Live Earth spin - Jack Osbourne & Jonathon Ross

David WJ Sherlock

Jonathon Ross was clearly embarrassed during an interview with Jack Osborne at the Global Warming awareness concert "Live Earth". The presenter asked Osborne (son of rock singer Ozzie) Who does the recycling in your home? Osborne replied. "None of us. As it don't make no difference if we recycle or not". Ross did not know how to react at the reply. He tried to steer Osborne in the right direction, but he was having none of it. I was equally as sickened by Duran, Duran musician Andy Taylor, saying "everyone should go and see Al Gore's film". Claiming Gore to be the leading ambassador on the facts of Global Warming. Music has a place in politics, but it should tell the story, not try to change the world. Most of these rock stars are just hypocrites. Considering the way they carry on. Their modes of transport etc....

I am not a fan of Jack Osborne. But well done for that Jack.

Newspeak International · Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:47 pm Post subject:

You mean you're not watching Harry Potter Shocked

uselesseater · Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:07 pm Post subject:

Everyone should go and see Al Gores a convenient lie? They have been doing their best to get everyone to see this witch doctor propaganda by putting on free showings in town halls where I live. I think this has been goingo on globaly.

Weekends womans hour were today discussing whether or not we have, in the context of Co2 emmissions, the right to choose how many children we have or whether we should sacrifice ourselves to the mother goddess so the elite can create their utopian society where the few are supported by a few million slaves.

telecasterisation · Banned Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 1873 Location: Upstairs

David WJ Sherlock

James C · Major Poster Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 1046

One has to wonder whether Al Gore has been hired to lead the propoganda war regarding AGW. He's hardly a model citizen himself.

David WJ Sherlock · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:43 pm Post subject:

telecasterisation · Banned Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 1873 Location: Upstairs

David WJ Sherlock wrote:

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karlos

lockerbie · Moderate Poster Joined: 06 Jul 2007 Posts: 147

"Live aid in the 1980s was an original event, however, africa is as poor today as it was then if not worse."

live aid was never set up to solve africa's problems it only had one goal and that was to deal with the ethiopian famine.

karlos · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:21 am Post subject:

telecasterisation · Banned Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 1873 Location: Upstairs

I have to disagree with the sentiments put forward regarding on-going third world starvation issues. The events that were organised such as Band Aid/Live Aid were not in themselves designed to be curatives - they were starting points for ongoing assistance. Unfortunately WE forget very quickly and it is down to us the situation still exists - looking around to apportion blame for misappropriated funds and the fact people still starve is really rather quaint.

However, the main thrust here is not starvation per se but global warming.

Mr Sherlock is under the impression that Jack O is in some position of authority when it comes to definitive words on matters pertaining to the value of recycling. He states that 'GW was shot down in flames' - simply because Jack doesn't believe that recyling achieves anything and stated it on national television?

This is bizarre and at the time, I viewed it that Mr Ross was more likely experiencing embarrassment FOR Jack than vice versa. Jack is famous only because his father screams into a microphone and this is the basis of his well-researched and obviously pertinent comment? Truth be told, he is probably just too lazy to walk the extra few feet to the green bin with the cardboard. Perspective is a wonderful concept.

As for the issue of 'ageing' rock stars being the major offenders to the problem of global warming - from what I see around me, we are all equally to blame. My neighbour has three holidays abroad every year, they own two large 4x4's and a sports car. The fact that this thread exists, the fact that we are discussing it now, means that at least we are debating the issue of climate change and in that respect the event has done exactly what it set out to do.

I actually don't care if climate change is down to the human race or not - anything that reduces our encroachment into the planet's resources has to be a good thing. I now own a car that does in excess of 80mpg and I only have to purchase fuel three times less than I did before. The road tax is 35 quid annually - anyone who owns a car in excess of a litre when it is completely unwarranted, is a selfish twerp.

The ego is man's biggest adversary and most find the pill difficult to swallow and don't like having to change their lifestyles because of social pressure and it is the latter that I believe is the main issue here. To hold Jack Osbourne up as a example of someone capable of challenging any global issue is far more an example of barrel scraping in the extreme.

As I said in a previous post in this thread - people would not have tuned in to watch the event at the weekend if the performers were sub-standard/not current A list acts. I am more inclined to accept that their lifestyles can be held up as examples of how not to live (assuming you can) and they were therefore perfect on every level. Perhaps ten hours of The Goodies would have been more acceptable just because they ride a three saddled bicycle?

The acts in question are only meeting a demand set by us the consumer - so all you are doing is blame-shifting.

David WJ Sherlock · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:56 am Post subject:

telecasterisation · Banned Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 1873 Location: Upstairs

David WJ Sherlock

You clearly congratulated Jack on his shooting down of global warming -

David WJ Sherlock · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:33 pm Post subject:

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David WJ Sherlock · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject:

lockerbie · Moderate Poster Joined: 06 Jul 2007 Posts: 147

" To coin the Chav/American saying. whatever!"

oh dear sherlock that is disappointing. to coin a phrase is to create it, not to use it. and i sincerely doubt you coined (created) "whatever!"

"So by this logic, Band Aid/Live Aid was rendered questionable because those taking part ate three meals a day? "

not but, that's not a great comparison. it would be rendered questionable if they were contributing to the ethiopian famine.

utopiated · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:06 pm Post subject:

DJ Sherlock watches too much TV!! Loads of top notch debate shows like Trisha and Jerome Kalye I reckon.

David WJ Sherlock · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:23 pm Post subject:

utopiated · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:38 pm Post subject:

Ahhh.. so I get another round of off-board contacts from you.

God help us if we have to select people to go tet-a-tet with the REAL enemies of our species future and you're one of them. You invite criticism by your approach with people on this forum and then when it's returned you alone decide that these people are "not onside" or "not out there doing it like you" blah blah... zzzz.

I look forward to checking my inbox again. Hopefully this time my highly efficient gmail filter rule:

"If incoming mail =abusive AND contains terms "clueless" and/or "sherlock" and/or "detective" then goTo trash"

..will do its job. Smile

David WJ Sherlock · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:49 pm Post subject:

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If global warming is such a threat, why did Al Gore and a who's who list of left-wing celebrities repeatedly fly around the globe this weekend to put on the Live Earth climate change propaganda fest?

http://www.jbs.org/node/4681

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