POLL - Delinking David Shayler

[moeen yaseen]

DELINKAGE POLL ON SHAYLER

In light of recent unfortunate claims made by David Shayler as being the Messiah Moeen Yaseen and Kenyon Gibson move that this House instructs the Administrators to delink the homepage from any links to his name or images herewith as it is detrimental to the broader campaign.


Happy Truth Seeking

[moeen yaseen]

DELINKAGE POLL ON SHAYLER

As far as I am aware of this is the first poll conducted here. It appears that most members are NOT aware that it has been initiated. We need a better system to alert and enlist the response of the membership. Either ALL members should be alerted by email or a poll should have high visibility rather than be buried and hidden away on the website.

[Keith Mothersson]

This motion is NOT the same one as Noel's at the Leeds 911 WHICH SUGGESTED THAT WE SHOULD MAKE A GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THE WORLD AND THE MEDIA TO THE EFFECT THAT NO ONE 'REPRESENTED' THE MOVEMENT, AND SPECIFICALLY ASKING THE MEDIA NOT TO PRETEND THAT DAVID SHAYLER DID.

Noel's motion failed because it was felt inividious for us to specially single out David for disassociation, and besides it was unnecessary if we just kept repeating the position that no one spoke FOR the whole 911 truth movement (though lots of us speak in support of it).

However at present all sorts of other people have also done good work which isn't being linked to explicitly on the front page, so the issue is whether we should continue to specially single out David's work positively (also using his image) now that this is bound to incur for the website/911truth movement whatever negatives people not unnaturally attach to David following his claim to be the Messiah.

So despite my severe worries about internet voting - so liable to spook manipulation - I have voted on this resolution and urge all the others who come to this thread to also vote for delinkage, while simulataneously wishing David all the best for a speedy recovery.

[Sixy]

[Bongo]

I voted yes because at this time, The 9/11 truth movement cannot gain any use from David while he is sick and in order for him to embark on the road to recovery, I think he could well do with distancing himself from 9/11 issues and the stresses that 9/11 involves.

I wish David all the best and to get well soon.

[TellmeTruth]

[truthseeker john]

[TonyGosling]

Polls here are somewhat pointless because anyone at all can vote including Dave and the shills. There is a way, however, in the back end of the forum of emailing everybody and bringing this to the attention of all users.
The admins could institute this and in the laudable spirit in which Moeen has tried to get a decision out of the campaign as a whole they surely should use it.

[moeen yaseen]

DELINKAGE POLL ON SHAYLER

Now that is an excellent idea Tony which I second. We can not wait
indefinitely to conduct this POLL or indeed any POLL of the membership.
It is also one way we can test our capability as a movement to mobilise our resources and circa 2000 membership. I look forward to this POLL being conducted with speed and efficiency so that we can execute the wishes of the membership.

[TonyGosling]

There is a sluggishness in decision making.
Rather like in the Green Party.
How do you have a dynamic group that's not too heirarchical?
For example I am allegedly the Bristol group's representative on the 'committee' but haven't had a single invite to a meeting.
The alternative is that decisions are made by small self-selecting groups - such as that over the renaming/restructuring of this forum - and in that case IMHO was actually a step backwards (moving images put the serer under strain, 'p*ssing it together' is an awful title and people don't come here for the news aggregator etc. tragic when you think of all the voluntary time/stress/work put in.
Ye Godz it's frustrating.

Stop moaning Gosling!
Okay.
Here's a concrete proposal.
We set up another user group, much like the moderators group here
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/groupcp.php?g=281
and call it "The Committee". In that group are all the members of the campaign's official committee as decided at this year's AGM in Leeds.
The committee have their own section on the public part of the forum where only they can vote - other users can just voyeristically watch - any one of those accredited people can start a polls which actually mean something!
As 'Past Grand Master' Ian Crane should have honorary membership there.
Alternatively we could do something similar on the 91truthcampaign.net forum but here would be more public and better reflect the way the campaign actually works.

If Dave has done nothing else at least he will have galvanised us into action over streamlining our accountability and decision making process.

[moeen yaseen]

DELINKAGE POLL ON SHAYLER

Nice one Tony good thinking outside of the box. As you know people like us built up the web city here NOT on Drugs and Rock N Roll but rather on Truth and Justice. It is high time that the circa 2000 good people were mobilised and NOTHING either internal/external should detract the Truth Movement from it's mission. In a sense we are here to save society from the collapse and destruction rooted in the web of deceit we find everywhere. We may NOT be MESSIAHS but we have the role of awakening the people aka Messiah/Imam Mahdi. The first step is to arouse the membership and electrify them with the knowledge that NOONE can stop 2000 people BEINGTHECHANGE. We are the change but we need to have authentic leadership as nothing less will do for a Truth Movement. In the coming storm we need to be able to move fast as TRUTH COMMANDOS operating autonomously if necessary. We are going to win and nothing will stop the truth.

So I support your idea of activating some public forum here for conducting POLLS and Ian Crane can be the honorary Chairman as he is a good man. Onwards and Upwards.

[TellmeTruth]

[TellmeTruth]

[TonyGosling]

I want a serious discussion here so will delete tivial posts

[TellmeTruth]