Are UFOs really from outer space?

[marky 54]

hi all, i have always believed 9/11 and everything that is happening now is just a small part of the truth which people are questioning.

i was watching a few vids on google and saw one about u.f.o's, so i clicked it expecting a few laughs at the silly fakes, i then realsied it was a talk, from the things he mentions in it i think from when goegre bush senior was in office.

its partly about the truth about u.f.o's and alien life but also about the political events that were shaped as a result. i ended up coming away from it shocked. shocked because it better explained what is happening and what could of led to 9/11 and the war on terror for me.

regardless of if you believe in this stuff or not i recomend you watch it, it has some very good information in it. it's not just about ufo's or aliens it goes into everything pre 9/11. you carnt even begin to understand untill you see it.

the link dosnt work that i linked in a previous thread, but if you goto google video and type in: ufo-the secret goverment you should find it.

please post what you think here as im really intrested in others opinons and would'nt of started a new thread or even mentioned it unless i thought it important.

[Hazzard]

Your probably talking about the Disclosure project which is full of witnesses but no proof.

UFO's were developed first by the Nazi's, they had to have two compasses and they couldnt even stear the damn things. America picked up the research after Operation Paperclip. Its not really that crazy.

People want to believe in Aliens, and the American government isnt going to deny it becuase 1) It keeps people out of their hair in regards to their secret projects and 2) They are probably going to have a lovely Alien invasion show for us all to worship one day anyhow.

[marky 54]

[marky 54]

please dont comment unless you saw the film theres no point guessing at it contents, if your a true truther then you'd watch it at least before commenting, rather than avoiding it cos the ufo is a bit wacky, but hey lots think 9/11 cover up is wacky to dont they? its just what they want you to think.

it contains information which is relevent.

[marky 54]

[David WJ Sherlock]

A pilot and his passengers have reported seeing a UFO approximatley 1 mile across while on a flight to the Channel Islands.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQLNblZNDEA

[andyb]

and this has what to do with 9/11 and false flag terror??

[FindOutTheTruth]

Go onto www.abovetopsecret.com mate, best place for all that stuff!

[andyb]

[ian neal]

This from the Independent

Is the truth really out there? At last, the MoD opens its files

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article2511433.ece

And David, you need to take a chill pill mate. If there's anyone judging others or jumping to conclusions it's not Andy

[Long Tooth]

Oh No, i was looking for the official explanation as some sort of swamp gas rising to form a large atmospheric ice crystal which seemed as though it was moving due to the various reflections of the sun, and then the story changing to a weather balloon the next day.

times must be changing as in years past any pilot filing a report would have been ridiculed and suspended from duties faster than blair could say terrorist.

[David WJ Sherlock]

[zoomer]

Even though some people here seem to believe that talking about the UFO ET issue should be swept away to the other forums 'Above Top Secret, cant we dispense with such strict compart-mentalism and realize that both 9/11 and the UFO/advanced technology cover-up are completely interlinked?

[Long Tooth]

[Louise]

I was elsewhere on the internet during the past couple of days but i must say it's always nice to come back to the 9/11 truth forum.

I was talking about UFO's and i got a bit ridiculed about it (you know the general stuff they don't exist, you're a loony all that nonsense).

I was just wondering if anybody on this forum has had a GENUINE UFO experience big or small.

I will be fasinated to read some of your replys if you have.

My uncle david has had a genuine UFO experience.

The craft seemed to be observing him as it came down very low and hovered over him as if to study him then in the blink of an eye it shot off and dissapeared.

People laughed at him and said that he saw a helecopter.

Yeah right!.

The craft made no sound, since when has anybody heard of a silent helecopter?.

Also it was very low and right above him surely he would have felt the downdraught from the rotor blades, but he felt nothing.

And i'd like to see a helecopter move that fast, it was gone in a second.

So if any of you have had any encounters please feel free to respond.

But remember i do take this subject very seriously and i would be grateful if only people who have had genuine experiences respond.

Thank you.

[lockerbie]

the alien theory never made any sense to me.

first of all the nearest star is over 4 light years away. even if someone was to master travel at 99.9999% the speed of light it would take over 4 years for them to get here. and what do they do after 4 years of travel? buzz around a bit in their ufo and then head back for tea?

that doesn't really make sense now does it?

if you were to travel at least for 4 years to a distant planet would you not stop off and announce your presence to someone important other than a few country hicks that you shove implants into?

[Louise]

What i think is that they must have some sort of highly advanced propultion system built into their craft, whitch may permit travel across space at incredible speed allowing them to get here in a very short space of time.

Don't forget we are talking about technology that is far in advance of anything that the earth has........or offically has, unoffically i'm not so sure.

[lockerbie]

faster than light travel breaks some very fundamental laws of physics, no matter how advanced the technology those laws still remain.

[Louise]

Maybe thoose laws do not apply in a space enviroment, after all they woudn't know anything about our laws of physics.

Or maybe our own scientists have gone wrong somewhere along the line and missed or overlooked something that would permit faster then light speed travel.

Something that the ET's have discoverd and have known for ages.

Perhaps we need to completely relook at our sciences in relation to these craft.

[lockerbie]

"Maybe thoose laws do not apply in a space enviroment, after all they woudn't know anything about our laws of physics. "

of course they apply in a space environment. and their not "our" laws of physics, they're universal.

"Or maybe our own scientists have gone wrong somewhere along the line and missed or overlooked something that would permit faster then light speed travel."

anything traveling faster than the speed of light would totally break einstein's theories which have been proven.

"Perhaps we need to completely relook at our sciences in relation to these craft."

it should be the other way around.

[Louise]

Well i can't help thinking that if these craft demonstrate these abilitys that to us are impossible to acheive.

Then our science is somehow incorrect or flawed in someway.

And we need to rethink but i'm not sure in what area.

[lockerbie]

or the idea of UFO's or at least your view of their nature, origin and/or mechanics of the craft is flawed.

probably more likely than relativity being wrong.

[Louise]

Well i do asume some things about UFO's.

I do assume that they come from another planet in the universe and are constructed by the ET's.

And you must not dismiss the possibility that something is wrong in the science world.

To do so would be to limit the scope of possibilitys and possibly prevent further discoverys in deciphering the technology of these craft.

[lockerbie]

that only works if you think you have a better chance of being right than some very well proven science.

i'm going to hedge my bets on the science thank you very much.

[Louise]

Maybe.

But what i'm trying to say is that it is best to keep all you options and possibilitys open.

Rule nothing out.

Don't block off any avenues of exploration or you could in doing so block off the answer.

[lockerbie]

relativity being disproved is an impossibility, it has been proven beyond doubt. scientists use it's results everyday.

[karlos]

For the first time i agree with Lockerbie.
There is no such thing as UFO's or aliens.

Part of the plot of the New World Order boys is they want us to believe in aliens. They have a plan to stage a false flag alien invasion incident and use this as a springboard to declare a world government and marshall law throughout the world.

Basically the lies you are being told today about muslims will pail into insignificance compared to the lies about aliens they plan to tell you soon.

They lied to you about going to the moon. They lied about so many things and aliens is part of that. why so many programmes on tv about witchcraft and aliens?
Most haunted live?
Star trek?
They want you to believe in falsehoods so they can keep fxxking us over and over again. If they can sell you the emperours new clothes, then why wouldn't they come back and sell you a pair of the emperours boxer sharts and a set of matching socks too?
Do you get me?

[utopiated]

[lockerbie]

"They bend the fabric of space/time and arrive instantaneously. "

that is the equivalent of a gravitational effect. and we would be very quick to notice.

[utopiated]