “will last days, not weeks.” NATO continues to hope that no one bothers to carefully examine what it wrought here because no person of good will would accept its massive gratuitous carnage.

NATO’s bad luck it that its war on Libya’s civilian population continues to be documented and it will be held accountable, at least in the court of public opinion, and conceivably elsewhere.

It was from Sabha, following the 1969 September 1st Fatah Revolution that Moammar Gaddafi announced “the breaking dawn of the era of the masses”.

As NATO tightens its noose around Sabha, the cousin of the “brother leader” (as Moammar was nicknamed by Nelson Mandela in gratitude for Libyan support for the long African National Congress (ANC) resistance to South Africans apartheid), and his able spokesman, Musa Ibrahim, reminds his audiences that the deepening civil war in Libya that was forced on this peaceful people by NATO and its ill-advised rush for regime change is just beginning. Ibrahim and some diplomats here believe it may well engulf other parts of Africa and the Middle East. Musa added yesterday, “Our leader will die in our sacred country for what his hero, Omar Muktar sacrificed his life for, and that is our country’s freedom from colonialism.”

Today Sabha, with a usual population of around 130,000 is now less than half that but hosts a few thousand Palestinian refugees, who appear to avoid current Libyan politics. Some are survivors of the 1982 Israeli-facilitated massacre at Shatila camp in Beirut, and they insist that no Palestinian or Hezbollah groups were fighting anywhere in the East or around here. Maybe a few individual Palestinian members of the Benghazi-based Muslim Brotherhood happened to be Palestinians but that was about all the gathered explained.

Many of Libya’s Palestinian refugees in Libya, like those in the Diaspora, desperately seek to learn what became of their family members who disappeared before, during and following the events of Sept. 15-20, 1982.

Palestinian refugees, like their Lebanese sisters and brothers, suffer unrelenting pain and anguish as they resolve to take concrete steps to learn what happened to their loved ones.

For more than 30 years, Palestinians in Lebanon have disappeared as a result of various Israeli invasions and the Lebanese civil war, with innocent refugee camp residents becoming victims of shifting regional and local political alliances.

Thousands of Palestinians, like Lebanese from all the sects, became victims of enforced disappearances, abductions, and other abuses. Seriously compounding the problem, Lebanon has failed to legislate a truth, justice, and reconciliation agency. Consequently, along with the failure of the governments of other states that were involved, the result has been that the whereabouts of many Palestinians remain a mystery and those responsible remain unidentified and unpunished.

British Journalist Robert Fisk, writing in the UK Independent, claims that more than 1,000 Palestinians are buried in pits in Lebanon’s only Golf Course that is adjacent to Shatila camp and the Kuwaiti Embassy.

Dr. Bayan Nuwayhed al Hout—author of Sabra and Shatila: September 1982, told this observer: “I’m positive that dozens of people were buried there with the help of bulldozers. The bulldozers were used to get rid of the dead bodies.”

Author Al Hout is referring to the fact that Israel supplied bulldozers paid for by American taxpayers to their allies, the right wing Christian militia that committed the slaughter with Israeli facilitation. On Saturday morning, September 18, 1982, Israeli Mossad agents inside the camp actually were observed driving three of the bulldozers in a frantic attempt to assist the Christian militia in covering up evidence of the crime before the exported international media arrived on the scene.

The late American journalist, Janet Lee Stevens, documented that during Sept. 18 and 19th, most of the massacre victims killed during this period were slaughtered inside the joint Israeli-Lebanese Forces “interrogation center.” Janet testified that these killed were put in flatbed trucks and taken to the Golf Course, just 300 yards away, where waiting Israeli bulldozers dug pits. Other trucks drove in the direction of East Beirut.

At the time of her death, seven months later, Janet was preparing her report for publication. This observer packed Janet’s belongings and after some wrangling with the US Embassy staff, who had arrived on the plane President Ronald Reagan sent to return Janet and the other Americans remains to the US, her two cardboard boxes of papers and research notes were onboard. Unfortunately, but understandably, a family member, who I was advised did not understand Janet’s work in Lebanon, discarded her papers, following Janet’s funeral in Atlanta, Georgia and before they could be collected by the University of Pennsylvania for analysis and preservation.

So we are deprived of most of Janet’s data on the missing Palestinians, which confirmed the fate of several hundred who disappeared during the massacre. Fortunately, in February of 1982, Janet had forwarded some of her conclusions to friends and for publication.

What needs to be done to locate the missing Palestinians and Lebanese?

A serious and sustained effort to locate the disappeared Palestinians and Lebanese and bring some degree of solace and closure to their families should be undertaken without further delay.

These Palestinian and Lebanese families have no idea if their loved ones are dead or alive. Obviously they are unable to organize a dignified burial or even properly grieve. Families of the disappeared suffer from a series of legal, financial, and administrative problems that result from not knowing what became of their missing loved ones.

A recent Amnesty International study of Lebanon’s problems on this urgent subject included the experience of Wadad Halawani, the founder of the Committee of the families of the kidnapped and missing in Lebanon. Wadad described her life after her husband was taken away from their home in Beirut in September 1982, apparently by agents of Lebanese military intelligence, the Duexsieme Bureau. Wadad was forced to raise her two young children, aged six and three, alone following his disappearance, and she described how she “lost her balance in life.” She did not know “how to protect the children from the rockets” and was “lost for answers to their endless questions” about their father for which she had no replies.

From knowing many families of missing husbands, Wadad outlined the problems faced by them, personal, social, legal, administrative, and economic.

On the personal and social level, she explained that a Palestinian or any woman in Lebanon whose husband is missing is neither a married woman nor single, neither divorced nor a widow, and for all that time she will have faced serious problems and obstacles linked to the low status of women. On the legal and administrative level, she explained that “a woman cannot spend her husband’s money nor dispose of his property, such as selling his car, as she does not have power of attorney allowing her to do so. Nor can she get a passport for herself or for her children if they are under 18, as the guardian required is the father, even though the mother is raising the children. On the economic level, Wadad told Amnesty International that most of the missing people are from poor families, so the loss of the breadwinner has had a devastating impact. In many cases, the families have been unable to cover basic daily needs, including food, clothing, housing, medical care, and the costs of education.

The families of missing and disappeared Palestinians and other persons have the right under international law to the truth, which means a full and complete disclosure about events that transpired during the disappearance of their loved ones.

In March 2010, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights reported that this includes the right to know the exact fate and whereabouts of each victim.

International law and human rights standards also require that each party to an armed conflict must take all feasible measures to try and account for people reported missing as a result of the conflict, and release all relevant information concerning their fate or whereabouts.

This applies to Israel during the September 1982 massacre. More than once over the past three decades, Israeli officials have reported that Israel has detailed records of what its sponsored militias did inside Shatila camp and on the periphery with respects to eliminating terrorists and hiding their remains. To date, Israel has refused UN and international demands to turn over its records. The international community must sanction Israel until it complies with international law on this subject.

In addition, friends of Palestine including NGO’s and relevant UN agencies, should immediately establish an agency cooperating with independent experts and representatives of civil society, including relatives of missing individuals, in cooperation with the Government of Lebanon, to investigate the fates of every missing Palestinian and Lebanese, including locating and ensuring protection for mass graves and for exhumations, to be carried out consistent with international standards to identify human remains and match them with DNA from relatives. The Embassy of Palestine in Lebanon would be a good choice for organizing the collection of DNA samples from Palestinian families with missing relatives.

As many Palestinians and their supporters arrive at Shatila camp in Beirut this weekend, the thoughts of Palestinians in Libya and the diaspora, land their friends around the world will be with them. As a young Palestinian lady in Sabha told this observer, and sounding very much like Miss Hiba Hajj in Lebanon’s Ein el Helwe camp, “Every Palestinian must visit this site you told us about of this mass murder of our brothers and sisters. I will do it soon. I promise you. It is not an option, it is an obligation.”

Franklin Lamb is doing research in Lebanon and can be reached at fplamb@gmail.com. Read more articles by Franklin Lamb.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey ho, some Dictator Surprised

Libyan citizens won't receive oil revenues
www.ynetnews.com http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3684096,00.html
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Published: 03.12.09, 07:44 / Israel Business

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Business: Gaddafi's plan to hand out some $32 billion directly to his country's residents dealt a blow in parliament. According to plan, each Libyan citizen was to get about $23,000


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From 2009 - interesting.


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Apparently the gov fought him on it. Its a myth propagated by the MSP that Gaddafi had total control of every aspect of Libyan life. he could do nothing without the govs approval, and most of them are now in the NTC!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zionist Plan Surprised call me dumb but do some folk like persecution or is that a lie too? http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Article.aspx?id=234992

Rebels ask leader of UK’s Libyan Jews to run for office
By GIL SHEFLER, JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT
08/23/2011 01:05

Raphael Luzon tells 'Post' that rebel council chief told him post-Gaddafi gov't should include women and Jews.

