David Shayler - Manchurian Candidate?

[Rowan Berkeley]

they would home in the 'chav' theory - they could maybe get Julie Burchill to write a few lines.

[JimB]

[John White]

[rodin]

[moeen yaseen]

DISASSOCIATION FROM SHAYLER


For the first time John White has uttered something sensible.

[John White]

[moeen yaseen]

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[paul wright]

What???Shayler can be forgiven or accepted for his Messiah moment. Perhaps he is,perhaps he ain't, perhaps it's only what his channeler told him.
Where does Belinda come into that? For speaking of her inside Knowledge? That Iran is a pestilencial regime like many others in fake opposition to the hegemony?

[moeen yaseen]

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[moeen yaseen]

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[John White]

[moeen yaseen]

DISASSOCIATION FROM SHAYLER

There was a repetition of the same post thrice which has been rectified.
Leaving aside whether you are sensible or otherwise your remarks about NOT practising REVISIONISM on this forum need to be rebutted as I will not allow a moderator to whitewash TRUTH. To be moderator is not a Divine right but has responsibilities. For that matter I am prepared to publish a current internal email circular in my possession and others. No consent was given by those contributing to the thread inlcusive of myself , Keith Mothersson and Kevin Barrett of MUJCA(USA). The jist of the thread was challenging Belinda McKenzie's abuse, character assasination and Islamophobia. So NO consent was given to withdraw it. You better ask Ian Neal to defend his unilateral arbitrary action. Let us stick to the facts and not beat around the bush.
The point that is being made is that you claim to be against historic revisionism. vis a vis Shayler. Well the point I am making is that there was a clear violation of this principle by those running this forum. That can not be WHITEWASHED away mate. Keith Mothersson will only be too pleased to repost the entire thread as it is relevant in terms of challenging ISLAMOPHOBIA. If you want to argue be careful; extremely careful on the ground you are walking upon in case you fall into the quicksand of falsehoods.

Happy Truth Seeking

[John White]

Oh good grief. Post what you like, pick a scrap, re-open old wounds, it still doesnt mean your getting your way just becuase you demand it, and just shows you up as more interested in division than unity. Maybe this time we will go "sod it: we removed it: your playing silly buggers putting it back up: so you can damn well live with it and stuff your objections! Esepcially if you think you can wheel it out as some sword of solomon everytime you want to impose your will on the campaign"

There's always one. Your the hypocrite trying to use what is efectively emotional blackmail to lever your point over Shayler, and I don't respect you for it. Shame on You!

In case you dont understand this, the Campaign no more belongs to moeen yaseen than it belongs to dave shayler!

If you have a desire to see the campaign go a certain way, get off your own butt and do the work of creating consensus!

[Anthony Lawson]

Talking to 'God' is okay. Listening to 'Him' is not?

[Rowan Berkeley]

I find the use of this term extremely odd. It suggests that some sort of anti nazi rant is acting as MY's subcode, despite being utterly irrelevant.

[karlos]

David Shayler's name still appears at the front page of this website. So isnt it time to remove that link?
I say it is.

[Tamborine man]

Joined: 10 Aug 2007
Posts: 1
Location: Qld. Australia
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:30 am Post subject: Messiah, her I come..... too!


Wonder if any quite understood the intention of my post in the 'Messiah
forum', as no comment was seen, so will post it again with a little
explanatory addendum:


I too, am the reincarnation of Jesus of Nazareth, King Arthur and da Vinci.

But as I'm not quite as modest as D. S., let me bluntly state that I'm also
the reincarnation of, Zoroaster, Hermes Trismegistus, Socrates, Plato,
Boethius, William BLake, Duhrer, Kierkegaard, H.C. Andersen,
Kahlil Gibran, Piet Hein, Jørn Utzon, etc. etc.

But of course, and obviously, I'm also the reincarnation of Emily dickenson,
Elizabeth Barret browning, Isak Dinesen, Mother Teresa, Marilyn Monroe etc.
- and not least Christina Rosetti.

This latter dear sweetheart wrote the following poem, and which many in
this forum should carefully read, but of course, won't do at all, due to
certain flaws, like immaturity and no understanding, in their make-up:


I saw a vision of a woman, where
Night and new morning strive for domination;
Incomparably pale, and almost fair,
And sad beyond expression.

I stood upon the outer barren ground,
She stood on inner ground that budded flowers;
While circling in their never-slackening round
Danced by the mystic hours.

But every flower was lifted on a thorn,
And every thorn shot upright from its sands
To gall her feet; hoarse laughter pealed in scorn
With cruel clapping hands.

She bled and wept, yet did not shrink; her strength
Was strung up until daybreak of delight:
She measured measureless sorrow toward its length,
And breadth, and depth, and height.

