7/7 'truther' author Nick Kollerstrom is a Nazi Apologist

[Rory Winter]

On the Anti-semitism that led to Two Holocausts, Past & Present


Shock & Awe Holocaust

While I do not wish, in any way, to belittle the Shoa or Holocaust of the 1940s I am amazed at the way the more recent Muslim Holocaust (1991 to the present) is --and I am tempted to say wilfully-- ignored by even those who might consider themselves to be liberals, of the left or of the anti-war movement. It isn't as if the figures to prove that Holocaust are not there. The Australian scientist, academic, lecturer, writer, author and artist, Dr Gideon Polya published these figures almost a year ago and his web-article is available at http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11670

Dr Polya has also published a huge pharmacological text entitled Biochemical Targets of Plant Bioactive Compounds. A pharmacological reference guide to sites of action and biological effects (London & New York). He previously published a detailed book entitled Jane Austen and the Black Hole of British History. Colonial rapacity, holocaust denial and the crisis in biological sustainability (Melbourne, 1998).

The latter dealt with the 2-century atrocity of British rule over India culminating in the man-made Bengal Famine of 1943/44 that killed 4 million people but which has been largely deleted from British histriography in a continuing process of sustained, racist, holocaust denial. His most recent book, Body Count, documents the similarly non-reported avoidable death of 1.3 billion people since 1950 on Spaceship Earth with the First World in control of the flight deck --for further details of Body Count, see http://globalbodycount.blogspot.com

Why is it then that the West is so obsessed with events that took place over half a century ago while it blocks out the reality of what is going on right now before us & as this post is being written? I would maintain that in both cases it is because the First World or what preceded it in Europe remains stubbornly in denial of its anti-semitic past as well as the new anti-semitism it practises against the Muslim world.

At an extreme level we can see this caricatured in the traditionally anti-semitic, racist BNP allying itself with a Jewish Zionist in the hope of attracting Jewish votes! The new tactic of the opportunist BNP, it appears, is no longer an anti-semitism levelled at Jews but of one against Muslims. While at one level this appears to be totally opportunistic at another it gives us a fascinating if not horrific insight into the darker corners of the European psyche in which the racial memories of persecution against both Jews and Muslims remains embedded.


Crusading against the Antichrist

Europe has never really owned the huge karmic debt it created for itself in what we appropriately call the Dark Ages. As a result, it was condemned to relive those horrors, first through the Holocaust of the Nazis and now the Holocaust committed by the Anglo-Saxon Alliance, the new Nazis, against that other semitic people the Iraqis and the partly-semitic people of Afghanistan. Somewhere in the European mind a myth was formed centuries ago of the crusading Christian who would prevail over the shifty and usurious Jew as well as the fanatical Mohammedan.

Hitler constantly used the first caricature and described himself as a Christian doing the work of the Lord. How different was his claim to the one we hear from today's Christian Zionists who seek to pressure US Presidents to attack Iran and bring on a final, nuclear Armageddon? And both the current US and UK governments have carried out a calculated and sustained campaign ever since the fabricated 911 incident to demonise, scapegoat and terrorise Muslims as fanatics and devils.

None of this, I believe, could have been possible if it were not for the Myth of the Crusading Christ that runs so deeply in the psyche of the Anglo-American and primarily Protestant mind. The psychiatrist, Carl Gustav Jung, argued that the everyday lives of humans have always been governed by one or another form of Myth. Myths, he said, are important symbols of meaning to the human psyche. Without acknowledging the importance of that inner world, men would find themselves empty of meaning. Something else would fill the vacuum which had been previously filled by the old myths. He warned that that was happening with the growth of fascism and the new myth of the strongman Dictator.

But it is interesting that even the strongman Dictators found themselves having to cash-in on the popular Christian myth that turns the Jew into the Antichrist by blaming Christ's death on the Cross on the Jews! Basically the same myth that Sacha Baron Cohen alludes to while singing his outrageous song, Throw the Jew down the Well, to gullible American rednecks. Anti-semitism against both Jews and Muslims dwells deep down in the Anglo-American and European psyche.


Two Sociopaths of a Kind

The current political correctness over the Shoa Holocaust originates in the feelings of guilt that Europeans still collectively feel about the brutal reality of where that anti-semitism led them to sixty years ago. It was easy enough to blame it all on the Germans, a defeated nation. And especially so as it was an Austrian that the Germans had allowed to lead them into the Nightmare. But before the coming of Hitler, German anti-semitism was really no different in nature to European anti-semitism in general, including that of Britain, immortalised in Shakespeare's evil Shylock and past pogroms.

The great irony is that while it is now politically correct to genuflect in atonement of their past sins against the Jewish people, Anglo-Americans project their inner guilt by murdering millions of those other semites, the Muslims, while at the same time seeking to revile and demonise them as terrorists and criminals! In tribal wars you have to do this. You have to justify your lust for murder by blaming it all on the evils of those you are just about to murder. The Zionists, on the other hand, seem to have no problems working with today's anti-semites. Why should they after having worked so closely with Hitler before?