The day after the fall of Tripoli to the rebels, the leader of a Libyan-Jewish Diaspora group said he was offered by the emerging ruling power to run for office in free elections in that country.

Raphael Luzon, the head of Jews of Libya UK, told The Jerusalem Post on Monday that opposition leader Mustafa Abdul Jalil recently invited him to return to his country of birth and participate in the political discourse.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NATO commits massacre at Sirte razing the city to the ground
mathaba.net Posted: 2011/08/29 http://mathaba.net/news/?x=628388
‎3 days of non-stop bombing away from the public eye -- urgent appeal to humanitarians to force NATO to stop massacre

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMFGG Speechless!!!

Libya / Incredible media lies - BBC shows "Green Square" in INDIA, 24 August 2011


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Libyen / Unglaubliche Medienlügen - BBC zeigt "Green Square" in INDIEN, 24. August 2011
Libya / Incredible media lies - BBC shows "Green Square" in INDIA, 24 August 2011
Libia / Increíble mentiras mediáticas - BBC muestra "Green Square" en la India, 24 08 2011
Libia / Incredibile menzogne ​​dei media - la BBC mostra "Piazza Verde" in India, 24 Agosto 2011
Libye / Incroyable média mensonges - BBC montre «Green Square» en Inde, 24 août 2011
Libya / Incredible fjölmiðlum liggur - BBC sýnir "Green Square" á Indlandi, 24 Ágúst 2011
Ливия / Incredible СМИ лежит - BBC показывает "Зеленый квадрат" в Индии, 24 Август 2011
利比亞/不可思議的媒體謊言 - 英國廣播公司節目"綠色廣場"在印度,24 2011年8月
リビア/信じられないほどのメディアがある - BBCはインドの"緑の広場"、24を示しています。 2011年8月
/ लीबिया अतुल्य मीडिया झूठ - बीबीसी भारत में "ग्रीन स्क्वेयर", 24 से पता चलता है अगस्त 2011
ليبيا / وسائل الاعلام لا تصدق الأكاذيب -- بي بي سي يظهر "الساحة الخضراء" في الهند، 24 أغسطس 2011

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and still it drags on Sad

Demonstration in support of Muammar Gaddafi, against the NATO counter-revolution in Libya [18.09.2011]
Veröffentlicht am September 19, 2011 von Daniele Puccio
Demonstration in support of Muammar Gaddafi, against the NATO counter-revolution, in Tarhunah 09/18/2011

http://huey3man.wordpress.com/2011/09/19/demonstration-in-support-of-m uammar-gaddafi-against-the-nato-counter-revolution-in-libya-18-09-2011  /

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English: Map of Sarkozy's proposed Mediterranean Union. Own work, adapted from a public image on wikicommons: Image:BlankMap-Europe-v4.png. Possible membership of the Mediterranean Union (blue) with the rest of the European Union (dark grey).


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Trial of Destruction: Sarkozy sued for Libya crimes


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(You may find some of the images in Daniel Bushell's report disturbing) In Libya, the volatile situation shows no sign of abating - a month after Colonel Gaddafi was ousted. The country's interim leaders are struggling to form a cohesive cabinet - while their forces are still locked in battle with Gaddafi's remaining supporters. The defiant loyalists are making a last stand in three key cities. Sirte, Bani Walid and Sabha have been under heavy assault for over a week, with reports Gaddafi and his sons could be hiding there. Meanwhile, the rest of Libya is reeling from months of civil war, which has left tens of thousands dead. Ongoing NATO airstrikes have also reportedly killed a number of civilians by mistake. But some Western leaders are now facing charges at home over their military intervention.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Counter propaganda dated 19/09/11

http://alfatah69.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/80-90-of-libya-under-the-gov ernment-control/


and an exhaustive article from Global Research

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26710

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cynthia McKinney email re truth of Libya conflict:
(I won't try to comment; Cynthia says it all, and so well):

Libya: CNN - pictures from the "liberated" Sabha? - A closer look ...

For CHECKS - IMAGE SOURCE: http://yfrog.com/gzvj7ykj Libyen: CNN - Bilder aus dem "befreiten" Sabha? - a closer look ... Libya: CNN - pictures from the "liberated" Sabha? - A closer look ... Libia:…
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US/NATO against Libya: WEB OF LIES - EXPOSED!
September 23, 2011
Independent journalist Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya has come up with blockbuster details of the WEB OF LIES that spawned the NATO genocide in Libya. This is a long, but very important read. Please pay close attention to the names listed in the Annex of his report.
Mahdi and I will be on KPFK's Freedom Now, hosted by Dedon Kamathi (5:00 pm Pacific Time). Hear Mahdi explain this document in eloquent and passionate detail. Most of us are already aware of the fact of the lie, but Mahdi will tell us how the lie became global United Nations/NATO policy. And this is what will truly shock you: how a decision to go to war against a country and completely destroy it was so cavalierly undertaken.
Mahdi's report is extremely important. Tune in tomorrow at KPFK.org and then continue to watch that spot as more of Mahdi's information obtained in those last harrowing days in Libya will be exposed. If you cannot tune in to us live, then please check the KPFK Freedom Now audio archives at your convenience.
By the way, I'm receiving multiple reports from different sources that Green Flags are being hoisted in Tripoli, Cyrenaica, Benghazi, and other places. I have no way to know if these reports are true, but NATO extended their mission for another three months. I would call that "a clue."
Before you read Mahdi's report, turn the volume on your speakers way up and enjoy the music as the author of this video rips apart what could be a CNN photoshopped news report. And remember, they do photoshop because they were photoshopping Osama bin Laden from the face of a member of the Parliament of Spain, remember that? So, why not photoshop Libya, too? NATO had better watch out; at this rate, they might lose their fig leaf.
Here's the video link sent to me from the Venezuelan website resistencialibia.info:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jblZZKEm_fo

Now, here's Mahdi's very exhaustively documented article:
LIBYA AND THE BIG LIE: USING HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS TO LAUNCH WARS
Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya
The war against Libya is built on fraud. The United Nations Security Council passed two resolutions against Libya on the basis of unproven claims, specifically that Colonel Muammar Qaddafi was killing his own people in Benghazi. The claim in its exact form was that Qaddafi had ordered Libyan forces to kill 6,000 people in Benghazi. These claims were widely disseminated, but always vaguely explained. It was on the basis of this claim that Libya was referred to the U.N. Security Council at U.N Headquarters in New York City and kicked out of the U.N. Human Rights Council in Geneva.
False claims about African mercenary armies in Libya and about jet attacks on civilians were also used in a broad media campaign against Libya. These two claims have been sidelined and have become more and more murky. The massacre claims, however, were used in a legal, diplomatic, and military framework to justify NATO’s war on the Libyans.
Using Human Rights as a Pretext for War: The LLHR and its Unproven Claims
One of the main sources for the claim that Qaddafi was killing his own people is the Libyan League for Human Rights (LLHR). The LLHR was actually pivotal to getting the U.N. involved through its specific claims in Geneva. On February 21, 2011 the LLHR got the 70 other non-governmental organizations (NGOs) to sent letters to the President Obama, E.U. High Representative Catherine Ashton., and the U.N. Secretary-General Ban-ki Moon demanding international action against Libya invoking the “Responsibility to Protect” doctrine. Only 25 members of this coalition actually assert that they are human rights groups.

The letter is as follows:
We, the undersigned non-governmental, human rights, and humanitarian organizations, urge you to mobilize the United Nations and the international community and take immediate action to halt the mass atrocities now being perpetrated by the Libyan government against its own people. The inexcusable silence cannot continue.
As you know, in the past several days, Colonel Moammar Gadhafi’s forces are estimated to have deliberately killed hundreds of peaceful protesters and innocent bystanders across the country. In the city of Benghazi alone, one doctor reported seeing at least 200 dead bodies. Witnesses report that a mixture of special commandos, foreign mercenaries and regime loyalists have attacked demonstrators with knives, assault rifles and heavy-caliber weapons.
Snipers are shooting peaceful protesters. Artillery and helicopter gunships have been used against crowds of demonstrators. Thugs armed with hammers and swords attacked families in their homes. Hospital officials report numerous victims shot in the head and chest, and one struck on the head by an anti-aircraft missile. Tanks are reported to be on the streets and crushing innocent bystanders. Witnesses report that mercenaries are shooting indiscriminately from helicopters and from the top of roofs. Women and children were seen jumping off Giuliana Bridge in Benghazi to escape. Many of them were killed by the impact of hitting the water, while others were drowned. The Libyan regime is seeking to hide all of these crimes by shutting off contact with the outside world. Foreign journalists have been refused entry. Internet and phone lines have been cut or disrupted.
There is no question here about intent. The government media has published open threats, promising that demonstrators would meet a “violent and thunderous response.”
Accordingly, the government of Libya is committing gross and systematic violations of the right to life as guaranteed by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. Citizens seeking to exercise their rights to freedom of expression and freedom of assembly are being massacred by the government.
Moreover, the government of Libya is committing crimes against humanity, as defined by the Explanatory Memorandum to the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court. The Libyan government’s mass killing of innocent civilians amount to particularly odious offences which constitute a serious attack on human dignity. As confirmed by numerous oral and video testimonies gathered by human rights organizations and news agencies, the Libyan government’s assault on its civilian population are not isolated or sporadic events. Rather, these actions constitute a widespread and systematic policy and practice of atrocities, intentionally committed, including murder, political persecution and other inhumane acts which reach the threshold of crimes against humanity.

