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I think we should approach Pinter. It has been mentioned before but I don't think anyone has tried. Shame on us all! Does anyone have any contact details for him?
Depressing Guardian article though! Is it true they have all sold out, or is it rather that the 9/11 deception and the permanent war it has engendered have been so successful in suckering people?
Is it possible that people who have been so successfully suckered can suddenly experience a re-awakening - a Road to Damascus experience, perhaps?
Looking at things from the grass roots of the 9/11 Truth Campaign in Britain, I am certain we are winning. If we just carry on as we have been doing for the past three and a half years since twelve of us met up in a London pub and decided to start this campaign up, we are making steady progress and the pace of growth is accellerating. The more supporters we find, the faster we grow. New supporters in turn become multipliers.
Our challenge is to keep up the pace of public events and media events which draw attention to our message. Some people expect a sudden breakthrough, get disappointed when it doesn't happen and give up the struggle, but I only know a few who have been through that process. Steady progress will get us there, insh'Allah.
How about inviting Harold Pinter to speak at a future event? |
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I have great respect for the man but am no longer familiar with his plays. This is the best I can find at the moment for contact.
Harold Pinter
The only comments/feedback link on the site
info@liquidpolygon.com <info@liquidpolygon.com>
http://www.haroldpinter.org
http://www.haroldpinter.org/politics/index.shtml
His Nobel lecture video:
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/2005/pinter-le cture.html
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With regards the Guardian article I feel that Simon Armitage is perhaps another, though slightly quieter critic that deserves attention. Some of his poems appear to hint at things, at least to me anyway.
Out Of The Blue (Silver River/Channel 5) - Armitage's specially commissioned film-poem to commemorate the fifth aniversary of 9.11. Directed by Ned Williams.
Rufus Sewell Reads "9/11: Out of the Blue" Poem by Simon Armitage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Armitage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yacjArDnRbY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlQHVzdGwTk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufZey15WTAk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weebw7QOU80
Seeing as he's at Manchester University as a senior lecturer I may pay the man a visit sometime., for his opinion on the issue.
Heres another of his from November 2005, a few lines of which are possible indications he is aware of some foul play, or odd aspects of the OCT
Armitage's poem "The Convergence Of The Twain", about the tragic events of September
11th, appears on the BBC Radio 4 website.
The Convergence of the Twain
I
Here is an architecture of air.
Where dust has cleared,
nothing stands but free sky, unlimited and sheer.
II
Smoke's dark bruise
has paled, soothed
by wind, dabbed at and eased by rain, exposing the wound.
III
Over the spoil of junk,
rescuers prod and pick,
shout into tangled holes. What answers back is aftershock.
IV
All land lines are down.
Reports of mobile phones
are false. One half-excoriated Apple Mac still quotes the Dow Jones.
V
Shop windows are papered
with faces of the disappeared.
As if they might walk from the ruins - chosen, spared.
VI
With hindsight now we track
the vapour-trail of each flight-path
arcing through blue morning, like a curved thought.
VII
And in retrospect plot
the weird prospect
of a passenger plane beading an office-block.
VIII
But long before that dawn,
with those towers drawing
in worth and name to their full height, an opposite was forming,
IX
a force
still years and miles off,
yet moving headlong forwards, locked on a collision course.
X
Then time and space
contracted, so whatever distance
held those worlds apart thinned to an instant.
XI
During which, cameras framed
moments of grace
before the furious contact wherein earth and heaven fused.
November 19, 2005 in Poems | Permalink
Yet another from his website http://www.simonarmitage.com/
Still listed as
"Poem of the Day"
"Hand Washing Technique – Government Guidelines"
in memory Dr David Kelly
1. Palm to palm.
2. Right palm over left dorsum and left palm over right dorsum.
3. Palm to palm fingers interlaced.
4. Backs of fingers to opposing palms with fingers interlocked.
5. Rotational rubbing of right thumb clasped in left palm and vice versa.
6. Rotational rubbing, backwards and forwards with clasped fingers of right hand left
palm and vice versa.
from the forthcoming collection Tyrannosaurus Rex Versus the Corduroy Kid, published
by Faber & Faber 6th September 2006.
April 28, 2006 in Poem of the Day
Does anyone else think he might be a quiet truther? _________________ The Peoples United Collective TPUC.ORG
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xmasdale wrote: | I think we should approach Pinter. It has been mentioned before but I don't think anyone has tried. Shame on us all! Does anyone have any contact details for him?
Depressing Guardian article though! Is it true they have all sold out, or is it rather that the 9/11 deception and the permanent war it has engendered have been so successful in suckering people?
Is it possible that people who have been so successfully suckered can suddenly experience a re-awakening - a Road to Damascus experience, perhaps?
Looking at things from the grass roots of the 9/11 Truth Campaign in Britain, I am certain we are winning. If we just carry on as we have been doing for the past three and a half years since twelve of us met up in a London pub and decided to start this campaign up, we are making steady progress and the pace of growth is accellerating. The more supporters we find, the faster we grow. New supporters in turn become multipliers.