It is totally understandable that the children of the victims of the Shoa should never forget how their parents and grandparents were murdered in the name of some absurd political dogma. But it is equally understandable that the relatives (if there are any left) of the eight million Muslims who died during the Anglo-Saxon coalition's Shock and Awe tactics in Iraq and Afghanistan should feel the same. The West rightly tried and punished earlier war criminals who happened also to be on the defeated side. How long, I wonder, and under what circumstances of a required defeat will it be before the war criminals of the West are similarly tried and punished?

[ian neal]

[blackcat]

[karlos]

[ianrcrane]

The vitriolic, arrogant, self-righteous individual, responsible for this pathetic ad hominem attack on Nick Kollestom is completely in character.

... no surprises there then, eh?

Nick, I may or may not agree with your views on any given topic ... but I will do whatever it takes for you to hold and articulate those views without fear of persecution.

The moment any particular dogma or 'received wisdom' becomes the basis for required 'group-think', I am immediately motivated to investigate why it is that orthodoxy feels so threatened by any counter view.

Ian R. Crane

[xmasdale]

[astro3]

Mr Moderator -
I do urge you to delete at least some of these rants by Mr Dogsmilk. They violate the code of politeness and respect that is supposed to prevail on this site. I spent quite a bit of time and effort in answering his queries, and just get him yelling more of his scorn, abuse and slimy accusations at me. Maybe that is the only way he can reason, I don’t know. Or otherwise just delete this whole thread. I'm not coming back here otherwise.

Mr Moderator, if you are going to permit your website to be polluted with personal insult such as I’ve here received from JohnnyVoid and Mr Dogsmilk, then you ought to stop calling it a Truth forum, because there is no way you can expect ‘truth’ to emerge from such a process - rather the contrary.

I’m sure Mr Dogsmilk feels better after unloading his semi-coherent rage onto this site, against me, but in my view you ought not to allow this site to be used in this manner. I don't reckon he has made the slightest effort to understand my point of view.

[conspiracy analyst]

[Rory Winter]

Well said, Conspiracy Analyst. We've had our differences in the past but, leaving all that aside, I admire your generosity & integrity on this issue. I am sorry you lost your relatives in that absurd war.

[Dogsmilk]

[Rory Winter]

I just think it's so terribly sad that whilst so many of us are keen to fight over the minutiae of the past the horrors of the present-day are left ignored ... perhaps to be discussed fifty years hence by others like us who will be equally obsessed with arguing the toss about the details. It reminds me of Brecht's poem (circa 1937), The Buddhas' Parable of the Burning House, in which he concludes:

Lately I saw a house. It was burning. The flame
Licked at its roof. I went up close and observed
That there were people still inside. I opened the door and called
Out to them that the roof was ablaze, so exhorting them
To leave at once. But those people
Seemed in no hurry. One of them
When the heat was already scorching his eyebrows
Asked me what it was like outside, whether it wasn't raining

Whether the wind wasn't blowing perhaps, whether there was
Another house for them, and more of this kind. Without answering
I went out again. These people here, I thought
Need to burn to death before they stop asking questions.
Truly friends,
Unless a man feels the ground so hot underfoot that he'd
Exchange it for any other, sooner than stay, to him
I have nothing to say. Thus Gautama the Buddha.

But we too, no longer concerned with the art of submission
Rather with that of not submitting, and putting forward
Various proposals of an earthly nature, and beseeching men to shake off
Their human tormentors, we too believe that to those
Who in face of the approaching bomber squadrons of Capital go on asking too long
How we propose to do this, and how we envisage that
And what will become of their savings and Sunday trousers after a revolution
We have nothing much to say.


***************************************
Title: The Buddha's parable of the burning house
Source: Gleichnis des Buddha vom brennenden Haus (1937)
Translator: Hamburger, Michael
Citation: Poems 1913-1956 (290-292)
Editor: Willett, John / Manheim, Ralph
Author: Brecht, Bertolt, 1898-1956
Publisher: London, England: Methuen
Date: 1976
Description: From: Svendborg Poems. Same as Bad Time for Poetry (85-86), ed. J. Willett, Methuen, 1995.
Subjects: Poem
BBA: A 183
GBA: 12 / 36-7
Is Part Of: Brecht's Works in English: A Bibliography
Submitter: University of Wisconsin. Dept. of German
Local Identifier: BrechtGuide.01019.bib

THE BUDDHA'S PARABLE OF THE BURNING HOUSE
Bertolt Brecht

Gautama the Buddha taught
The doctrine of greed's wheel to which we are bound, and advised
That we should shed all craving and thus
Undesiring enter the nothingness that he called Nirvana.

