911blogger.com Censoring Member Comments

Emmanuel Goldstein · New Poster Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 8

Following the sudden departure http://www.911blogger.com/node/9732 of 911Blogger.com's administrator dz, the new admin 'Reprehensor' introduced a moderation queue where all comments submitted by users must be pre-approved.

The outrage to this has sparked heated comments against this move by the large majority of the community:

http://www.911blogger.com/node/9750

http://www.911blogger.com/node/9789

However, admin Reprehensor won't budge. His reasons for instating moderation are unfounded and he did not consult with the user base to find alternatives first.

The excuse is to 'improve the quality of the comments and limit ad hominem attacks'. This problem was addressed by the recently comment rating system. And in any case, most members can deal with it.

Another excuse was bandwidth costs. However, at no point did Rephensor ask to raise more cash or how much was needed.

Already 3 of my comments were censored and now my account has been blocked. I've been an active member of 911Blogger.com for a year now. I've also submitted quite a few news stories, some of which featured on prisonplanet.com. That I would be banned for voicing my protest shows the direction 911Blogger.com is taking. Ironic for a site that is against MSM censorship on 9/11 truth isn't it?

As Alex Jones would say : Something smells rotten in Denmark.

Many members are talking about boycotting the site. But I won't let my favorite 9/11 truth site sink into oblivion without putting up a fight, so if anybody feels the same, please show your support here and contact anybody you know at 911Blogger to do the same.

Thanks!
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TonyGosling · Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject:

Sounds like you're actually helping to divide and rule here

Could be they've been under attack - dark forces may have been clogging the comments with diseased drivel??

Don't have a go until you know all the facts

If you've been jumping to conclusions I'm not suprised you've been blocked.

John White · Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:31 pm Post subject:

I can tell you now:

Being a moderator sucks

But this site would have gone under some time ago if there wasn't at least somebody prepared to do it

And yes, I'm a veteran of plenty of unmoderated forums that are now, alas, no more. I often miss the unadulterated knockabout of verbally laying into each other

However:

As far as 9/11blogger goes:

Not spent much time there myself, certainly never posted: but its clear that different factions have used the open structure to play politics and shout each other down/do each other over

The result, as they say, is not rocket science:

Either the admin puts moderation in or they abandon the site to those who shout loudest and play dirtiest: and to do that is simply a policy of embracing faliure

Human Nature!

Its a lesson, aint it?

Emmanuel Goldstein · New Poster Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 8

TonyGosling · Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:38 pm Post subject:

Can I have two opposing opinions at the same time?
You're right, it's a fine line we tread between weeding out the dross and censorship.

Does sound like a potentially very worrying development.

rodin · Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject:

EG - nice handle - surprised no-one had bagged it before now. Then again we got d-notice.com and falseflag.co.uk not so long ago...

About 911Blogger

If they are suddenly being gatekept what the F were they discussing in the immediate recently?

I am interested in this 'self moderation' tip. Sounds like a precursor to 'self government'.

Emmanuel Goldstein · New Poster Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 8

TonyGosling · Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:18 am Post subject:

Finding myself agreeing now that 911 blogger HAS taken a step back. hey've not delegated enough mods to scan through topics so they haven't developed trust within the group and are doing no outreach to recruit good new mods. If existing moderators aren't able to ditch abusive, racist or otherwise timewasting and malicious comments then what are they doing there?
Essentially, if you allow open posting, as we do here, we are a democratic site, if we cave in to what is essentially shill spam then the whole thing stops being user driven which is the beauty of this place. I am reminded of an old term from the English Civil war at the bottom of pamphlets printed on illegal liberated presses: 'printed in a corner of freedom close by the House of Commons' nd such lik. So I suppose this site really is stioll 'corner of freedom' and long may it stay that way!

Emmanuel Goldstein · New Poster Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 8

I posted the following blog entry on 911Blogger.com under a new account:

mason-free party · Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject:

this 911 forum is uncensored and operates very well...a credit to the 911 movement
http://forum.911movement.org/

Carlos · Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject:

i am aregular there too - don't post that much but read anything interesting.

