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Easy Rider
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 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:38 pm Post subject: CNN 911 Video Fraud Exposed |
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Interestingly this video says that John White is a shill.
I am puzzled by they would say that about a moderator on this forum.
Can anybody enlighten me?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikUYwm-KD20 |
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chek
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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So does it blank your memory whenever you change your screen name?
You don't recall having Elementary Perspective explained to you around the time of Fred's bullsh*t Video debut?
Doesn't seem very probable to me.
Stirring seems a far more likely explanation.
It must be very boring over at Siegheil's "research" facility.
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Fred ("bsregistration") always seemed to me to be the most sunny of temperament among the tv fakery videologists, so I am surprised at the shrill and contemptuous tone of this piece.
The proposition that the Hezarkani film is fake may be quite correct - all the films may be fake - but that makes no difference to the central issue, which is that the Towers were blown up using explosives - not frazzled by space beams.
Incidentally, the fact that all the Flock of Seigels have parted company with the Web Fairy, because they have gotten fed up with her superannuated cold war style geopolitical views, seems to have been swept under the table.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Rowan Berkeley wrote: | | Fred ("bsregistration") always seemed to me to be the most sunny of temperament among the tv fakery videologists, so I am surprised at the shrill and contemptuous tone of this piece. |
"Sunny" would not be the first word that springs to mind from recollection of 'Fred's' intro on this forum, and I sincerely doubt that "sunny" gets one banned by the ever-patient Ian.
| Rowan Berkeley wrote: | | The proposition that the Hezarkani film is fake may be quite correct |
Maybe so, but not on the evidence that Fred presented
| Rowan Berkeley wrote: | | Incidentally, the fact that all the Flock of Seigels have parted company with the Web Fairy, because they have gotten fed up with her superannuated cold war style geopolitical views, seems to have been swept under the table. |
And the allegations of 'sexism'? Needs must, I suppose.
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Rowan Berkeley
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I got thrown off 911Researchers a while before that bust-up, because I kept trying to point out that WebFairy's sources are all cold war spook conspirologists - notably "Mr Free Energy" himself, Tom Bearden:
http://www.cheniere.org/
excellently debunked here:
http://www.phact.org/e/z/BeardenReview.htm
The way the WebFairy saw it, Steven Jones was an agent of the ... well, whoever ... tasked with preventing the benefits of endless free 'zero point energy' ever reaching the masses.
After the bust-up, the only one who sent me a personal message saying, "maybe you were right" was coffinman.
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| Rowan Berkeley wrote: | I got thrown off 911Researchers a while before that bust-up, because I kept trying to point out that WebFairy's sources are all cold war spook conspirologists - notably "Mr Free Energy" himself, Tom Bearden:
http://www.cheniere.org/
excellently debunked here:
http://www.phact.org/e/z/BeardenReview.htm
The way the WebFairy saw it, Steven Jones was an agent of the ... well, whoever ... tasked with preventing the benefits of endless free 'zero point energy' ever reaching the masses.
After the bust-up, the only one who sent me a personal message saying, "maybe you were right" was coffinman. |
I've always been fascinated by the generally accepted meme that through the mechanism of Jones' perfectly timed press conference, supposed 'free energy' was denied to the masses.
Are P&F even now powering their Universities and neighbourhoods with free cold fusion generators, but are today so unfashionable nobody's interested?
Sounds highly unlikely to me, but is a generally accepted 'truth' in certain circles.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:53 am Post subject: Re: CNN 911 Video Fraud Exposed |
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| Easy Rider wrote: | Interestingly this video says that John White is a shill.
I am puzzled by they would say that about a moderator on this forum.
Can anybody enlighten me?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikUYwm-KD20 |
Because Fred Loves me, and this is the way he shows affection?
It certainly amuses me to have such an effect on Fred's inner world
Mind you, shouldnt it be john white/chek/marky 54/everyone on the forum who doesnt bow before fred's magnificence/is the SAME shill?: becuase that was the state of fred's paranoid delusion before he imploded on the way out of here
Thanks for the giggle reminding me about that Easy Rider, remember, Fred loves you too!
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Rowan Berkeley
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thanks. I certainly see your trigonometrical argument perfectly clearly.
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The most amusing part of the video in the OP, outside of its silliness? That it's apparently a response to a Breast Cancer Awareness Month video. o_O?
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I think that the following post from this thread demonstrated more than any other why wandering around with a camcorder claiming not to be able to recreate the CNN shot really was a meaningless charade....
| nomore wrote: | Capturing a subject the same size with different focal length lenses yields very different results. When using a wider lens, more of the background is depicted. In contrast, with a telephoto focal length, the background view is narrower and will appear closer to the subject (compressed).
The CNN video would have been shot using a telephoto lens.
Therefore, all of the lines on maps are pointless unless you know what focal lenth was used, and what size the imager (CCD) on the camera was. |
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| TmcMistress wrote: | | The most amusing part of the video in the OP, outside of its silliness? That it's apparently a response to a Breast Cancer Awareness Month video. o_O? |
Psch. Those breast cancer awareness people are clearly shills and gatekeepers seeking to draw attention away from tv fakery by going on about boobs.
I found all the stuff about 'bringing people to justice' rather disturbing. The notion that someone who challenged your argument on an internet forum needs to be the recipient of some vaguely threatening 'retribution' betrays a slightly worrying psychological state.
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Fred has written a reasonable-sounding mini-position-paper, in response to someone who left a comment under one of his videos in the last few days - it's here:
http://www.911researchers.com/node/647
To me the weakest part is the statement : "Many helicopters participated in the attacks." The task is to explain the gashes in the external walls of the Towers, of course - merely making fun of them as too perfect (as in Judy's Road Runner silhouettes) doesn't cut it.
I am interested that Fred also says quite explicitly : "Bush's backers and the National Security Council worked out a deal with the Israeli government and private military contractors to carry out a large military deception operation to blow up the World Trade Center and blame the attack on Arabs, this linking US Foreign Policy and Israeli Foreign Policy." This surprises me because I expect Rick to be ruthlessly hostile to attempts to 'blame the Jews' in this way!
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