Then one day his pupils asked him:
What is it like, this nothingness, Master? Every one of us would
Shed all craving, as you advise, but tell us
Whether this nothingness which then we shall enter
Is perhaps like being at one with all creation
When you lie in water, your body weightless, at noon
Unthinking almost, lazily lie in the water, or drowse
Hardly knowing now that you straighten the blanket
Going down fast -- whether this nothingness, then
Is a happy one of this kind, a pleasant nothingness, or
Whether this nothing of yours is mere nothing, cold, senseless and void.

Long the Buddha was silent, then said nonchalantly:
There is no answer to your question.
But in the evening, when they had gone
The Buddha still sat under the bread-fruit tree, and to the others
To those who had not asked, addressed this parable:

Lately I saw a house. It was burning. The flame
Licked at its roof. I went up close and observed
That there were people still inside. I opened the door and called
Out to them that the roof was ablaze, so exhorting them
To leave at once. But those people
Seemed in no hurry. One of them
When the heat was already scorching his eyebrows
Asked me what it was like outside, whether it wasn't raining

Whether the wind wasn't blowing perhaps, whether there was
Another house for them, and more of this kind. Without answering
I went out again. These people here, I thought
Need to burn to death before they stop asking questions.
Truly friends,
Unless a man feels the ground so hot underfoot that he'd
Exchange it for any other, sooner than stay, to him
I have nothing to say. Thus Gautama the Buddha.

But we too, no longer concerned with the art of submission
Rather with that of not submitting, and putting forward
Various proposals of an earthly nature, and beseeching men to shake off
Their human tormentors, we too believe that to those
Who in face of the approaching bomber squadrons of Capital go on asking too long
How we propose to do this, and how we envisage that
And what will become of their savings and Sunday trousers after a revolution
We have nothing much to say.

[Dogsmilk]

[conspiracy analyst]

For those who believe WW2 should not be discussed because of 'anti-semitic' clauses to silence debate...

[conspiracy analyst]

Political censorship serves only these ends
No one has the definitive answer to many issues.
I used to believe the Yanks went to the moon due to my upbringing and schooling and what my parents told me.
After spending time researching it I now believe the story is a lie.
Does that make me believe in aliens, or ghosts or ghouls?

But I do know one thing what the picture shows below.
We should counter their propaganda calling them 'War On Terror' Holocaust Deniers?

[kbo234]

Thank you conspiracy analyst. Good post.

[Dogsmilk]

Just thought I'd post the article about Nick from the Jewish chronicle as I don't think it's been posted on this forum yet.

[Rory Winter]

Posting that here doesn't help. In fact I think it has been posted elsewhere on this Forum. Most of us have had quite enough of the Zionist lobby. To put this sort of thing up just increases that sense of frustration.

This sort of article just cashes in on the European guilt-complex. The Zionists know exactly how to press the gentiles' buttons and they do. Zionism depends on that guilt-complex and plays on it mercilessly.

It's a dangerous game and it's already beginning to backfire. Most folk do not discriminate between Zionists and Jews: hence "It's about time we stopped feeling sorry for the Jews," is the kind of common thought-form it causes. And, as we know only too well, the people who take advantage of that kind of thinking are hardly those most decent folk would wish to associate with.

Jews who are concerned about the resurgence of (anti-Jewish) anti-semitism should listen to their friends. Be careful that you don't just mess around with but end up antagonising the ghosts of the past. There's still a lot of unresolved karma to be dealt with ...

[Rory Winter]

Oh man, I think we've got another Nazi here, in 'lubbe'. There is documentary evidence to substantiate that it was the Nazis who were responsible. What are you, a minor Holocaust Denier or something?

This is the problem with a Forum like this. You get all sorts of creepy-crawlies coming out from under their stones!

[johnnyvoid]

[Rory Winter]

How's Aunty Rachel, Johnny? Has she given you your orders for today? My God, you do have a low IQ, don't you? No one wonder Aunty employs you as her messenger boy.

Oh, are you 'lubbe' as well? Awfully distasteful to use poor Marius van der Lubbe's name seeing as he was victimised and guillotined by the Nazis for something he never did. But then that fits in perfectly with the Government Conspiracy about 911 and those dreadful Muslim terrists that people like you in the controlled opposition keep yammering on about, doesn't it?

[astro3]

I express my respect for all persons who have contributed to this thread, and hope that the pain involved in this debate may have been some use. My approach to what I’m calling the Greatest Lie Ever Told is basically chemical, that the walls of those old buildings, of the labour camps around the little village of Oswiecim/Auschwitz do hold a memory, one only accessible by chemical analysis. I don’t claim expertise on any other aspect of the matter, than this. What are designated as having been ‘gas chambers’ and to which UK school visits are now compulsory, do not have significant elevation of measurable cyanide in their walls above those of ‘controls i.e. barracks & washrooms. And we are here looking at about 15 samples taken from each of these two categories.