I can see the frustration created by moderating comments, and I don't think it is ideal.

However, lately there has been an increasing amount of bitching. Last week i posted up the latest video debunking the BBC's conspiracy files. This caused all sorts of uproar from certain militant truthers, cos Shayler was involved - now I understand the worry about no plane theories, I personaly cannot see any valid evidence for them.... but that does not negate the quality and importance of the video - no one excpet an experienced researcher would associate the video with NPT's!

Even if you tried to qualify your comments as I have done above, you would find you comment having a score of -6 or something.. it was gettting ridiculous. too much bitching and in fighting, and not enough progressive thought in my humble opinion.

Now if there wasn't so much of that kinda stuff, I'm sure they wouldn't have done it. It only creates a massive headache for them.

As for your comment above, I'm not surprised it hasn't gone up - your basically saying .."if you can't be bothered to do it, I will..." - but if somehting is your baby then your not likely to give it to a stranger.. no matter how troublesome it is.

Have patience see how it goes, I too have not had 1 of my comments go up, but hey it can't have been that important Wink

Emmanuel Goldstein · New Poster Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 8

This is the latest solution offered up by the 911Blogger team:

Emmanuel Goldstein · New Poster Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 8

Ahahaha

! After posting this, they've now banned my IP?!

This is what their page now says when I load up the front page:

kc · Moderate Poster Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 359

Thermate911 · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject: Has it not always been so?

In some ways, I am sorry that this is the first thread I've posted to but I have spent 25 years studying and following the methods of those who wish deadly secrets to remain so. It is truly horrifying the depths certain types of individuals will descend to in order to protect those who pay them...

I sometimes wonder also whether some people of genuinely good heart actually realize the depth of cesspit they are taking on with the 9/11 Hoax. A reading of someone like Carre's Reluctant Gardener can give a glimpse into 'how it really works', but only a glimpse.

The first warning bell in this present case is Repre(hen)sor's pushing of the democratic underground site. There are SO many sites like this that appear to offer knowledge but in reality do the opposite. Read some recent stuff like Libby's pardon and you would never for a moment realize that in reality, Cheney is hanging by his fingernails, one step (Jan2009) from being jailed for Treason under the Espionage Act (all you'll get from the talking heads sites is the IIPAct!).

The key comment in that thread you offered is most certainly:-

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

Key word: 'significance' - so long as you stay below a 'hit' threshold, you won't be pressured but above that it boils down to watching out where the money comes from - the bigger the site the more likely funds are traceable back to one of three basic sources: Rothschild, Rockefeller or Federal Reserve/BofEngland board feeding through NSA, CIA (or UK equiv MI5-6 & SIS) and Pentagon.

These are the hard facts: in essence we are all pawns to power psychopaths at institutes like CFR, Fed Res, etc. The stakes could not be higher. They will spend what it takes to keep 9/11 and all that followed out of mainstream consciousness. Personally I don't think the U$ is all that far from a 'Nuremberg' moment...

Until these central players (their names are all listed at WeAreChange.org) are apprehended by a knowledgeable and outraged populace, nothing is going to change. We will just plunge further and further into a global fascist nightmare existence of their choosing.

Don't believe me? - here's a known brave man who didn't quite become a CFR member, telling it like it really is from his conversations with tricky Nicky:-

www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCmsT_I6SaE - the entire interview gives more depth.

Real deal on the Libby nonsense here:-

http://citizenspook.blogspot.com/2005_07_24_citizenspook_archive.html

Bottom line sadly has to be trust no site that filters its comment boards. And yes, YouTube does, retroactively. Only way to find out though is to file compare against private archives after a couple of months.