Responsibility to Protect
Under the 2005 World Summit Outcome Document, you have a clear and unambiguous responsibility to protect the people of Libya. The international community, through the United Nations, has the responsibility to use appropriate diplomatic, humanitarian and other peaceful means, in accordance with Chapters VI and VIII of the Charter, to help to protect the Libyan population. Because the Libyan national authorities are manifestly failing to protect their population from crimes against humanity, should peaceful means be inadequate, member states are obliged to take collective action, in a timely and decisive manner, through the Security Council, in accordance with the UN Charter, including Chapter VII.
In addition, we urge you to convene an emergency Special Session of the UN Human Rights Council, whose members have a duty, under UNGA Resolution 60/251, to address situations of gross and systematic violations of violations of human rights. The session should:
•Call for the General Assembly to suspend Libya’s Council membership, pursuant to Article 8 of Resolution 60/251, which applies to member states that commit gross and systematic violations of human rights.
•Strongly condemn, and demand an immediate end to, Libya’s massacre of its own citizens.
•Dispatch immediately an international mission of independent experts to collect relevant facts and document violations of international human rights law and crimes against humanity, in order to end the impunity of the Libyan government. The mission should include an independent medical investigation into the deaths, and an investigation of the unlawful interference by the Libyan government with the access to and treatment of wounded.
•Call on the UN High Commissioner of Human Rights and the Council’s relevant Special Procedures to closely monitor the situation and take action as needed.
•Call on the Council to remain seized of the matter and address the Libyan situation at its upcoming 16th regular session in March.
Member states and high officials of the United Nations have a responsibility to protect the people of Libya from what are preventable crimes. We urge you to use all available measures and levers to end atrocities throughout the country.
We urge you to send a clear message that, collectively, the international community, the Security Council and the Human Rights Council will not be bystanders to these mass atrocities. The credibility of the United Nations — and many innocent lives — are at stake. [1]
According to Physicians for Human Rights: “[This letter was] prepared under the guidance of Mohamed Eljahmi, the noted Libyan human rights defender and brother of dissident Fathi Eljahmi, asserts that the widespread atrocities committed by Libya against its own people amount to war crimes, requiring member states to take action through the Security Council under the responsibility to protect doctrine.” [2]
The letters signatories included Francis Fukuyama, United Nations Watch (which looks out for Israel’s interests), B’nai B’rith Human Rights Commission, the Cuban Democratic Directorate, and a set of organizations at odds with the governments of Nicaragua, Cuba, Sudan, Russia, Venezuela, and Libya. Some of these organizations are viewed with hostility as organizations created to wage demonization campaigns against countries at odds with the U.S., Israel, and the European Union. Refer to the annex for the full list of signatories for consultation.
LLHR is tied to the International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH), which is based in France and has ties to the National Endowment for Democracy (NED). FIDH is active in many places in Africa and in activities involving the National Endowment for Democracy. Both the FIDH and LLHR also released a joint communiqué on February 21, 2011. In the communiqué both organizations asked for the international community to “mobilize” and mention the International Criminal Court while also making a contradictory claiming that over 400 to 600 people had died since February 15, 2011. [3] This of course was about 5,500 short of the claim that 6,000 people were massacred in Benghazi. The joint letter also promoted the false view that 80% of Qaddafi’s support came from foreign mercenaries, which is something that over half a year of fighting proves as untrue.
According to the General-Secretary of the LLHR, Dr. Sliman Bouchuiguir, the claims about the massacres in Benghazi could not be validated by the LLHR when he was challenged for proof. When asked how a group of 70 non-governmental organizations in Geneva could support the LLHR’s claims on Geneva, Dr. Buchuiguir has answered that a network of close relationship was the basis. This is a mockery.
Speculation is neither evidence nor grounds for starting a war with a bombing campaign that has lasted about half a year and taken many innocent civilian lives, including children and the elderly. What is important to note here is that the U.N. Security Council decided to sanction the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya on the basis of this letter and the claims of the LLHR. Not once did the U.N. Security Council and the member states pushing for war once bother to even investigate the allegations. In one session in New York City, the Indian Ambassador to the U.N. actually pointed this out when his country abstained from voting.
Thus, a so-called “humanitarian war” was launched without any evidence.
The Secret Relationship between the LLHR and the Transitional Council
The claims of the Libyan League for Human Rights (LLHR) were coordinated with the formation of the Transitional Council. This becomes clear with when the close and cagey relationship of the LLHR and the Transitional Council becomes apparent. Logically, the Obama Administration and NATO had to also be a part of this.
Whatever the Transitional Council is and whatever the intent of some of its supporters, it is clear that it is being used as a tool by the U.S. and others. Moreover, five members of the LLHR were or would become members of the Transitional Council almost immediately after the claims against the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya were disseminated. According to Bouchuguir this includes Mahmoud Jibril and Ali Tarhouni.
Dr. Mahmoud Jibril is a Libyan regime figure brought into Libyan government circles by Saif Al-Islam Qaddafi. He would undemocratically be given the position of Transitional Council prime minister. His involvement with the LLHR raises some real questions about the organization.
The economist Ali Tarhouni on the other hand would become the minister for oil and finance for the Transitional Council. Tarhouni is Washington’s man in Libya. He was groomed in the United States and was present at all the major meetings about plans for regime change in Libya. As Minister of Oil and Finance the first acts he did were privatize and virtually handover Libya’s energy resources and economy.
The General-Secretary of the LLHR, Sliman Bouchuiguir, has even privately admitted that many influential members of the Transitional Council are his friends. A real question of interests arises. Yet, the secret relationship between the LLHR and the Transitional Council is far more than a question of conflict of interest. It is a question of justice and manipulation.

Who is Sliman Bouchuiguir?
Sliman Bouchuguir is an unheard of figure for most, but he has authored a doctoral thesis that has been widely quoted and used in strategic circles in the United States. This thesis was published in 1979 as a book, The Use of Oil as a Political Weapon: A Case Study of the 1973 Arab oil Embargo. The thesis is about the use of oil as an economic weapon by Arabs, but can easily be applied to the Russians, the Iranians, the Venezuelans, and others. It examines economic development and economic warfare and can also be applied to vast regions, including all of Africa.
Bouchuguir’s analytical thesis reflects an important line of thinking in Washington, as well as London and Tel Aviv. It is both the embodiment of a pre-existing mentality, which includes U.S. National Security Advisor George F. Kennan’s arguments for maintaining a position of disparity through a constant multi-faced war between the U.S. and its allies on one hand and the rest of the world on the other hand. The thesis can be drawn on for preventing the Arabs, or others, from becoming economic powers or threats. In strategic terms rival economies are pinned as threats and as “weapons.” This has serious connotations.
Moreover, Bouchuiguir did his thesis at George Washington University under Bernard Reich. Reich is a political scientist and professor of international relations. He has worked and held positions at places like the U.S. Defense Intelligence College, the United States Air Force Special Operations School, the Marine Corps War College, and the Shiloah Center at Tel Aviv University. He has consulted on the Middle East for the Foreign Service Institute of the U.S. State Department and received grants such as the Defense Academic Research Support Program Research grant and the German Marshal Fund Grant. Reich also was or is presently on the editorial boards of journals such as Israel Affairs (1994-present), Terrorism: An International Journal (1987-1994), and The New Middle East (1971-1973).
It is also clear that Reich is tied to Israeli interests. He has even written a book about the special relationship between the U.S and Israel. He has also been an advocate for a “New Middle East” which would be favourable to Israel. This includes careful consideration over North Africa. His work has also focused on the important strategic interface between the Soviet Union and the Middle East and also on Israeli policy in the continent of Africa.
It is clear why Bouchuiguir has his thesis supervised under Reich. On October 23, 1973, Reich gave a testimony at the U.S. Congress. The testimony has been named “The Impact of the October Middle East War” and is clearly tied to the 1973 oil embargo and Washington’s aim of pre-empting or managing any similar events in the future. It has to be asked, how much did Reich influence Bouchuiguir and if Bouchuiguir espouses the same strategic views as Reich?