As a consequence of expressing this view, my reputation lies shattered and in ruins and awful calumny is expressed against me on a hundred different websites. To continue, the real gas chambers, those where the cyanide gas was actually used, day in day out, whose walls are now blue from being so saturated with the ferrocyanide, are not ‘on the course’ for visits to Auschwitz. There are some in the big ‘Birkenau’ complex at Auschwitz still standing. These walls measurably have a couple of thousand times higher levels of the cyanide, that came from use of Zyklon-B. Clothes went into these ‘disinfestation chambers’, to keep typhus at bay.

That is the basic politically-incorrect chemistry, of interest and importance to the entire human race and yet never published or commented on in any (English-language) chemistry journal. Yes, the chemist is in jail. I should be grateful that I’m not in jail too, not living in one of the 11 EU nations where that would happen, as a consequence of such a view. There is nowhere in Britain where anyone is allowed to discuss this issue. No public meeting can be held, no UK ‘Holocaust’ MA course permits doubt.

Twenty years ago, Fred Leuchter brought out his ‘Report’ which kick-started the Revisionist movement, and this comment upon the physical impossibility of the alleged process – by America’s only professional cyanide-execution expert – provoked an official notice of damnation by the House of commons with 100 MPs voting. But, what he wrote was true. Those old alleged gas chambers really were designed as washrooms and morgues, and could not have been operated as lethal cyanide gas chambers.

But, if you want, you can still have a million gassed by carbon monoxide from diesel exhaust, traditionally a part of ‘the Holocaust,’ and this is usually said to have happened in lorries etc. I’ve made no comment about this. Or, you can have cyanide gassing in some farmhouses out in the woods of which no traces now remain – and this has appeared in some books, after the implications of the chemical findings sank in. That all gets rather unverifiable but please note it’s an option. My position is: it is the cyanide-based mass executions, of Jews, in the traditionally-designated ‘gas chambers’ of the WW2 German labour-camps, that, as far as I can see, is ruled out by the chemical investigations to-date.

I don’t like being called a ‘Holocaust denier’ because the Nazi ‘final solution’ to the ‘Jewish question’ was the most terrible collective experience in their history, in which huge numbers died. Even more people died from the Nazi invasion of Russia, maybe 20 million. The Nazi regime was utterly abominable and something that history should never repeat. Of course. But, does that mean that certain issues are beyond discussion and get enshrined to where Doubt becomes crime? There is nothing more important than truth, historical truth about what really happened.

Chemical logic: http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=4111

[TonyGosling]

from the New Statesman comments section - by astro3, Nick K
posted here for the record

[TonyGosling]

PETER LEVENDA AND THE MAGICKAL ROOTS OF NAZISM
interview by Tracy R. Twyman
Peter Levenda’s quest for the truth began in 1979 while reading Aftermath: Martin Bormann and the Fourth Reich, by Ladislas Farago, about how Hitler’s former Riechsleiter had escaped to South America after the war pretending to be a priest, protected by the "underground railroad" of Nazi sympathizers that operated and still operate all over that continent, including many if not most of the police and military. Levenda came across a description of one of Bormann’s many hideouts, a Koreshisn cult compound called "Colonia Dignidad" (Colony of Righteousness), which was, as Farago described, "the weirdest encampment of the postwar world, housing a sect that combines Nazism and vodooism." Intrigued as he was by such an odd combination, Mr. Levenda decided to check the place out for himself, and actually flew down to Chile to conduct the investigation. He did manage to penetrate the compound, but only briefly, and this led to him being chased out of Chile by a series of unidentified agents, then later fired from his job at "a large, multinational corporation that did a lot of business with the Chilean military." It also led to the research that eventually culminated in Levenda’s terrifying, spellbinding book, Unholy Alliance: A History of Nazi Involvement with the Occult.