Talking of which, I challenge anyone to find a trace-back of my recent posters on nyc.indymedia.org

Here's the magic letters if you're interested in how heavily 9/11 info is blacked out in New York generally, thanks to tyrants like Giuliani and Bloomberg.

http://nyc.indymedia.org/en/2007/07/88347.html
http://nyc.indymedia.org/en/2007/06/87782.html

These central bankers can buy their very own history. Hence that seemingly silly 'end of history' phrase from a prominent NeoCon a while back. The Stakes Could Not Be Higher.

Such interesting times. I do hope we can coalesce rapidly now in full knowledge of what needs doing, before the doing is rendered impossible by further forced events.

Finally (drone drone!) it was most heartening to see that brave woman attempt the arrest of Bliar the other day - she has exactly the right idea but who will take such a step for all the hidden rulers? We cannot leave it to Ron Paul or Brian Haw...

Emmanuel Goldstein · New Poster Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 8

Apparently, according to 911Blogger admin 'Repre(hen)sor' irrelevant comments such as the one submitted by user 'Jon Gold' are now fair game:

Emmanuel Goldstein · New Poster Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 8

Thermate911 · Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject:

Like yer nym, BTW! There was a time I masqueraded as Osama bin Goldstein but nobody picked up on it ;-)

"The question remains: which aspect of 9/11 Truth has 'Repre(en)sor' been commissioned to censor? And by whom?"

FBI, NSA+gooogle, CIA, MI5, SIS? Does it matter? It's all traceable back to the money bagses if you dig deep enough. These people will stop at nothing (eg Paul Wellstone, Dan Wallace, look what they're doing to Chris Bollyn) to stay on course to world domination.

It is so very blatant now it is becoming obvious that their 'program' is getting accelerated beyond planning. Psychopaths are at their most dangerous when cornered.

Hence the need for a global awakening and concerted action. No one person can tackle this alone but tackled it must be otherwise our children will no longer have freedom to live, love and enjoy the beauty of life - they will be chipped slaves - or outcasts...

I take Aaron Russo's recent gifts to free peoples very seriously - so should we all, IMO. The NWO is never going to stop without being stopped...

Louise · Validated Poster Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Posts: 280

It appears to me like those who want people only to belive the offical story of 9/11 and shut everybody else up from telling the truth have started a campaign of infiltrating the various 9/11 truth movements with the intent of destroying them from within.

This is how it seems to me.

And i think that's exactly how they would work, posing of course as ordinary people.

The best way to destroy any organisation or group is surely to infiltrate it and work on destroying it from within.

Thermate911 · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject:

Louise - I like your PC version of Edmund Burke's seminal quote. ;-) Wouldn't it be wonderful to see it emblazoned on the world's press front page?

This could come to pass but not just yet.

A good grip on the viability of individual, rather than group, action (eg. That very brave woman who attempted to arrest Bliar the other week) would help us all enormously.

Veering on to a religious approach, if enough people came to realise that their god is within, not as millenia of priests would lead us to believe, then they would discover the energy to withstand this present and totally pervasive tide of evil - as individuals.

And when enough individuals come together... We are at that moment when Sir Edmund would have been proud of those of us who have totally penetrated the veil of lies and mayhem that Fear attempted to strangle us with...

Louise · Validated Poster Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Posts: 280

Thermate 911 Wrote:

"Louise - I like your PC version of Edmund Burke's seminal quote. Wink

Wouldn't it be wonderful to see it emblazoned on the world's press front page?"

Yes it would, i totally agree with you on that, it is the quote that all people should live by really.

I do hope that those responsible for 9/11 are brought to justice soon, i really do.

They will wreck this world just for their own gain if they are not caught soon.

And it will be us who will have to suffer the consequences.

I do have to give them credit for their deviousness and cunning, it tricks and fools a lot of people, but it will NOT trick and fool us.

Pikey · Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject:

Louise · Validated Poster Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Posts: 280

In fact i picked up the quote from my PC when i was playing Call of Duty or Call of Duty 2.

Great games by the way.

I liked it so much that i decided to adopt it as my signiture for all the forums that i belong to (currently i belong to 2 forums).

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