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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:37 am    Post subject: Real News on the war in Iraq Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi DD, that was good,is this a nation wide channel in the US?

It is certainly unusual for the media to broadcast the reason so many are killed day by day in Iraq.

I wonder if the BBC will eventually start to question what's going on,intead of just parrotting from the ministry of defence and "official"
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.therealnews.com/web/index.php

Very interesting!

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject: Every success... Reply with quote

This new news channel needs to be supported by all of us who wish for an end to the political nonsense and lies which Bush, Blair and their cronies and the mainstream media have thrust upon us.

The news links from http://www.therealnews.com can be embedded directly into your websites from their own servers, see our page at:

http://www.cornwall911truth.info/pages/illegalwar.aspx

Click on "share" just under the video you wish to embed, and the HTML you can use will then be displayed.

It is imperative that we spread the knowledge of the new site. They are only funded by monies from people like us, and I personally wish them every success.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found them on Youtube, just use the video link and add them there to if you have an account that is Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 points, I just get audio, and the second point is they're pushing the agw
agenda that can be managed by human intervention.

They may as well have Al Gore presenting it, I don't trust this lot with their partial truth.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A new news service which threatens to tell the truth, without fear or favour?

I'm interested!

And what is the first story to be found on its site which makes mention of Israel?

One about how the Israeli Defence Force moved into Hebron to evict a group of illegal Israeli settlers.

Seriously, they're going to have to try harder than this...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Real News

Comments of (some) supporters:

Joanne St Lewis: some excellent points, sounds very promising but mentions a Independent World Television ! Could this be Independant World Television that goes along nicely with the One World Religion, and the One World Government?

Sashi Kumar: similar to above and also mentions Independent World Television.

Pamela de Maigret: Florida voting fraud electronic voting machines, and Independent World Television.

Tom Fenton: on the status of American journalism,is the most misleading mentions IWT and says the BBC is to be admired for it’s independence from government, and relates the sexing up of the Iraq dossier controversy as proof!

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I’m bored with this now, as what they all saying really is “Why have national networks, when we should have a World Television Network to BS the world.”

The people will not have this forced upon them , they will demand it.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL! I only said it was very interesting!

(Damn! Should have stuck at "interesting", less controversial Laughing )

I can't see a news chanel that we abandoned personal critical discernment for would be any help at all:

But anything getting out from under the wing of the MSM that we may at least hope to have a greater ability to influence:

Has to have a certain promise

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Every success... Reply with quote

spiv wrote:

It is imperative that we spread the knowledge of the new site.


No it's not. Let's pause for some thinking shall we.

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They are only funded by monies from people like us


Ahm, and how exactly do we know that?
How do we know what we think we know?

All this lush presentation, the facilities, all these reporters around the world...are financed by whom exactly?

So you want me to believe these guys opened up their shop with the prospect of, maybe, being financed by enough $10 bills from around the globe so that, maybe, they will stay in business.

And in the meantime their reporters and staff will be eating what? Maybe's?

And how do they know they'll still be in business for the 2008 US elections?

Do you guys really buy this?!

Damn I don't remember opening my purse to finance any news service.

I concur with a previous post: they'll have to try harder than this.

I'm afraid the problem of news services in capitalist 'democracies' is harder than this.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:43 am    Post subject: Agree to disagree... Reply with quote

Well acrobat and one or two others on this thread, I'm afraid that we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm not sure what you are wanting here, a new 'News' network to come straight out with "911 was an inside job"?? Cos, in my opinion anyway, that just ain't going to happen. But, well, oneday in the future...

Several of the articles on the Real News website are looking at the events of the World with a critical eye, indeed, far more critical than most of the biaised droning blurb spouted by the maintream media. For that reason alone I think we should be supportive of what they say they are trying to achieve. I don't agree with every report on this site, but then I believe that no-one can agree with everything on any site.

I like a couple of Gore Vidal's interviews. I particulary like the little clip we have embedded on our Cornish website, and I also like the clip regarding the way Bush and his cronies have casually dismissed the statistics regarding the number of civilian Iraqis who have been killed as a result of the illegal occupations of both Britain and America.

And if ever their stated aims turn out to be lies and obfuscation, then it is everyones' simple choice to withdraw that support. Until then, they deserve a chance.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, that 'they deserve a chance' is different to 'it is imperative to spread news about this channel'.

My central premise is that what they promise (independent news supported by chunks of users' $10) is misinformation by definition.

It is obvious their financing is not what they claim it is. They're lying from the start.

Hence, their credibility is already harmed.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:03 pm    Post subject: Think about it.. Reply with quote

Acrobat, you are well off course here, in my opinion. I would warrant most independent businesses would far rather prefer the chance to obtain an income of worldwide users of $10 each from those willing to subscribe. There are millions of folks around the world, so their market is vast. Just think about it, think really carefully.

But also think about the cost of setting up a competitor business similar to the myriad of trash orchestrated news, much of it done by Murdoch's empire, which is currently on offer.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I have to continue to agree to disagree with you. And my comment "Let's give them a chance" wasn't meant to be read as deprecating my earlier comment "'it is imperative to spread news about this channel". It was meant to bolster it.

And as an aside, have you seen the latest feature on their site today, entitled "Iran: Is it weapons or oil?"
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By all means feel free to give these guys a go. I have explained why I think their credibility is already compromised.

You fail to recognize that the infrastructure they already seem to have (staff, premises, website) requires significant amounts of up-front capital. Where did this come from? Loans against potential future subscriptions?

Finally, I'm not disappointed when folks disagree with me. Disagreement is a constructive process.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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as an aside, have you seen the latest feature on their site today, entitled "Iran: Is it weapons or oil?"


Now if they said "Iran: is it control of resources to further another agenda"

I'd be there.

Half truths come nowwhere, in the whole scheme of things.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a site which has good analysis and news reports from Iraq

http://www.iraq-war.ru/
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and probably this one
http://www.presstv.ir/
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US forces kill 6 Iraqi protesters
Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:54:53
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=20201&sectionid=351020201
Source: Agencies

US troops have opened fire at Iraqi civilians protesting against lack of security in northern Baquba, killing six and injuring five others.

Speaking to the local news agency, residents of the northern Baquba's al-Khalis district said Tuesday that they were criticizing the "deteriorating security conditions and services" in the area.

The US military, which under international conventions is responsible to establish security in the country as an occupier force, did not comment on the incident.

In another incident, also on Tuesday, gunmen stormed into a house and killed nine members of one family in the village of Muwelha near Latifiya, 40 km (25 miles) south of Baghdad, an Interior Ministry official said.

A police captain in Latifiya, who requested anonymity, said the dead include three women and a 2-year-old girl while two other women were also wounded.

The motive for the attack was not yet clear.


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