The History

It all started with the Thule Gesellschaft, a pagan, anti-Semitic, right-wing aristocratic society founded by a Freemason and Eastern mystic named Baron Rudolf von Sebottendorff. They met every Saturday in Munich’s Four Season’s Hotel to discuss things like runes (an old German alphabet), racial evolution, Nordic mythology and German nationalism. Registered under the name "Thule Gessellschaft" as a "literary-cultural society", in order to fool the communist Red Army now controlling Munich, this group had originally been known as the Germanenorden, or the German Order Walvater of the Holy Grail. According to Levenda, ‘The Germanenorden had an impressive series of initiatory rituals, replete with knights in shining armor, wise kings, mystical bards and forest nymphs’, including a Masonic-style program of secrecy, initiation and mutual cooperation." But they were not copying the ideological aspects of Freemasonry. As Levenda writes, "What the Germanenorden became was, essentially, an anti-Masonry: a Masonic-style society dedicated to the eradication of Freemasonry itself." Their symbol was a long dagger on top of a swastika, and their beliefs had been influenced largely by the writings of Guido von List and Lanz von Liebenfels, two men who will feature prominently in our story. Liebenfels had founded the neo-pagan, swastika-waving "Order of the New Templars" on Christmas Day, 1907, along similar ideological lines. In that same year, occult researcher Guido von List began The List Society, part of a then-developing "völkish" (folkish) movement extolling the virtues of Norse heritage, heritage which could be traced by reading the Edda, a compilation of Icelandic legends which Hitler would later take great interest in. The völkish movement itself was based in part on the ideas of Madame Helena Blavatsky, founder of the Theosophical Society famous for her books Isis Unveiled and The Secret Doctrine. She wrote that humanity was descendant from a series of imperfect races which had once ruled the earth, and which all had a common Atlantean origin dating back millions of years, culminating in the Aryan race, which had at one point possessed supernatural powers but had since lost them. She also romanticized about the occult significance of the swastika, of Lucifer, "The Light-Bearer", and of a cabal of spiritual "Hidden Masters" called the Great White Brotherhood, who guided human evolution from their abode in the Himalayas and who Blavatsky herself purported to channel during her many self-induced trances. And the philosophy of List and Liebenfels took this a bit further, to the extent that the Aryan race was the only "True" humanity, and that the Jews, along with a host of other undesirables, or "minderwertigen" ("beings of inferior value") were sapping the race of its strength and purity through the evil machination of Christianity, Freemasonry, capitalism and Communism. They believed that the Aryan race had come from a place called Thule, the north pole, where there was an entrance to a vast underground area populated by giants. "Among the völkish cults", writes Levenda, "it was believed that -- as soon as the Germans had purified the planet of the pollution of the inferior races -- these Hidden Masters, these Supermen from Thule, would make themselves known, and the link which had been lost between Man and God would be forged anew."
http://www.american-buddha.com/levenda.nazi.htm
http://www.american-buddha.com/levenda.nazi.htm

[TonyGosling]

7/7 Truth activist Nick Kollerstrom hands himself in for questoning

9/11 activist hands himself in over Cameron remarks
Wed Oct 1, 2014 12:43AM GMT

A 9/11 British activist hands himself in to UK’s counter terrorism police following British Prime Ministers David Cameron’s speech at the UN General Assembly last week, Press TV reports.

In response to Cameron’s remarks equating people, who question 9/11 and 7/7 attacks in the US and UK as well as the West’s policy towards the Middle East, with Takfiri preachers who radicalize extremists, Nick Kollerstrom handed himself in.

“As the evidence emerges about the backgrounds of those convicted of terrorist offences, it is clear that many of them were initially influenced by preachers who claim not to encourage violence, but whose world view can be used as a justification for it. And we know what this world view is, the peddling of lies: that 9/11 was a Jewish plot or the 7/7 London attacks were staged; the idea that Muslims are persecuted all over the world as a deliberate act of Western policy,” Cameron said while addressing the 69th session of the United Nations General Assembly on September 25.

Explaining his actions to the Press TV correspondent in London, Kollerstrom said, “David Cameron has redefined terrorism at the UN to include people, who believe that the London bombings involve government complicity, were to some degree arranged, which I certainly do believe, and I’ve published a book on the subject and also I believe the 9/11 was an inside job. I do think Islamic nations are being selectively targeted, it’s perfectly obvious, and if the police force are going by his directive what constitutes terrorism, it seems to me that they need to arrest me.”

The Press TV correspondent was present while Colestrom handed himself in.

“We want to report a possible terror threat, we've got a bit of evidence and wonder if we could come in and report it,” Kollerstrom said at Scotland Yard headquarters in London.

The British police refused to arrest Colestrom, but he said that Cameron’s definition of nonviolent extremism will lead to the arrest of many Muslims, who share his views, and described it as another example of racial profiling.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/10/01/380620/911-uk-activist-hands-h imself-in/
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/10/01/380627/uk-pm-dubs-activists-wh o-challenge-terrorist-official-stories-nonviolent-extremists/

[outsider]

Matt Campbell (whose brother died in the Twin Towers) visits New Scotland Yard and Parliament to hand himself in, and is filmed by 'We Are Change' London:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2Elai0QvNA

Peter Neathey (he produced the play '7 Seconds' about Building 7, which has played a number of times in various venues in London) tried to hand himself in on Friday, was filmed by Press TV, and they are doing a documentary on it.

[Whitehall_Bin_Men]

EXCLUSIVE: Jeremy Corbyn's brother Piers gives a speech alongside a notorious Holocaust denier and a 9/11 conspiracy theorist

By Jake Wallis Simons, Associate Global Editor
10:46, 13 Nov 2016, updated 14:12, 14 Nov 2016
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3906394/Jeremy-Corbyn-s-brothe r-Piers-gives-speech-alongside-notorious-Holocaust-denier-9-11-conspir acy-theorist.html#comments

Corbyn was welcomed to the stage by disgraced academic Nicholas Kollerstrom, who was disowned by UCL for denying the Holocaust
He appeared alongside Ian Fantom, a 9/11 conspiracy theorist who was wearing a T-shirt saying '9/11 and 7/7 were staged'
Kollerstrom's books on Holocaust denial were openly on sale at the event
Corbyn was pictured laughing and joking with the two men
In his speech, he claimed that man made climate change was a 'lie' and later suggested that the 9/11 attacks may have been staged
Piers Corbyn has appeared on stage alongside a notorious Holocaust denier and a leading 9/11 conspiracy theorist to give a speech claiming that man made climate change is a 'lie' promoted for profit by a global elite.