Our challenge is to keep up the pace of public events and media events which draw attention to our message. Some people expect a sudden breakthrough, get disappointed when it doesn't happen and give up the struggle, but I only know a few who have been through that process. Steady progress will get us there, insh'Allah.
How about inviting Harold Pinter to speak at our 8th September event? |
he was against the kosovo war i think
the world seems to think the serbs were opressing some muslim abanians and so nato with usa and uk bombed mainly the serbs
do i have a simplistic veiw of him?some would then say he didnt care about the muslims?
ever see news from
www.tenc.net ? _________________ Puzzling Evidence
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Pinter#Political_activism
http://www.emperors-clothes.com/film/judgment.htm
The Movie Judgment! Exposes the Phony 'Death Camp' Pictures that Fooled the World
he likes fidel
he sounds sort of nuts
i didnt know
Pinter was an early member of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament in the United Kingdom and supported the British Anti-Apartheid Movement (1959-94), participating in British artists' refusal to permit professional productions of their work in South Africa in 1963 and in subsequent related campaigns).[23] He has been active in International PEN, serving as a vice-president, along with American playwright Arthur Miller. In 1985, Pinter and Miller traveled to Turkey, on a mission co-sponsored by International PEN and a Helsinki Watch committee to investigate and protest the torture of imprisoned writers. There he met victims of political oppression and their families. At an American embassy dinner in Ankara, held in Miller's honor, at which Pinter was also an invited guest, speaking on behalf of those imprisoned Turkish writers, Pinter confronted the ambassador with (in Pinter's words) "[t]he reality . . . of electric current on your genitals": Pinter's outspokenness apparently angered their host and led to indications of his desired departure. Guest of honor Miller left the embassy with him. Recounting this episode for a tribute to Miller on his 80th birthday, Pinter concludes: "Being thrown out of the US embassy in Ankara with Arthur Miller — a voluntary exile — was one of the proudest moments in my life."[24] Pinter's experiences in Turkey and his knowledge of the Turkish suppression of the Kurdish language "inspired" his 1988 play Mountain Language.[25]
He is an active delegate of the Cuba Solidarity Campaign in the United Kingdom, an organization that defends Cuba, supports the government of Fidel Castro, and campaigns against the U.S. embargo on the country.[26] In 2001 Pinter joined the International Committee to Defend Slobodan Milošević (ICDSM), which appealed for a fair trial for and the freedom of Slobodan Milošević; he signed a related "Artists' Appeal for Milošević" in 2004. (The organization continues its presence on the internet even after Milošević's death in 2006.)
He strongly opposed the 1991 Gulf War, the 1999 NATO bombing campaign in Yugoslavia during the Kosovo War, the 2001 United States war in Afghanistan, and the 2003 Invasion of Iraq. He has been very active in the current anti-war movement in the United Kingdom, speaking at rallies held by the Stop the War Coalition. He has called the President of the United States, George W. Bush, a "mass murderer" and the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Tony Blair, both "mass-murdering" and a "deluded idiot"; he alleges that they, along with past U.S. officials, are "war criminals". He has compared the Bush administration ("a bunch of criminal lunatics") with Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany, saying that, under Bush, the United States ("a monster out of control") strives to attain "world domination" through "Full spectrum dominance", while, like a "bleating little lamb tagging behind it on a lead, the pathetic and supine Great Britain," led by Blair, participates in "an act of premeditated mass murder" instigated on behalf of "the American people", who, Pinter acknowledges, increasingly protest "their government's actions."[27]
He continues to sign petitions on behalf of artistic and political causes that he supports, and became a signatory of the mission statement of Jews For Justice For Palestinians in 2005 and of its full-page advertisement, "What Is Israel Doing? A Call by Jews in Britain" featured in the London Times on 6 July 2006.[28] He also co-signed an open letter about recent events in the Middle East dated 19 July 2006, distributed to major news publications on 21 July 2006, and posted on the website of Noam Chomsky on 27 July 2006.[29] On February 5, 2007, the London Independent reports, along with historian Eric Hobsbawm, human rights lawyer Geoffrey Bindman, fashion designer Nicole Farhi, film director Mike Leigh, and actors Stephen Fry and Zoë Wanamaker, among others, Harold Pinter launched the organization Independent Jewish Voices in the United Kingdom "to represent British Jews...in response to a perceived pro-Israeli bias in existing Jewish bodies in the UK",, and, according to Hobsbawn, "as a counter-balance to the uncritical support for Israeli policies by established bodies such as the Board of Deputies of British Jews."[30]
See main article: Independent Jewish Voices#Declaration
Pinter also contributes letters to the editor, essays, speeches, and poetry strongly expressing his artistic and political viewpoints, which are frequently published initially in British periodicals, both via print and online publishing and, increasingly, distributed and re-distributed extensively over the Internet and throughout the blogosphere. These have been distributed more widely since his winning the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2005; subsequent related news accounts often cite his status as a Nobel Laureate.
For over the past two decades, in his speeches, interviews, and literary readings, Pinter has focused increasingly on political issues. Since the mid-eighties, he has described his earlier plays retrospectively from the perspective _________________ Puzzling Evidence
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