The “New North Africa” and a “New Africa” – More than just a “New Middle East”
A “New Africa” is in the works, which will have its borders further drawn out in blood like in the past. The Obama Administration and its allies have opened the gateway for a new invasion of Africa. United States Africa Command (AFRICOM) opened the salvos of the war through Operation Odyssey Damn, before the war on Libya was transferred to NATO’ Operation Unified Protector.
The U.S. has used NATO to continue the occupation of post-Second World War Europe. It will now use AFRICOM to occupy Africa and create an African NATO. It is clear the U.S. wants an expanded military presence in Libya and Africa under the disguise of humanitarian aid missions and fighting terrorism – the same terrorism that it is fanning in Libya and Africa.
The way is being paved for intervention in Africa under the guise of fighting terrorism. General Carter Ham has stated: “If we were to launch a humanitarian operation, how do we do so effectively with air traffic control, airfield management, [and] those kind of activities?” [4] General Ham’s question is actually a sales pitch for fashioning African military partnerships and integration, as well as new bases that could include the use of more military drones against Libya and other African countries. The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal (WSJ) have both made it clear that the Pentagon is actively trying to establish more drone bases in Africa and the Arabian Peninsula to expand its wars. [WP] In this context, the AFRICOM Commander that there are ties between the Al-Shabaab in Somalia, Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb in North Africa, and the Boko Harem in Nigeria. [6]

The War in Libya is a Fraud
General Ham has said: “I remain confident that had the U.N. not made the decision, had the U.S. not taken the lead with great support, I’m absolutely convinced there are many, many people in Benghazi alive today who would not be [alive].” [7] This is not true and a far stretch from reality. The war has cost more lives than it could have ever saved. It has ruined a country and opened the door into Africa for a neo-colonial project.
The claims of the Libyan League for Human Rights (LLHR) were never supported or verified. The credibility of United Nations must be questioned as well as many humanitarian and human rights organizations that have virtually pushed for a war. At best the U.N. Security Council is an irresponsible body, but it has clearly acted outside of due legal process. This pattern now appears to be repeating itself against the Syrian Arab Republic as unverified claims are being made by individuals and organizations supported by foreign powers that care nothing for authentic democratic reforms or liberty.

NOTES

[1] United Nations Watch et al., “Urgent Appeal to Stop Atrocities in Libya: Sent by 70 NGOs to the US, EU, and UN,” February 21, 2011:
http://www.unwatch.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=bdKKISNqEmG&b=1 330815&ct=9135143

[2] Physicians for Human Rights, “PHR and Human Rights Groups Call for Immediate Action in Libya,” February 22, 2011:
http://physiciansforhumanrights.org/press/press-releases/news-2011-02- 22-libya.html

[3] The International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH) and the Libyan League for Human Rights (LLHR), “Massacres in Libya: The international community must urgently,” respond, February 21, 2011:
http://www.fidh.org/IMG/article_PDF/article_a9183.pdf

[4] Jim Garamone, “Africa Command Learns from Libya Operations,” American Forces Press Service, September 15, 2011:
http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=65344&reason=1

[5] Gregory Miller and Craig Whitlock, “U.S. U.S. assembling secret drone bases in Africa, Arabian Peninsula, officials say,” The Washington Post, September 20, 2011; Julian E. Barnes, “U.S. Expands Drone Flights to Take Aim at East Africa,” The Wall Street Journal (WSJ), September 21, 2011.

[6] Garamone, “Africa Command Learns,” Op. cit.

[7] Ibid.

ANNEX: SIGNATORY OF THE URGENT LETTER FOR ACTION ON LIBYA
February 12, 2011 – Geneva, Switzerland

1. Hillel C. Neuer, United Nations Watch, Switzerland
2. Dr. Sliman Bouchuiguir, Libyan League for Human Rights, Switzerland
3. Mary Kay Stratis, Victims of Pan Am Flight 103, Inc., USA
4. Carl Gershman, President, The National Endowment for Democracy, USA
5. Yang Jianli, Initiatives for China, USA - Former prisoner of conscience and survivor of Tiananmen Square massacre
6. Yang Kuanxing, YIbao - Chinese writer, original signatory to Charter 08, the manifesto calling for political reform in China
7. Matteo Mecacci, MP, Nonviolent Radical Party, Italy
8. Frank Donaghue, Physicians for Human Rights, USA
9. Nazanin Afshin-Jam, Stop Child Executions, Canada
10. Bhawani Shanker Kusum, Gram Bharati Samiti, India
11. G. Jasper Cummeh, III, Actions for Genuine Democratic Alternatives, Liberia
12. Michel Monod, International Fellowship of Reconciliation, Switzerland
13. Esohe Aghatise, Associazione Iroko Onlus, Italy
14. Harris O. Schoenberg, UN Reform Advocates, USA
15. Myrna Lachenal, World Federation for Mental Health, Switzerland
16. Nguyên Lê Nhân Quyên, Vietnamese League for Human Rights, Switzerland
17. Sylvia G. Iriondo, Mothers and Women against Repression (M.A.R. Por Cuba), USA
18. David Littman, World Union for Progressive Judaism, Switzerland
19. Barrister Festus Okoye, Human Rights Monitor, Nigeria
20. Theodor Rathgeber, Forum Human Rights, Germany
21. Derik Uya Alfred, Kwoto Cultural Center, Juba – Southern Sudan
22. Carlos E Tinoco, Consorcio Desarrollo y Justicia, A.C., Venezuela
23. Abdurashid Abdulle Abikar, Center for Youth and Democracy, Somalia
24. Dr. Vanee Meisinger, Pan Pacific and South East Asia Women’s Association, Thailand
25. Simone Abel, René Cassin, United Kingdom
26. Dr. Francois Ullmann, Ingenieurs du Monde, Switzerland
27. Sr Catherine Waters, Catholic International Education Office, USA
28. Gibreil Hamid, Darfur Peace and Development Centre, Switzerland
29. Nino Sergi, INTERSOS – Humanitarian Aid Organization, Italy
30. Daniel Feng, Foundation for China in the 21st Century
31. Ann Buwalda, Executive Director, Jubilee Campaign, USA
32. Leo Igwe, Nigerian Humanist Movement, Nigeria
33. Chandika Gautam, Nepal International Consumers Union, Nepal
34. Zohra Yusuf, Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, Pakistan
35. Sekou Doumbia, Femmes & Droits Humains, Mali
36. Cyrille Rolande Bechon, Nouveaux Droits de l'Homme, Cameroon
37. Zainab Al-Suwaij, American Islamic Congress, USA
38. Valnora Edwin, Campaign for Good Governance, Sierra Leone
39. Patrick Mpedzisi, African Democracy Forum, South Africa
40. Phil ya Nangoloh, NamRights, Namibia
41. Jaime Vintimilla, Centro Sobre Derecho y Sociedad (CIDES), Ecuador
42. Tilder Kumichii Ndichia, Gender Empowerment and Development, Cameroon
43. Amina Bouayach, Moroccan Organisation for Human Rights, Morocco
44. Abdullahi Mohamoud Nur, CEPID-Horn Africa, Somalia
45. Delly Mawazo Sesete, Resarch Center on Environment, Democracy & Human Rights, DR Congo
46. Joseph Rahall, Green Scenery, Sierra Leone
47. Arnold Djuma, Solidarité pour la Promotion Sociale et la Paix, Rwanda
48. Panayote Dimitras, Greek Helsinki Monitor, Greece
49. Carlos E. Ponce, Latina American and Caribbean Network for Democracy, Venezuela
50. Fr. Paul Lansu, Pax Christi International, Belgium
51. Tharsika Pakeerathan, Swiss Council of Eelam Tamils, Switzerland
52. Ibrahima Niang, Commission des Droits Humains du Mouvement Citoyen, Senegal
53. Virginia Swain, Center for Global Community and World Law, USA
54. Dr Yael Danieli, International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies, USA
55. Savita Gokhale, Loksadhana, India
56. Hasan Dheeree, Biland Awdal Organization, Somalia
57. Pacifique Nininahazwe, Forum pour le Renforcement de la Société Civile, Burundi
58. Derik Uya Alfred, Kwoto Cultural Center, Southern Sudan
59. Michel Golubnichy, International Association of Peace Foundations, Russia
60. Edward Ladu Terso, Multi Media Training Center, Sudan
61. Hafiz Mohammed, Justice Africa Sudan, Sudan
62. Sammy Eppel, B'nai B’rith Human Rights Commission, Venezuela
63. Jack Jeffery, International Humanist and Ethical Union, United Kingdom
64. Duy Hoang, Viet Tan, Vietnam
65. Promotion de la Democratie et Protection des Droits Humains, DR Congo
66. Radwan A. Masmoudi, Center for the Study of Islam & Democracy, USA
67. María José Zamora Solórzano, Movimiento por Nicaragua, Nicaragua
68. John Suarez, Cuban Democratic Directorate, USA
69. Mohamed Abdul Malek, Libya Watch, United Kingdom
70. Journalists Union of Russia, Russia
71. Sindi Medar-Gould, BAOBAB for Women’s Human Rights, Nigeria
72. Derik Uya Alfred, Kwoto Cultural Centre, Sudan
73. Sr. Anne Shaym, Presentation Sisters, Australia
74. Joseph Rahad, Green Scenery, Sierra Leone
75. Fahma Yusuf Essa, Women in Journalism Association, Somalia
76. Hayder Ibrahim Ali, Sudanese Studies Center, Sudan
77. Marcel Claude Kabongo, Good Governance and Human Rights NGO, DR Congo
78. Frank Weston, International Multiracial Shared Cultural Organization (IMSCO), USA
79. Fatima Alaoui, Maghrebin Forum for environment and development, Morocco
80. Ted Brooks, Committee for Peace and Development Advocacy, Liberia
81. Felly Fwamba, Cerveau Chrétien, DR Congo
82. Jane Rutledge, CIVICUS: World Alliance of Citizen Participation, South Africa
83. Ali AlAhmed, The Institute for Gulf Affairs, USA
84. Daniel Ozoukou, Martin Luther King Center for Peace and Social Justice, Cote d'Ivoire
85. Dan T. Saryee, Liberia Democratic Institute (LDI), Liberia