Corbyn stood beside conspiracy theorist Ian Fantom, who was wearing a T-shirt saying '9/11 and 7/7 were staged'. Books by the Holocaust denier, Nicholas Kollerstrom, were openly on sale at the event.

Corbyn did not object to the T-shirt or offensive books when they were brought to his attention, and was pictured joking with the two men before and after his speech.

Responding to questions from the audience, the 69-year-old weather scientist later said he believed that the official explanation for the 9/11 attacks was problematic.

He opened the talk with a reference to his brother, Jeremy, the Labour leader, and referred to him several times throughout the hour-long session that was attended by about 50 people.

‘I’m not going to talk about politics, as you well know, but beyond that I am my brother’s brother. He used to be my brother, now I’m his brother,’ he said.

Piers Corbyn, left, is welcomed to the stage by disgraced academic Nicholas Kollerstrom, right, a notorious Holocaust denier who was disowned by University College London in 2008
Piers Corbyn, left, is welcomed to the stage by disgraced academic Nicholas Kollerstrom, right, a notorious Holocaust denier who was disowned by University College London in 2008
Corbyn, left, takes questions from the audience alongside Ian Fantom, right, a prominent 9/11 conspiracy theorist, who was wearing a T-shirt saying 'non-violent extremist' on the front
Corbyn, left, takes questions from the audience alongside Ian Fantom, right, a prominent 9/11 conspiracy theorist, who was wearing a T-shirt saying 'non-violent extremist' on the front
The back of Fantom's shirt displayed the slogan, '9/11 and 7/7 were staged', leaving both Corbyn and the audience under no illusion about the nature of his controversial beliefs
The back of Fantom's shirt displayed the slogan, '9/11 and 7/7 were staged', leaving both Corbyn and the audience under no illusion about the nature of his controversial beliefs
Holocaust denier Kollerstrom, left, and Corbyn, right, chat to members of the audience
Holocaust denier Kollerstrom, left, and Corbyn, right, chat to members of the audience
Corbyn, left, is deep in discussion with Fantom, right, as they prepare for the event
Corbyn, left, is deep in discussion with Fantom, right, as they prepare for the event
Corbyn, left, and Fantom, right, share an intimate moment while setting up the stage
Corbyn, left, and Fantom, right, share an intimate moment while setting up the stage
Kollerstrom's book denying the Holocaust was openly on sale at the event where Corbyn was a keynote speaker
Kollerstrom's book denying the Holocaust was openly on sale at the event where Corbyn was a keynote speaker
A member of the audience browses Kollerstrom's books about Holocaust denial
A member of the audience browses Kollerstrom's books about Holocaust denial
The event, which took place on Tuesday night at St Saviour’s church in Pimlico, London, was organised by the Keep Talking Group, a small organisation devoted mainly to 9/11 conspiracy theories. Corbyn was the keynote speaker.

One of the organisers, Nicholas Kollerstrom – who has called the Holocaust a ‘primal myth’ that ‘never happened’ and claimed that the gas chambers were used only to ‘kill bugs’ – introduced Corbyn, calling him a ‘unique British scientist’.

Kollerstrom's book, Breaking The Spell: The Holocaust, Myth And Reality, was openly on sale in the hall.

The disgraced academic, who was stripped of his Honorary Fellowship by University College London (UCL) in 2008 after publishing an article entitled 'The Auschwitz “Gas Chamber” Illusion', was pictured signing books before the speech.

Also on stage was the Keep Talking Group’s founder, Ian Fantom, who had invited Corbyn to take part in the event. His group aims to prove that 9/11 and 7/7 were set-ups, and he has called David Cameron ‘every bit as bad as Adolf Hitler’.

Fantom appeared alongside Corbyn wearing a T-shirt saying ‘9/11 and 7/7 were staged’ on the back, and ‘non-violent extremist’ on the front – a reference to a phase used by Cameron to criticise conspiracy theorists.

In his speech, the well-known ‘9/11 Truther’ recommended a play called I.S.I.S., which promotes the idea that the World Trade Centre attacks were staged and features a character referred to as ‘Gay Jew Brad’.

He said: ‘Ten years ago, when my association turned on me – as the press has just turned on Trump and the British press is turning on Putin – I realised that you are judged not by the quality of your research but entirely on whether other people like the results.’

He then drew a parallel between his own work and that of Corbyn, saying that the scientist had ‘passed the Galileo test’ because he ‘stood up to authority’ in denying climate change.

