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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:54 am    Post subject: Outrageous torture of 7/7 suspect Reply with quote

Again shows how twisted British authorities are letting an innocent man be tortured for 11 days while they know who really bombed the Underground.

BBC RADIO 5, 1/3/6@07.33

PAKISTAN OFFICIALS TORTURE BRIT WITH DRUG INJECTIONS UP THE NOSE -

Sadiqi was falsely accused of being a terrorist with links to the accused London bombers. He says British officials grilled him too. Sabada Malik reported. In west London Mr Sadiqi recalls his story of being kidnapped while in Pakistan. He was beaten, drugged but never charged. INTERVIEW: MR SADIQI, TORTURE VICTIM - I was surrounded and arrested, they threatened to hang me on meat hooks, skin me and pull out my finger nails but I insisted on a lawyer which they refused. I was forcibly injected with chemicals up my nose and force fed despite being able to feed myself. I was chained to a bed for 11 days and not allowed to use a bathroom. I was subject to sexual abuse, there was so many disgusting acts I don't want to go into. They said they had irrefutable evidence and threatened to send me to the Americans. They wanted me to make false confessions. I explained to the British I'd been tortured, they wanted to know my views on Palestine and Iraq. British intelligence wanted me to answer their questions, at least they have consular services. Other people in prison had burn marks on their bodies, they told me stories of torture and had nobody to help them. I knew the Derby man who carried out the suicide attack in Israel, we went to school together but I didn't see him for the next six years after I left school. I didn't not know Tanweer from Leeds but they tried to pin the blame on me so Pakistan could boost their own image. There was no evidence to link me to the 7/7 attacks.



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What seems to be happening here, what with the Newsnight report last week, and the rendition flights a while ago, is yet another stage in process of getting people to accept torture as routine.

The recent stories seem to be appearing in parallel in the UK and the USA (prisoner abuse, abu gharib etc).

Although I guess the vast majority of people are totally against any form of it, if other countries are said to be doing it (rather than us), then people are less likely to react - even when British citizens are involved.

It's almost like PTB are gauging how deeply anaesthatised people are - they can do this by measuring the reaction to stories like this.

I think we can expect more of the same.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard this same story on the Today programme this morning. Of course any form of torture is unacceptable. If British Secret Services and/or consular officials knew what was going on and did nothing (as alleged in the story) then this is appalling. Of course from one story the truth or otherwise of the alegations Mr Sadiqi makes cannot be determined but I just wonder why did the BBC choose to feature these allegations at prime time (7:40) on Today? Does it mean that the BBC is not really under the government thumb that I supppose and will report anti governement allegations (which is what this amounts to)? Or what? Why is this story given prominence but others (which might seem equally valid e.g. regarding 9/11) are never heard? Presumably there is some agenda somewhere to undermine this current government in order to usher in a new clean and sparkling one. So the stories can be bad - but not that bad? Is that it?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RE: BBC normalising torture.

Just on Shaun Ley, WorldatOne, bbc radio 4. He done an article about the Afghan jail break and interviewed this hideous torturer as his source. As usual Ley treated the criminal with respect. Imagine the BBC ringing up Kenneth Noye* in prison to get his view on the Kent heist?!

BUSH MAKES SECRET VISIT TO AFGHANISTAN - prisoners at the main Afghan jail have instigated a riot. INTERVIEW: EDWARD CARBALLO, AMERICAN PRISONER/JOURNALIST - the yelling started on Saturday among the political wings of the prison. The uprising begun on Saturday night, we heard gunshots outside and saw several cells on fire. People came to my room and said they wanted to talk to the American ambassador, they also threatened to cut my head off.

older story on Carballo's conviction -

US vigilantes convicted in Kabul


Three Americans have been jailed for up to 10 years for torturing Afghans and running a private jail in Kabul.
Jonathan Idema and Brent Bennett were sentenced to 10 years in jail and Edward Caraballo eight years.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3657744.stm

BTW - Shaun Ley is one of the sickest shills at the BBC.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ally wrote:


US vigilantes convicted in Kabul




'Vigilantes' and not psychopaths eh ?!?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:13 pm    Post subject: torture does not reveal truth Reply with quote

We also need to keep making the point that torture does not lead to the truth. Instead it forces the victim to say what (s)he thinks the torturer wants to hear.

Torture is a useful technique to use when what you want is not the truth, but evidence to justify a lie.

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