Individuals
Dr. Frene Ginwala, former Speaker of the South African National Assembly
Philosopher Francis Fukuyama
Mohamed Eljahmi, Libyan human rights activist
Glenn P. Johnson, Jr., Treasurer, Victims of Pan Am Flight 103, Inc., father of Beth Ann Johnson, victim of Lockerbie bombing

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Please post this outstanding article and distribute through your lists - Susan Lindauer

Libya: David Cameron's 2 Billion Pound Nightmare
By Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/26-09-2011/119161-libya_ca meron-0/

What do you get when a wannabe imperialist invents a war to get out of trouble at home, straying into deep waters that he neither controls nor understands, getting embroiled in an internecine tribal conflict that spins out of control? The answer to this question is the place where the UK’s David Cameron finds himself now: a 2-bn. pound nightmare.

Not so many months ago, we had David Cameron and William Hague declaring that the Libya Question was “not about removing Gaddafi” and that all it would take would be an immediate ceasefire from the Libyan Armed Forces. Not so many months ago we had David Cameron and William Hague declaring that the war would cost in the region of 200 million pounds, that there would be no NATO boots on the ground and that NATO would not arm the 'rebels'

What they did not tell us was that the French and Americans had been planning this imperialist little adventure for years--

What they did not tell us was that the rebel flags had been ordered well in advance from a British company--

What they did not tell us was that the entire operation was indeed to remove Colonel Gaddafi, not because he posed any threat to his “rebels” (after all, what do you do when tens of thousands of marauding thugs armed with machine guns take to the streets, decapitating Negroes, chanting racist slogans, promising to ethnically cleanse Libya of Negroes, torching government buildings, raping and killing women and children and destroying public and private property?)

They knew that the decision 'to go in' had been taken long before the rebels strafed their own position to blame Colonel Gaddafi. They knew that their own media had been spreading lies about the Libyan Air Force bombing civilians – the one bombing civilians is NATO.

We saw the British reaction in draconian measures – when a few hundred bored schoolkids ran amok in August. One wonders whether Cameron would simply have given up and walked away from Number Ten Downing Street if they had been armed, or if someone had done to his youth what he did to Libya’s.

What they did not tell us was that this entire charade is about removing Colonel Gaddafi from power because his humanitarian and developmental projects in Africa and his plan to launch a gold-based currency, the Gold Dinar, would be too costly for selfish western interests.

What Cameron and Hague did not tell you is that their forces are to spend seven times more of the British tax-payers’ money than they originally admitted – nearly two billion, or two thousand million or 2,000,000,000 pounds… on what?

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I will tell you.

* They have strafed the Libyan water supply (war crime) to 'break the back of the population'
* They have targeted the electricity grid (war crime)
* They have targeted private homes (war crime)
* They have taken out civilian structures with military equipment (war crime)
* They have murdered children (war crime, and they did not even apologise)
* They have targeted civilians (war crime).
* They then held a conference in Paris to divide up Libya's assets.

What they have also not told you is that the Libyan Armed Forces are largely intact.

What they have not told you is that parts of Tripoli still fly the Green Flag (symbol of the Jamahiriya, the democratic government which Muammar al-Qathafi advises). What they do not tell you is that there are still green Marches in Benghazi.

What they do not tell you is that Mahmoud Jibril dare not enter Tripoli.
They do not tell you where Jalil (the number 2) came from.
They do not tell you the background of the TNC.
They do not tell you the tribes have voted for Gaddafi.

They do not tell you that the crack desert fighters.the Tuareg, who decide who crosses the desert and who does not, have sided with Muammar Gaddafi against the TNC.
They do not tell you that the Loyalists in Libya include the hearts and minds of the Libyan population whether or not they are taking up arms against the terrorists.
The NATO special forces and this scourge have frightened many into cowering in their homes - but this does not spell support, even tacitly.

They do not tell you they indeed have NATO boots on the ground, breaching UNSC resolutions. They have indeed armed the 'rebels' (another breach of UNSC resolutions), and they have indeed employed mercenaries – hundreds of thousands of them (a huge breach of UNSC resolutions).

They have not told you that NATO and its terrorists have suffered defeat after defeat in recent weeks, are unable to enter Bani Walid, are unable to enter Sirte and the only tactic that remains open is by carpet-bombing any areas of resistance, including homes, hospitals and schools to bomb the terrorists in.

Is that noble? It is a war crime.

It is an act of terrorism and David Cameron and William Hague, along with their French friend Sarkozy and that American in the White House, are using YOUR hard-earned money to perpetrate this outrage, which is sure to cost the UK thousands of jobs as retaliatory measures kick in across Africa.

Sorry Mr. Templeton, we do not have any money for your mother’s cancer treatment, I am afraid she will have to die; sorry Mr. Johnson, there is no more funding for your son’s leukaemia treatment, we do have palliative care, do you know what that is? And as for your now hospital wing, new school, new clinic, a raspberry in your faces as Cameron and Hague stick the middle finger to their own people.

How long does David Cameron think the British population will accept it all with their heads bowed, like a sickening herd of sheep?

The British People will tell you...

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A documentary giving an insight into the events in Libya that led up to NATO intervention.
Libyan Crisis: Events, Causes and Facts. part 1/3
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Libyan Rebel Commander Killed by Bani Walid Defenders

rebel fighters tasked by NATO to take Bani Walid have begun filtering back home after frustrating and continuous defeat by the city's defenders. A recent rocket barrage managed to kill rebel commander Daw Saleheen, who was leading operations against Bani Walid, Associated Press reported. Saleheen had taken part in a previous, CIA-MI6 1993 attempt to overthrow Qaddafi and the Libyan government, and was subsequently imprisoned for 18 years
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U.S. General Says Military Mission in Libya Largely Complete
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In this March 24, 2011, file photo U.S. Army Gen. Carter Ham, the top U.S. Commander for Africa, speaks at a press conference at the the Sigonella airbase in Sicily, Italy.
WASHINGON – The military mission in Libya is largely complete and NATO's involvement could begin to wrap up as soon as this coming week after allied leaders meet in Brussels, according to the top U.S. commander for Africa.
Army Gen. Carter Ham, head of U.S. Africa Command, told The Associated Press that American military leaders are expected to give NATO ministers their assessment of the situation during meetings late in the week.
NATO could decide to end the mission even though ousted leader Muammar Qaddafi is still at large and his forces are still entrenched in strongholds such as Sirte and Bani Walid.