Also for sale was a book by Kollerstrom, 69, entitled How Britain Initiated Both World Wars, and another exploring the idea that Paul McCartney died on ‘9/11 of 1966’ and was replaced by an impostor.

When the controversial T-shirt and books were brought to Corbyn's attention during questions from the audience, he said:

‘Sometimes it’s better not to [express my] views in public. But I think the stuff about 9/11 is pretty unbelievable. I know a lot of scientists who think so.

'In fact, I was invited over to America at one point, in fact to talk about climate, but there was a second agenda they had on to talk to me about 9/11, you know. There’s stuff [in the official explanation] that makes no sense to a rational mind.’

In a statement given to MailOnline after the event, Fantom said that Corbyn had been 'set up by the press in order to smear his brother', and that the 'distortion and manipulation' was coming from 'the Israel lobby'.

Corbyn talks to members of the audience after his well-received speech in Pimlico, London
Corbyn talks to members of the audience after his well-received speech in Pimlico, London


James Thring, a conspiracy theorist with links to former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard David Duke, who has campaigned for the release of Holocaust denier David Irving, was in the audience
James Thring, a conspiracy theorist with links to former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard David Duke, who has campaigned for the release of Holocaust denier David Irving, was in the audience
James Thring, a conspiracy theorist who has links with former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard David Duke and has campaigned for the release of Holocaust denier David Irving, was pictured at the event.

When he took the floor, Corbyn delivered a rambling lecture in which he argued that the notion of climate change had been fabricated by a global elite in order to enrich themselves and ‘control the world’.

‘This is the agenda of the globalisation story backed by the climate change authorities,’ he said. ‘You see, the climate change, it’s an ideology used to promote globalisation and the super-profits of Wall Street.’

In response to a round of applause, he smiled and made the ‘peace’ sign with his fingers, a gesture that he repeated a number of times during the event.

He added: ‘Any scare story will be used by someone to make money, whether it’s true or not. The CO2 one is false, and it’s been used to make a lot of money.

‘Kids have been brainwashed, that’s for sure.’

In a statement to MailOnline, Corbyn said: ‘I and anyone have the freedom to attend or not any public meeting I am invited to irrespective of who else may be present unknown to me without fear of “Stasi style” spying or reportage.’

He added that this was the first time he had been involved with the group and its controversial organisers.

However, he stood by his belief that 'there are certain (expertly reported) problems with what we are told [about 9/11] – as indeed there are many problems with what we hear from the White House'.

Corbyn, the older brother of Labour leader Jeremy, was a squatter’s rights campaigner in the Seventies and served as a Labour councillor in the late Eighties. He left the party in 2002, but supported his brother’s leadership campaign in 2015.

Jeremy Corbyn was engulfed in a similar scandal last year when MailOnline revealed that he had attended ‘two or three’ events hosted by Paul Eisen, a prominent Holocaust denier, and may have made a donation to his group.

PIERS CORBYN STATEMENT IN FULL

‘I speak to a very wide range of organisations across the political, business and international spectrum who invite me to talk about weather and climate; my attendance does not in any way imply, or is ever taken to imply, I support anything they or their members do or think.

‘I was invited by Ian, no-one else, convener of the ‘Keep Talking' organisation which entertains a wide range of speakers and my attendance was never suggested to imply agreement or not with any view he or anyone involved or present may have.

‘In my presentation and in public questions through the chair of the meeting I explained why we at WeatherAction.com strongly find that the idea of man made climate change fails. I was asked an irrelevant question about 9/11 and nevertheless said there are certain (expertly reported) problems with what we are told – as indeed there are many problems with what we hear from the White House! Some in the audience appeared to want my comments for reasons known only to themselves, on a number of other matters which were not relevant and so were ignored by the chair and not taken.

‘On my brother I support his leadership of the Labour Party 100 per cent and while we agree on most things we do not expect to agree with each other on everything, even football! I object to attempts to damage Jeremy by indirect association with people with whom I may accidentally have been present at the same meeting in Pimlico or anywhere. I and anyone have the freedom to attend or not any public meeting I am invited to irrespective of who else may be present unknown to me without fear of "Stasi style" spying or reportage.

‘What anything the attendee you describe as Nick or anyone else there thinks on any matter is nothing to do with me any more than the religious views of others present on the bus home.’

[TonyGosling]

Kollerstrom's toxic crew attach themselves to another victim
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/uk-911-truth/Iu179UTVe-g

[Whitehall_Bin_Men]

Lee Harpin April 16, 2019 12:00
Emails reveal row within Labour Against The Witchhunt over member's support for Holocaust denier
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/emails-reveal-row-within-labour-aga inst-the-witchhunt-over-member-s-support-for-holocaust-denier-1.483088

Pete Gregson insisted denier Nick Kollerstrom was 'Holocaust sceptic', and was condemned by fellow LAW member Tony Greenstein

Nick Kollerstrom, whom Pete Gregson called a 'Holocaust sceptic'
Nick Kollerstrom, whom Pete Gregson called a 'Holocaust sceptic'
Labour Against The Witchhunt (LAW) - which was launched to defend Labour activists accused of antisemitism - has been rocked by a bitter rift over one of its member’s open support for a Holocaust denier.

