Can Airliner Impacts Destroy Towers?

[John White]

Life isnt fair Ignatz: but this whole thread is a critics corner thread anyway. It does people good to debate the core evidence

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[marky 54]

was'nt the building connected to the core as well as the outer wall?
how can the top portion tip like that without the core failing first or being cut?

from watching the video material being moved away from underneath is the only thing that stops it tilting, as the gravity forces shift at that point making the building fall downward instead of toppling over.

i dont see how the toppling can be stopped by the core, surely the building would'nt of toppled at all with core failure first or being cut from the bottom section giving it freedom to move.

[Patrick Brown]

Cheers John!!!

Just starting to have a real discussion about EVIDENCE and then bang!

This forum gets more like this >>>> by the day: http://stuffucanuse.com/fake_moon_landings/moon_landings.htm

[rodin]

The only way to explain the observed tilt is as I have shown - pivoting about the core. That is pure geometry and cannot be denied. Ask any freemason...

The pivot point is well above the level where fuel as spilled. If it did soften and buckle as Patrick suggested it would have to have done so at that point.

The OCT has jet fuel spilling down the elevator shafts, not being pumped up against gravity to a higher level.

[rodin]

Perhaps if we get a Debating Chamber as I suggested the tilt can be one of the threads. It is a very interesting feature of the collapse.

Please note: if we do Debating Chamber then off-topic posts and ad hominems should simply be sin binned into a rogues gallery - perhaps a mirror Anti Debating Chamber set of threads with all the rubbish and shilling in plain sight.

[rodin]

[Patrick Brown]

[rodin]

[marky 54]

my experiance so far has been to believe the OCT find out something is strange do some research and end up going full circle to the OCT again, i then took a break for a few months came back and looked at each point again and concluded a new investigastion was needed.

however i aint sure who was involved although i am convinced conspiracy theory is being pushed or encouraged at least by our goverments if they were not involved. it is their lies(vapourised planes) and failure to release all the footage from the pentagon ect(if they show a plane or not) to put peoples minds at rest, NIST engineer denying molten metal totally at ground zero adding to the conspiracy theory fuel ect ect. there are many more examples.

however there are things wrong with the offical story and the only people who can give a new investigastion IS the US goverment and whilst they fail to do so when people see there is reason to its obvious people will get frustrated with them and aim the blame at them.

we are all in a no win situation if you believe the offical version or not, if the truth comes out there will be choas if it dosnt then most likely loss of freedom and police states and even world war 3(iran) and whatever else may be planned. regardless of if you are a critic or truther there is no running away from the fact that 9/11 is going to dictate our future one way or another.

nothing makes any sense anymore, its hard to know what to trust for the best. but the offical story dosnt add up, maybe thats on purpose may its just been exposed to many without meaning to be, it could be a no win situation ie: whoever planned this planned for both outcomes in order to seize power and both sides are working towards the same goal, it dosnt matter to them. i may be wrong but there is certainly something going off.

[marky 54]

my experiance so far has been to believe the OCT find out something is strange do some research and end up going full circle to the OCT again, i then took a break for a few months came back and looked at each point again and concluded a new investigastion was needed.

however i aint sure who was involved although i am convinced conspiracy theory is being pushed or encouraged at least by our goverments if they were not involved. it is their lies(vapourised planes) and failure to release all the footage from the pentagon ect(if they show a plane or not) to put peoples minds at rest, NIST engineer denying molten metal totally at ground zero adding to the conspiracy theory fuel ect ect. there are many more examples.

however there are things wrong with the offical story and the only people who can give a new investigastion IS the US goverment and whilst they fail to do so when people see there is reason to its obvious people will get frustrated with them and aim the blame at them.

we are all in a no win situation if you believe the offical version or not, if the truth comes out there will be choas if it dosnt then most likely loss of freedom and police states and even world war 3(iran) and whatever else may be planned. regardless of if you are a critic or truther there is no running away from the fact that 9/11 is going to dictate our future one way or another.

nothing makes any sense anymore, its hard to know what to trust for the best. but the offical story dosnt add up, maybe thats on purpose may its just been exposed to many without meaning to be, it could be a no win situation ie: whoever planned this planned for both outcomes in order to seize power and both sides are working towards the same goal, it dosnt matter to them. i may be wrong but there is certainly something going off.

[rodin]

Marky - what a ramble!

We are many, they are few. This 'society will collapse unless we let them get away with it' is a new tack I spotted on another forum today.

FEAR of TRUTH?

Gimme death or freedom, I say, and if enough agree we will have the b****ds.

footnote

Police in London are carrying guns and pulling people over because of 3 quick succession shootings of young people. Do you want let the manufactured terror police state crystallise around you, or resist?

You said 'I don't know who to believe'

The answer is no-one. Think for yourself.

[marky 54]

[Johnny Pixels]

[rodin]

[Johnny Pixels]

[rodin]

Lets discuss madness.

I know a guy who thinks Arab terrorists did 911 even after seeing the evidence linked from this site and others.

[Johnny Pixels]

[marky 54]

[marky 54]

so to carry on from above are they allowing the problem to get worse to bring in restrictions=police state? or are they doing ALL they can to stop the problem from stage 1?

[TonyGosling]

Answer.
No.

Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD69sP51u-s

[psikeyhackr]

The curious thing is that "experts" should have resolved this in 2002.

I have been looking for this video for ages. I saw it on television before there was an Internet. Professor Farquharson made a model of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge to study the oscillations. The model was built before the actual collapse but they knew the wind was the cause of the problem. They did not know the wind could eventually destroy bridge, they just thought the oscillations were dangerous to people crossing the bridge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB008RAluyg
Tacoma Bridge (with explaination) - YouTube

The model first appears at 2:45 but they did not test it to destruction.

Unfortunately the video is in German. I am pretty sure what I saw years ago was not in German.

If this modelling can be done for that bridge then something very similar could be done to test the north tower collapse. That model is 54 ft long and at 1/200th scale. And they did not have 3-D printers in 1940. A 1/100th scale model of the north tower would only be 13.7 feet tall.

http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm-ayp/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/fa rquharson&CISOPTR=17&CISOBOX=1&REC=19
Pic of Tacoma Model

http://www.bechtel.com/wind_tunnel_tested.html

psik