NATO's decision-making body, the North Atlantic Council, agreed on Sept. 21 to extend the mission over the oil-rich North African nation for another 90 days, but officials have said the decision would be reviewed periodically.
Ham said that the National Transitional Council and its forces should be in "reasonable control" of population centers before the end of the NATO mission, dubbed Unified Protector. And he said they are close to that now.
When NATO makes its decision, Ham said he believes there would be a seamless transition of control over the air and maritime operations to U.S. Africa Command. And, at least initially, some of the military surveillance coverage would remain in place.
"We don't want to go from what's there now to zero overnight," Ham said. "There will be some missions that will need to be sustained for some period of time, if for no other reason than to offer assurances to the interim government for things like border security, until such time that they are ready to do all that themselves."
U.S. intelligence and surveillance assets, such as drones, will likely stay in the region also to keep watch over weapons caches, to prevent the proliferation of weapons from Libya into neighboring countries.
But Ham said air strikes would likely end, unless specifically requested by the Libyan transitional government.
NATO took over command of the mission in March, after it was initially led by the U.S. in the early days of the bombing campaign. The mission was designed to enforce a U.N. resolution allowing the imposition of a no-fly zone and military action to protect Libyan civilians.
The aggressive bombing runs that battered Qaddafi forces, weapons, air control, and other key targets, gave the revolutionary forces the time and breathing room to organize and begin to push into regime strongholds. A key turning point came about a month ago when the fighters were able to seize the capital, Tripoli, effectively ending Qaddafi's rule.
Now, the National Transitional Council has taken over the leadership of the nation and is promising to set up its new interim government, even as it continues to fight forces still loyal to the fugitive leader.
Ham said NATO need not wait until Qaddafi is found and forced out of the country before ending the Libyan mission.
"The fact that he is still at large some place is really more a matter for the Libyans than it is for anybody else," said Ham, adding that President Barack Obama and other leaders made it clear that the object of the mission was about protecting the people, not killing Qaddafi.
The goal now, said Ham, is for the U.S. to eventually establish a normal, military-to-military relationship with Libya, including embassy staff and discussions about what security assistance the Libyans might want from America. He said he doesn't see a major U.S. role in training or other military assistance, because other Arab nations are better suited for that.
He added that the U.S. may be able to help re-establish Libya's Coast Guard and maritime domain.
Any U.S. military footprint in the country would remain small -- probably less than two dozen troops at the embassy to work as staff and perform security.

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No mention of UK special forces on the ground in Libya?

LETTER FROM MUTASSIM BILLAH GADDAFI [ 08.10.2011. ]
http://alfatah69.wordpress.com/2011/10/09/letter-from-mutassim-billah- gaddafi-08-10-2011/
In his letter to “Seven Days News” Mu’tasim Billah Gaddafi said that the Transitional Council is well aware that it can not survive in Libya for one week after the withdrawal of NATO, on the other hand, the resistance is fighting battles comfortably and that is the great difference between Jamahyria soldiers and Transitional insurgents.

This is reflected in the battles of Sirte and Bani Walid where the Mujahideen snipers entertain themselves by playing a competitive game of hunting for insurgents, who do not understand the principles of fighting, standing naively in the range of sniper fire, they are deluded to the point that we sometimes mourn to who they are, whereas those who sent them to die are languishing in hotels of the world drinking wine and making the deals.

Mu’tasim Billah also said: There is no future for the Council, they can not protect themself, they can only plead to NATO to stay in our own country to protect them, while pushing Libyan people to pay the bill for NATO’s stay.

Mutasim said:We say to all of those colonizers who think that they will live in security and will enjoy in Libya as they please,we say to them,resistance will remain, and will spoil you this joy and security!

They will never be safe, nowhere, not on ground or in the air nor in the sea! Those who think that the resistance will stop, days before the liberation of Libya, are deluded, resistance will continue and personnel of State officials are reported everywhere.

Everyone has to understand that there will be no stability in Libya, no stability in Libya, no stability in Libya, we will never allow a successful regime under U.S. occupation!

The next phase is striking of foreign oil interests in the whole of Libya. Who can protect the pipe network and oil installations which are extended or located in the desert, no one can claim that they could be protected! Command has issued orders to target all oil installations or tankers both on land or at sea!


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As for the flights, our intelligence says that the Transitional Council will seek the use of civil aviation for special purposes in order to avoid detection in some sort of hiding behind civilian flights, so they can transfer foreign military experts, weapons and equipment on flights with passengers. That’s why we strongly recommend to Libyans who do not want to endanger their own lives by protecting the interests of the Council, not to fly on flights between Libya and the countries which are among suspicious risk, including the UAE, Qatar, France, Italy, Malta and Turkey. Forewarned is forearmed.

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GADDAFI PLACED $97 BILLION ON TABLE TO FREE AFRICA FROM IMPERIALISM

Why They Want Him, Dead!

The Picture: War on Libya is War on Entire Africa
Source: Reuters Edited By: Quoriana
Posted: 2011/07/27

In 2010 Gaddafi offered to invest $97 billion in Africa to free it from Western influence, on condition that African states rid themselves of corruption and nepotism. Gaddafi always dreamed of a Developed, United Africa and was about to make that dream come true - and nothing is more terrifying to the West than a Developed, United Africa.

Here is a selection of the initiatives Libya has already put in place in Africa, as well as some of the projects it is planning, explaining why the West's illegal war against Libya also is a war against Entire Africa.

AFRICAN UNION: Libya is one of the biggest contributors to the budget of the African Union. A Libyan diplomat told Reuters Libya is one of five countries -- the others are Algeria, Egypt, Nigeria and South Africa -- which cover 75 percent of the Union's budget. "Libya makes its full required contribution to AU funds. Not all countries do and that buys it influence," a senior African Union official said.

MALI: For several years Mali has been confronted with the activities of the radical Islamist militia Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb in its northern deserts. Gaddafi’s money and diplomacy have helped to resolve conflicts in northern Mali between rebels and the government. In 2010 Libya has given Mali two security planes to combat insecurity in the north of the country. These conflicts could flare up again if Gaddafi exits the stage. Nowadays Gaddafi has many supporters in Mali who regularly march to protest against the Western-led military intervention in Libya.

CONGO: Libya has put $65 billion into sovereign wealth funds, including one which is specifically designed to make investments in Africa. The Libyan Arab African Investment Company, a vehicle of Libya's Africa sovereign wealth fund, owns Le Meridien, one of the biggest hotels in Congo. The hotel is undergoing refurbishment paid for by Libyan investment. In 2010, Libya planned to fund the building of a highway north of Congo's capital Brazzaville, where also the building of a mosque is planned.

LIBERIA: Libya has provided millions in investment projects, helping to strengthen the rule of President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf in one of Africa’s most impoverished nations. Gaddafi's help includes the funding of a rubber processing factory built in Gbarnga, Bong County, a technical and vocational school for the handicapped, as well as Libyan assistance in helping Liberia tackle the food crisis and renovation for the Ducor Intercontinental Hotel.

NIGER: Also in Niger Gaddafi has helped to prop up the government and the authorities would become more fragile without his financial help. Libyan Prime Minister Al-Baghdadi Ali al-Mahmoudi visited Niger in August 2010 and announced the creation of a $100 million investment fund for Niger as part of a strengthening of bilateral ties. Under earlier agreements, Libya is contributing 100 million euros for the construction of a Trans-Sahara highway in the north of Niger, according to sources close to Niger's foreign ministry. The local subsidiary of Libya Oil, along with Total, are the major players in Niger's fuel retailing business.

CHAD: Gaddafi has been a key supporter of the government, which would weaken if it lost his aid revenue. Chad has been plagued by civil wars and invasions after its independence from France in 1960. After years of unrest, Gaddafi seals a peace agreement for Chad between four Chadian rebel groups and the Chadian government in 2007, which agreement was signed in Sirte.
In 2010 Libya made a huge investment in Chad's National Telecom, which meant a boost of the number of the Chadian mobile phone users from 100,000 to two million.

CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC: Libya has helped to prop up the fragile government, sending paratroopers into the capital in 2001 to defeat a rebel assault. In 2008 Gaddafi played a role in the formation of a peace agreement between the government and rebel groups.

MAURITANIA: Gaddafi was the first head of state to visit after a 2008 coup which brought President Mohamed Ould Abdel Aziz to power. Aziz, who subsequently won a presidential election, has visited Gaddafi several times since then. Even Mauritanian opposition politicians have gone to Tripoli to pledge allegiance to the Libyan leader. Mauritania has debts to Libya of about $200 million. During discussions on debt relief in May 2010, the Libyan Central Bank announced Libya would provide $50 in grants to build a hospital and a university. The university is to be named after Gaddafi.

SUDAN: The 20,000-troop peacekeeping mission in Dafur, jointly supported by the African Union and the United Nations, could be hampered if the African Union (AU) loses funding from Gaddafi and destabilize the country. Gaddafi, who blamed the crisis in Darfur on Israel, made a number of attempts to broker peace talks between Darfur rebels and the Sudanese government.
In October 2010, Gaddafi warned ahead of a vote on possible independence for South Sudan that a partition of the country would be a “contagious disease” that could spread to other African states.