Tony Greenstein, LAW’s vice-chair, who was himself expelled from Labour over his use of the word "Zio" and for mocking the phrase Final Solution, has clashed with another of the group’s supporters .

Peter Gregson – who has been backed by LAW since being expelled by the GMB union over alleged antisemitism - had urged Mr Greenstein and his allies to support a petition he started, which included links to an article by Ian Fantom of the conspiracy theory Keep Talking group.

In that article, Mr Fathom writes approvingly of Dr Nick Kollerstrom – author of The Auschwitz ‘Gas Chamber’ Illusion.

But in emails sent to LAW’s leading members – including expelled Labour activist Jackie Walker, her partner Graham Bash and Tina Werkman – Mr Greenstein initially attempts to persuade Mr Gregson to “cut links” with the Mr Fanthom and Mr Kollerstrom, saying the association “would be incredibly damaging” for LAW.

He writes: “I must ask you to remove all references to Ian Fantom’s article from your petition update which directs people to Kollerstrom’s holocaust denial article on the website of the well-known Holocaust denial site CODOH.”

In his March 22 email, Mr Greenstein also refers to wording in Mr Gregson’s petition saying: "It is bad enough that you yourself used the word ‘exaggerate’ in terms of the Holocaust.”

He then adds: "We could put this down to simply using the wrong word.”

But Mr Greenstein’s words spark a furious response from Mr Gregson, despite the fact that the LAW vice-chair spoke in Mr Gregson's defence a hearing into his conduct held by GMB in January.

He writes on March 23 that Mr Greenstein is “exhibiting the kind of shrill neurosis for which the left is rightly famed. And is why of course so many in the left are doomed to obscurity, for they slam the door hard shut at every opportunity."

Mr Fantom has previously shared conspiracy theories blaming Israel for 9/11. But Mr Gregson writes of him: “I have spent time with Ian Fantom. I believe he is OK. I do not have a problem with his politics.”

In his own furious response, Mr Greenstein writes back at 2.54 am, setting out detailed evidence of Mr Fantom's support for Mr Kollerstrom, noting that the article Mr Gregson links to says Mr Kollertrom "had been targeted in a witch-hunt".

"You can call me whatever you want but I am not going to have holocaust denial being debated or legitimised under the guise of ‘free speech’," Mr Greenstein writes.

"It’s like debating the rights and wrongs of murdering 50 Muslims in New Zealand last week, or perhaps that too didn’t happen?

“I am removing you from the LAW Facebook and will leave it to the LAW Steering Committee as to whether you are removed from LAW membership too.”

In a further message on April 3 - still copying in much of the LAW leadership - Mr Gregson writes: "Tony is stating he will seek to damage my reputation by making LAW shun me if I do not do as he asks. If that is not a threat, then I’m a chinaman.”

Tony Greenstein
Tony Greenstein
But Mr Greenstein replies later the same day: "I should not have needed to ask Peter not to associate with holocaust deniers and conspiracy cranks. That was self-evident or should have been.

“Nor did I threaten him and I merely made it clear that we could not work with him whilst he kept company with such ‘friends’.

“Yes there is freedom of speech to deny the holocaust but my freedom of speech includes keeping a wide berth from Peter.”

Two days later, Jackie Walker, now clearly fed up with the conflict, writes: "Tony, Peter – if you want to continue this please use your own emails.”

But Mr Greenstein, responding to Ms Walker and everyone else in the email chain, writes: "Sorry I don’t know what type of a group this is.

"I haven’t spammed any one. I have simply replied to Peter Gregson’s unsolicited emails. I won’t do so anymore and as far as I am concerned the group is at an end. So no need for anyone to withdraw as there is nothing to withdraw from.”

Mr Gregson then explains his decision to place the entire email chain on his web site, writing: "Nick Kollerstrom never denies the Nazis murdered many, many Jews.

“He just thinks it was by shootings and hangings, not gassing. I don’t think one can call him a Holocaust denier; he does not deny that the Nazis were out to destroy the Jewish race. In this respect he might be described as a Holocaust sceptic. He himself says he is not a denier.

“He has a 1.5 minute video where he says he accepts the mass murder of Jews in WW2. I believe he is a historical revisionist. I believe his research is toxic and not something I agree with.

“But I still believe in his right to say these things. Same as I believe that Hodge has a right to call Jezza an anti-Semite.

“I also think she should have been disciplined by Labour for so doing, for bringing the Party into disrepute. I am, quite simply, a believer in free speech.

“Because Tony has banned me from the Labour Against the Witch-hunt (unofficial) Facebook page and is now publicly accusing me of consorting with Holocaust deniers, I feel it is necessary to make all correspondence on this matter public.”