9/11 Whistleblower Richard Andrew Grove Comes Forward

[orestes]

Why does the link take me to a page saying website under construction? Does it work for everyone else?

[Richard Andrew Grove]

To anyone who has encountered issues at 8thestate.com... my sincere apologies. For those of you who are impatient and negative:

Firstly: My apologies for not having more resources... this is a do-it yourself shop, and only recently have i had someone volunteer to be responsible for creating/posting/organizing a website so the YOU might get some quality information. I'm already familiar with my story, don't be such a critic.

Secondly: My apologies for hiding my radio interviews under "interviews", We're working on a "start here" page, to lead people through complex ideas (which apparently without my help) people were not able to compose and share themselves. By the Way, Marsh has offices in London, I've been there with people and in Lloyd's... so you have some hometown homework to do... this is not a problem isolated to the U.S.

Thirdly: If i don't read some comments showing geniune interest, I'll assume that there is no reason for me to continue attempting to help the (silent) others who seem to let a couple of impatient and un-empathetical personalities take unsolicited pot shots.

I'm not here to make $, or impress people with my "website", and I'm certainly not going to take * from a couple of virtual personalities... if you are interested in Data Mining, reading, listening, and hearing for yourself... then please bear with the "under construction" environment at www.8thestate.com

If not, then pick up the phone and call with your problems; I'll work them out with you directly. Grow up, Act as If; and honestly- the only people i've ever thought are DISINFO/COINTELPRO/Agents Provocateur are those who attack the messengers, because they cannot even begin to attack the Message.

Call me Sour on the British 9/11 Truth Movement thus far, but I'm keeping an open mind and hoping that someone from your ranks will liaise with some respect, and possibly even some gratitude.

Otherwise, i'll be referecing chapter 18 of the Prince, since it seems that old Nic must have gotten his meme into some good souls who once upon a time were looking for Truth... that's right, you might have to go look that up.

Sorry to those of you who are not attacking the Messenger....

RG

[scubadiver]

Well, well, well the man himself.

But how do we know its you for real, LOL

I posted on your site saying that others suggested you are a disinfo. Seems to have done something.

Assuming you are the real RG, I tried listening to your interview that was recorded for Meria's show.

I thought, and still think, your language is far too sophisticated and it is very difficult to understand your argument. There is no clear link between what you said and 9/11.

Posters suggest on here that 9/11 was used as a diversion to steal gold bullion. It is acknowledged that this happened but I personally think that people used the diversion to try to steal the gold (rather than the other way around).

Though I have watched Matthew Ruppert's video and "WKJO" on google video, it does suggest some links to what you say I am not entirely convinced by your argument.

my 2 cents

[Richard Andrew Grove]

Nice to be here, thanks for being Critical yet polite.

Don't get distracted by the "bullion", keep your hand on the magician's electronic transactions, investigate Jerome Hauer, Eliot Spitzer, Michael Cherkasky, Hank Greenberg, Marsh, AIG and the Drug Trade.

It's all about laundering, plausible denial, and hiding what they don't want us to find... but already have.

Re: "being too complex" that "interview" was actually a virtual meeting that i was circulating for over a month before Meria Heller listened and sent out to the World... so it wasn't created for the average listener... but for experts on 9-11, and even most of them find it too concentrated; the important thing is that the info is out... and being digested... we'll work on making it simpler, through interactions like this.

The point is... there are caucasian corporate criminals run amok, and most people here in the states are intent on blaming people of (any) color, other than the domestic terrorists responsible.

What i'm doing is about ending the Hypocrisy that Kills thousands around the world; originating here in the U.S. because We, the People, have been dumbed down by the mass-media and corresponding "official story".

If you listen to the more recent interviews (June 12, 13 and WKJO's Ty Rauber on the 19th...) you'll have a much better flavor for what's going on... the "original" message (which was named Project Constellation) was only created as a tool through which to communicate to enlist resources.

Keep the questions coming... I invite skepticism, just be skeptical about the points critical to solving the riddle, and let's focus on not getting distracted... Distraction is the chief tool of our enemy, we should not use it among ourselves; when we should all be here asking... Who, and Why- not arguing about easily resolved details.

Looking Forward,

Richard

[TimmyG]

hi richard
welcome to the forum

I'm not attacking you, the messenger. I'm just voicing my suspicions.