ETHIOPIA: The African Union, based in Ethiopia's capital, could find itself in financial trouble if it loses the massive support that Gaddafi gives it. Under his rule, Libya supplied 15% of the AU’s membership dues, and it also paid the dues of many smaller and poorer African nations. To seek for a solution of the Eritrea-Ethiopia conflict, Gaddafi has sent a special envoy to Ethiopia in 2000. In 2008, Libya's OiLibya bought Shell Ethiopia. This agreement also included retaining all Shell employees, who were hoping to work in a better environment since a long time

SOMALIA: The African Union peace keeping mission, whose 8,000 soldiers are crucial to the battle against Islamic radicals in Somalia's capital Mogadishu, could be severely weakened if the AU lost the financial support of Gaddafi. In 2008 Libya decided to grant an investment fund to Somalia through the Sahel-Saharan Investment and Trade Bank to fund infrastructures such as roads and bridges within Somalia.

GAMBIA: Libyan firms own two hotels and the "Dream Park" entertainment centre in Gambia. Gambian agriculture has received support from Libya, including a donation of seven new tractors. In 2009 Gaddafi gave two camels to Gambian President Yahya Jammeh as a gift. The Libyan and Gambian presidents have exchanged visits and senior Gambian officials attended ceremonies in September to mark the anniversary of Gaddafi coming to power. On September 7, 2009, Gambia celebrated the 40th anniversary of the Al Fateh Revolution: "In Libya everyone enjoys Freedom!".

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A Skype chat I had with an insider:
I don't know how long the charade can go on for
in any case, I expect the rebels to declare victory soon
and what NATO/EU has is Vietnam 2
They will say they have "freed Libya"
and control all the towns
then they will immediately ask NATO to put soldiers on the ground
(who are already there ~8000 admitted)
because if they don't, the rebels are toast
I ask: Well there must be a million more mercs available from the rest of the magreb
they're too disorganised
you need a standing army to occupy a country
rebels continuously fall for traps
they just wait outside for nato to bomb
whenever they try tactics, they end up shooting each other

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You may if lucky catch Cynthia McKinney live tonight; if not, catch her on archive:


Libyan Reggae Safie Galbek. BRAVE PEOPLE OF LIBYA


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1) If you didn't get to hear Mahdi, Dedon, and I live, you can find the discussion here, where we also discuss the Obama Administration's decision to send more "combat ready" troops into Central Africa after having beefed us U.S. troop presence on the ground in Libya. The show is one hour, and we start our discussion at about 31 minutes in--roughly halfway through if you don't have a counter:

http://archive.kpfk.org/parchive/mp3/kpfk_111015_170030freedomnow.MP3

2) Believe NOTHING from the embedded Pentagon spinmeisters who are co-conspirators to genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity. I searched long and deep to find the video posted on youtube that showed Libyan soldiers dancing to Fela and enjoying themselves. I couldn't find it--maybe it's been scrubbed. See if you can find it. Oh, how I wish they were dancing and having fun with each other again, rather than what they have been forced into. Look at the photos of Sirte. Look at what NATO has done. Then, watch this video of the people of Libya bravely resisting the world's most powerful militaries who are reportedly importing UAE, Egyptians, and Tunisians to join the British, French, Jordanian, and Qataris already on the ground fighting for NATO. It makes this operation against the people of Libya sadly an operation that uses Asians and Africans as cannon fodder to achieve a political objective for Europeans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNj0AoX6BcM

3) "Occupy" shows us that the war over there has come home over here. Watch this veteran put NYPD in their places after he witnessed them beating Occupy Wall Street protesters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmEHcOc0Sys


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U.S. Congressman Wants Libya Rebels Investigated on "Crimes Against Humanity."
http://www.blackstarnews.com/news/122/ARTICLE/7627/2011-09-14.html

The slaughter in Sirte
http://wsws.org/articles/2011/oct2011/pers-o03.shtml

Libya: Anti-Gaddafi Fighters Loot, Burn Homes In Sirte
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/05/libya-gaddafi-fighters-lootin g_n_997154.html

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Crisis Libya: Rebels Create Humanitarian Disaster, Then Blame it on Qaddafi
http://www.blacklistednews.com/Libya:_Rebels_Create_Humanitarian_Disas ter,_Then_Blame_it_on_Qaddafi/15842/0/38/38/Y/M.html


16/oct/11 135 NATO Mercenaries killed and 50 captured in Bani Walid ambush
According to new reports at least 135 NATO Mercenaries were killed and 50 captured in a well organized ambush in Bani Walid. The bulk of NATO forces are preoccupied in Sirte where they are receiving heavy casualties, leaving NATO forces in the outskirts of Bani Walid open to ambush and assaults.

NATO Mercenaries have tried to occupy Bani Walid many times, but continue facing devastating defeats. Due to low morals they stopped all attempts indefinitely.


16/sept/11 Sirte: NATO Mercenaries could be heard screaming "Run, run, run!"
NATO Mercenaries were forced to flee once more after a counter attack by Libyan Defense Forces and volunteers. When Libyan Defense Forces conducted the surprise attack, NATO Mercenaries could be heard screaming "Run, run, run!" as they fled back to the Police Headquarters, one of the last safe havens for NATO forces, protected by NATO Special Ops and helicopters.

According to latest reports at least 10 NATO Mercenaries were killed, and 43 injured, 12 critically. The injured were taken to a makeshift hospital in the outskirts of Sirte.

15/oct/11 Dr. Ibrahim Moussa latest message from the resistance
The message was released at 12/oct/11 and was published by Libya Liberal Youth and LibyaSOS

"From today you have the right and the permission to blow up any pipeline that transform the oil to europe, all the pipes that have started working.

Those pipelines have started working on while the blood of libyan people from Sirt , from Sabha and from Bani walid didnt get dry.

... Is the blood of your brothers from Sebha , Sirte and Bani walid not enough to make you wake from your sleep and move as a fire against the rebels of NATO and those that call them selfs NATO, is this not enough for you to stand by the side of the Libyan army and vollounteers and fight against those people (the rebels, NATO ) and the colonialist crusaders, with honour with religion and with mens pride?

From today the defence of Libya is not only on the hands of Libyan army its on the hands of all Libyans."

15/oct/11 October 14 Zero Hour updates
The Abu Saleem neighborhood has been liberated from NATO and the Libyan flag is rising high once again. The clashes began when NATO Mercenaries used automatic weapons against peaceful protesters who were demonstrating against NATO's occupation. Soon after dozens of protesters were killed intense clashes were reported and Green flags started rising over houses and apartments.

(Unconfirmed reports) A NATO helicopter has been brought down in Abu Saleem neighborhood, the helicopter was meant to support NATO Mercenaries in their attempt to occupy the area again.

Protests were also reported in Al Hadba Al Khadra, but turned in to clashes when NATO Mercenaries fired heavy weapons on protesters, martyring one and injuring at least 10.

Green flag was raised over Al-Badri Police College and people in the area joined a peaceful march shouting "Allah, Muammar, Libya wa bas".

At the same day, a large cache of NATO weapons have been seized and destroyed by Libyan Defense Forces in Tripoli to stop NATO Mercenaries fro killing peaceful protesters. The weapons were delivered by Qatar to a Qatari favored Mercenary faction.

Fighting has also been reported around Rexos Hotel, Military Camp 77, Salah Eddin, ben Gashir areas and intense clashes in Green Square.

Many Green flags have been reportedly raised in Gharyan, a town south of Tripoli. The hunt for NATO Mercenary commanders have also began, which explains why top commander in Tripoli has vanished. Some analysts believe that Abdel Hakim Belhaj is dead and others believe he has fled Tripoli with his body guards, fearing an uprising.