Then marked I how a chain sustained her form,
A chain of living links not made nor riven:
It streched sheer up through lighting, wind, and storm,
And anchored fast in heaven.

One cried: "How long? Yet founded on the rock
She shall do battle, suffer, and attain."
One answered: "Faith quakes in the tempest shock:
Strengthen her soul again."

I saw a cup sent down and come to her
Brimful of loathing and of bitterness:
She drank with livid lips that seemed to stir
The depth, not make it less.

But as she drank I spied a hand distil
New wine and virgin honey; making it
First bitter-sweet, then sweet indeed, until
She tasted only sweet.

Her lips and cheeks waxed rosy-fresh and young;
Drinking she sang: "My soul shall nothing want";
And drank anew: while soft a song was sung,
A mystical slow chant.


So, yes. I also need tender loving help and care from all you amazingly
selfless, concerned, and so clever and insightful people in this thread.

__________

The word 'Messiah' has, as you know, two meanings. It not only means
'The anointed One', but also 'God's emissary' or 'God's messenger'.

As we all know, the term 'The anointed One', applies solely to J.C.,
whereas 'God's emisarry' has a wider range.

David Shayler believes that he is a messenger from God. He therefore
believes that God is totally on the side of the socalled 'truthseekers'.

Contrary to this belief stands the little junior bush, who also believes that
he is a messenger from god. (for did not god himself pay a little visit to
this man in the oval office! ..... so there you are!)
So bush jr. therefore, believes that his god is on the side of the neocons.

Who is right? - For this is in reality all it boils down to!
Who, to be honest, do you really back, in this little game??

And, do you all, in all sincerity, really believe that David seriously think
that he is the reincarnation of king Arthur - a legendary figure!!
Or, having no real talent for painting, seriously think that he is the
reincarnation of da Vinci!!
If so, then its perhaps you guys that are in dire need of a little help -
sort of..... seriously!!


PS!
Ateists, agnostics and other 3-dimensional people cannot, of course, be
asked to make a choice or participate herein, but are naturally more
than welcome to continue with what they are best at: .....ridicule and
scorn!



Love
Tamborine man.
_________________
What IS can never die

[blackcat]

[Tamborine man]

[/quote]
Thanks for recognising "us" as being three-dimensional. Did I detect a
smidgin of ridicule and scorn in your post? If you can explain to me why I
should not ridicule beliefs such as a virgin birth, God giving messages by
burning a bush, Jesus walking on water and a multitude of other "beliefs"
then I will gladly drop my scorn. It is just that when I witness the pictures
from Iraq of children deformed by depleted Uranium weapons or
smashed to pieces with limbs hanging off because Christian
fundamentalists, their leaders urged on by God, and Jews (God's Chosen
People), driven by a history that explains how God gave them the land in
the middle east, I feel that a little scorn is appropriate. I hope you can
find it in you heart to forgive me. I sense that you are a "religious"
person so I am optimistic that you will deign to be so gracious.

[mason-free party]

why doesn't Shayler realise that all this channelled sh-ite is a speciality of the Glastonbury Symposium crew...wasn't it Palden Jenkens the overseer of GS who wrote the book 'the only planet of choice' which contains channeled stuff from council of Nine and is a new age psyop originating from the UN shills...come on Dave..wake up,you've been duped by these spiritual wolves

[Mick Meaney]

[jomper]

[blackcat]

[Anthony Lawson]

Rubbishing a Human Being

[Mark Gobell]

[fish5133]

Have just returned from a weeks "spiritual" holiday by Dartmoor (not realising it is the home of David Shayler)

For those doing their own research

The Messiah Jesus Christ warned in the bible that in the last days many will come saying they are The Messsiah and that the followers of Christs teachings should not be deceived and go and follow these false messiahs.
Luke 21v 8. Matthew 24v4, Mark 13v 6

A Sound Mind and Life

Christ also suggested how we should develop a sound mind in Phillipians 4 v 8. "Think on things true, honest, pure, lovely, of good report, virtouous, praise worthy". Useful advice in very difficult and confusing times.

Also in Romans 8 v 6 Christ says " to be spiritually minded is life and peace". However the bible is also clear that not all "spirits " are good or helpful Deutoronomy 18 v 9-12

IMO with all David has gone through he has perhaps been filling or had his mind filled with things that are none of the above. As drugs have side effects so do some "spiritual" remedies.

[Easy Rider]

[Mark Gobell]

[mason-free party]

it looks to me the Glastonbury Symposium sucked Shayler in..found out he was an anti zionist and decided we want nothing to do with this guy..got a pyschic to do a hit job on him like judy hall did with Icke and now they can get on with the grand master plan without Shayler rocking the zionist Ark..

[John White]