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2 Breaking News October 14, 2011 - Libya, NATO Crimes In Libya


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‘NATO has bombed Libya back to Stone Age’
RT - Published: 19 October, 2011, 22:21
http://rt.com/news/nato-libya-machon-former-219/

Former MI5 agent Annie Machon says that the US wants to reinforce the myths that public has been told about NATO’s ‘humanitarian’ intervention, while Libya is being bombed beyond the point of no return.
During her visit to Libya, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has used unusually blunt terms to describe what the United States wants to see happen in Libya, namely former dictator Muammar Gaddafi being killed or captured.
Machon says even though Gaddafi was an odious dictator and a thorn in the side of Western countries for three decades, for the majority of Libyans their quality of life was perfectly fine.
“They’ve had free education, free health, they could study abroad. When they got married they got a certain amount of money. So they were rather the envy of many other citizens of African countries. Now, of course, since NATO’s humanitarian intervention the infrastructure of their country has been bombed back to the Stone Age. They will not have the same quality of life. Women probably will not have the same degree of emancipation under any new transitional government. The national wealth is probably going to be siphoned off by Western corporations. Perhaps the standard of living in Libya might have been slightly higher than it perhaps is now in America and the UK with the recession,” she said.
Machon agrees the US have been quite unashamed in their statements about wanting regime change in Libya, which she believes is highly illegal.
“It is also interesting to see that they are saying this openly when, of course, in the 1990s they were trying to assassinate him covertly through proxy organizations in Libya,” she said.
NATO countries have sent advisors to Libya and Machon believes that it was done to insure that humanitarian aid and human rights are upheld. However that might prove to be difficult. She says that nobody seems to be really trying to protect civilians in Benghazi or Sirte. Advisors or not, “Libya is descending into one awful mess.”
“Let’s not forget that the UN sanctions change of heart was put in place now on very dubious moral grounds – unsubstantiated rumors of genocide in Benghazi,”
she argued.
“[Advisors] are probably going there to try and help, but what’s been going on in places like Sirte has been breathtaking hypocrisy. NATO goes in to bomb Gaddafi’s regime out of existence because they are threatening civilians in Benghazi. And now we are looking at a whole range of human rights abuses.”

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WESTERN SAHARA: THE LAST COLONY IN AFRICA

For over 20 years the people of Western Sahara have been denied their basic right to self-determination. The Saharawi, the indigenous people of Western Sahara, have watched as other former colonies have gained their independence.
WESTERN SAHARA—THE BACKGROUND

Western Sahara is on the North West coast of Africa between Morocco and Mauritania where the Sahara desert meets the Atlantic Ocean. During the colonial occupation of Africa the Spanish colonised the area and it was known as Spanish Sahara. In 1973 the POLISARIO Front launched a war of liberation. Morocco and Mauritania also laid claim to the country.
The territorial claims of neighbouring countries were examined by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) who delivered their verdict in 1975. The verdict confirmed that the Saharawi should be allowed to express their right to self-determination through a referendum. Within months of the ICJ verdict Morocco and Mauritania invaded. Much of the local population fled into the desert. Today, 20 years later, over 150,000 Saharawi still live in refugee camps in an area of desert in South West Algeria near Tindouf.
In 1979 Mauritania withdrew its claim to Western Sahara but Morocco swiftly occupied the whole country. Under the leadership of the POLISARIO Front the Saharawi continued the armed struggle for self-determination. The struggle has been long and difficult and the world largely ignored their claim for self-determination during the cold war.
Morocco has consistently refused to reconsider the legitimacy of its claim to Western Sahara. There has also been well documented evidence of human rights abuse against the Saharawi who still live in Western Sahara.
THE UNITED NATIONS—A NEW WORLD ORDER?

The conflict over Western Sahara provides an opportunity for the UN to demonstrate its capacity to overcome the legacy of the Cold War. There has been much talk of the new world order but this has not been delivered for the people of Western Sahara.

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Gaddafi 'killed, died of wounds': Video of Sirte celebrations


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Captured Gaddafi covered in blood - FIRST PHOTO
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NTC military chief Bel Haj has confirmed that Colonel Gaddafi has been killed. The fugitive leader died of wounds sustained during his capture near Sirte. Earlier the NTC reported Gaddafi was captured and wounded in both legs.


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Why MUST Gaddafi really die?


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LEFTIST-NATIONALISTS AND ANTI-ZIONISTS FOR COLONEL MUAMMAR AL-GADDAFI!

Read "The Green Book" online: http://911-truth.net/other-books/Muammar-Qaddafi-Green-Book-Eng.pdf

NATO Crimes in Tripoli: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhJWulXIFao

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http://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=09TRIPOLI71

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2009/03/03/libya-oil-idUKL35911262009030 3

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article5776215.ece

http://www.energy-pedia.com/article.aspx?articleid=134161

http://mercurymail.blogspot.com/

http://www.answercoalition.org/sf/news/why-the-nato-powers-are.html

http://libya.usembassy.gov/uploads/images/Ctlb_B9GauiYq1ai9cp4AQ/02110 8_-_2008_Country_Commercial_Guide.pdf

http://twelfthbough.blogspot.com/2011/03/virtually-unknown-in-west-lib yas-water.html

http://colonel6.com/2011/07/23/nato-invades-libya-to-stop-the-gold-din ar-for-african-union/

http://www.goldbuzzer.com/is-gold-the-real-reason-for-nato-s-action-in -libya/47

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NATO: aircraft struck Gaddafi vehicles near Sirte
http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/10/20/idINIndia-60020320111020
BRUSSELS | Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:46pm IST
(Reuters) - NATO said its aircraft attacked two military vehicles near Muammar Gaddafi's last holdout of Sirte on Thursday, but that it could not confirm reports these had been carrying Gaddafi.
"At approximately 0830 local time (0630 GMT) today, NATO aircraft struck two pro-Gaddafi forces military vehicles which were part of a larger group moving in the vicinity of Sirte," NATO military spokesman Colonel Roland Lavoie said. "These armed vehicles were conducting military operations and presented a clear threat to civilians."
Another NATO official said the alliance had not been able to confirm whether the air strike hit a convoy that Gaddafi was reported to have been in.
Earlier, a military official of Libya's ruling National Transitional Council, Abdel Majid Mlegta, told Reuters that Gaddafi had been captured and wounded in both legs at dawn on Thursday as he tried to flee in a convoy that NATO warplanes attacked.
A senior NTC military official later said Gaddafi died of wounds suffered in his capture.
NATO said on Thursday it was seeking confirmation from the NTC of reports that Gaddafi had been captured or killed in Libya, but said this could take some time. NATO says it does not target individuals unless they are a threat to civilians.
"We haven't been able to confirm these reports," a different NATO official said. "The situation is just too fluid. Events like this on the ground -- only the NTC would be able to confirm If it is true, then this is truly a historic day for the people of Libya."
NATO took over a U.N.-mandated military operation to protect civilians on March 31, since when it has been conducting air strikes and enforcing a no-fly zone in Libya, as well as enforcing an arms embargo through naval patrols.
The situation in Gaddafi's last holdout in Sirte would be a big factor in deciding when to end the mission, NATO officials said this week. They said the decision would be based on an assessment of the ability of the NTC to maintain security.
NATO ambassadors meeting on Wednesday put off a decision because of caution by countries such as Britain and France, which have been at the forefront of the intervention.
(Reporting By David Brunnstrom; Editing by Sebastian Moffett and Mark Heinrich)

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Was it Illegal to Kill Gaddafi?
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Colonel Gaddafi has been killed in Libya after 42 years of a brutal dictatorship. The Libyan people will be celebrating tonight but if, as appears likely, he was killed after suffering wounds from a Nato aircraft it raises questions about the legality of the bombing campaign in Libya.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/joe-dyke/gaddafi-death-illegal-nato_b_ 1022132.html

The malice of the approach to his death has been troubling: Clinton's comment wishing for his death just amplified it. The media parade of Gaddafi's corpse only reinforces it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shirin-sadeghi/gaddafi-killed_b_1022386. html
Again, if an enemy is already known as a brutal and violent dictator with bizarre lifestyle choices and a record of bloodshed, is it truly necessary to denigrate him -- and by extension the people of his country and region?
And was it really necessary for Clinton to feign ignorance and distance from the death she called for just two days earlier?
If the United States is a leader of nations, if its government is the most democratic and just, then the world is left to wonder why such an esteemed government has conducted itself -- yet again -- as its lowest enemies have: with pretense, lack of civility, and casual acceptance of violence.

French planes stopped Gaddafi convoy
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20111020/world/french-planes -stopped-gaddafi-convoy.390040?
Thursday, October 20, 2011, 20:29
French warplanes identified and "stopped" a convoy of vehicles carrying Muammar Gaddafi before he was killed in clashes in Libya, French Defence Minister Gerard Longuet said.
The convoy of several dozen vehicles "was stopped from progressing as it sought to flee Sirte but was not destroyed by the French intervention," Longuet told journalists.
Libyan fighters then intervened, destroying the vehicles, from which "they took out Colonel Gaddafi," he added.
He said French planes were sent to the area after news emerged of a large convoy of up to 80 vehicles trying to flee Sirte.
He said a French Mirage-2000 "was informed by the integrated general staff (of NATO) of the need for an intervention to prevent this column from advancing."
He said the plane then intervened and managed to separate some vehicles from the convoy, which were then confronted by fighters from Libya's National Transitional Council.
"In these clashes, vehicles were destroyed, people were wounded and killed and it was among them that... Gaddafi was a part," he said.

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