Status Of David Ray Griffin's New Book?

[Me]

Has anyone heard anything about this? I’ve been web-searching for information but I can find nothing. Unfortunately I don’t know the actual title of the book or when it’s supposed to be released. I caught the tail end of him on Air America a few weeks ago and I’m pretty sure that he announced two new upcoming books. One was a revised edition of ‘Debunking 9/11 Debunking’ and another completely new one had to do with contradictions in the press related to 9/11.

[Me]

Speaking of DRG. This is supposed to be downloadable in MP3 format. I apologize in advance if it's bunk. I haven't had a chance to try it out yet myself (slow dial-up).

http://www.radio4all.net/proginfo.php?id=24398&file_id=42306

[Easy Rider]

David Ray (God) Griffin is working for the perps

If you cannot see this you are incredibly naive and gullable.

This man had received funding from the Rockefellers, had a member of the CFR write the foreword to the new pearl harbour and he believes in a one world government. He is very creepy

[kbo234]

[utopiated]

I tried to order his new book via Amazon UK for my brother who bought me the one authored by Popular Mechanics last year [sibling belief system incongruity you could call it] and last month, after having it on order for a few weeks they wrote and said it was not possible to get it.

[Wokeman]

Easy Rider,
Have a look at the Home Page and DRG's interview with Gloria Hunniford.
You have obviously not heard him speak in public (in London, two years ago as I did). Had you done so, and had watched the video, you would have not made those comments.

[Easy Rider]

Wokeman please wake up.

I saw David Ray Griffin at Conway Hall, it was last year.

He is working for the perps...............period

[Easy Rider]

[kbo234]

[mercury]

I can confirm that David is writing a new book - though I don't know when it is will be published.

He has also written an updated version of Debunking 9/11 Debunking, which refers to the BBC's programme The Conspiracy Theories.

[Shoestring]

[kbo234]

[Easy Rider]

[kbo234]

[ukginger]

i thought everybody here knows that 911 was a conspircy

No way did a dead guy (kidneys) orchestrate an operation against his employeers (cia ) and get NORAD to stand down . . .

[kbo234]

[Easy Rider]

Of course it was an inside job.

However the real perps (the media and their controllers) get off scott free with the theories of David Ray Griffin and yourself

[chek]

[ian neal]

I would be more interested in his hard evidence that DRG is not genuine. In my book, university professor receieving money from the Rockefellor Foundation is very common and indicates nothing. Having someone like Richard Falk write the forward for your book is a logical decision and indicates nothing in particular, especially if you are not well read on conspiracy theories in general so unaware of the negative connections membership of the CFR might hold. This is a safe presumption to make of DRG. And DRG's vision of a new world system based on peace and justice is hardly original and particularly suspicious. He is hardly calling for a new world order in the same way Bush and Brown are.

Now given the controversies surrounding Steven Jones' background and conduct, I was surprised to see Steven Jones feature so prominently in this new book that DRG jointly editted. But again this is to me is a judgement call. I would have choosen differently but is David's decision and again does not mean much on its own.

So tell me, have you got any real evidence or are you just rehashing old suspicions

[acrobat74]

[ian neal]

[acrobat74]

[kbo234]

[ian neal]

As I understand from easyrider's p.o.v (and excuse me if I'm assuming things here easyrider) it is presumed that if the truth about 9/11 starts coming out the perps will prefer to settle for a limited hangout based on the questions and theories promoted by DRG and Steven Jones and avoid evidence about TV fakery and DEWs and that this will let the true perps off the hook, avoid awkward questions about the media's complicity in the 9/11 cover-up / TV fakery and hidden energy technologies.

Working on this scenario it is further presumed (or even claimed to be proven) that DRG is being used by the perps (or even actively working for them) to achieve this end.

[acrobat74]

[kbo234]

What kind of 'perps' would employ a man like Griffin to turn what was, at the time he started, almost a non-issue into a very big deal indeed that threatens them in a way they obviously hoped would never happen.

A bit of common sense would come in handy here.

If a person made the argument you put in the way you put it, Ian, it would be easy to accept them.

However, all this poster does is attack anyone and everyone (including yourself).

Come on.....Easy Rider's contributions are, in effect, attacks on our whole project. What the 'perps' want is that sites like ours are full of confusion and this kind of disruptive argument in order to put off casual visitors to the site. This is all of a piece with the bizzare malfunctioning of this site (with which we are all familiar).

[ian neal]

[Easy Rider]

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[ian neal]

I was trying to explain the thinking of the 'researchers community' and why they consider voices such as DRG and Willy R suspicious.

Personally if it is the intention of the PTB to use people like DRG to push a limited hangout I believe it will fail.

My approach has always been present the most compelling and least contested evidence to call for new inquiry, fully aware that such an inquiry will not happen short of massive public support and awareness of the evidence.

At such a time as the 9/11 truth goes mainstream and is openly discussed by the media and politicians, they will no doubt try to steer things towards a limited hangout. They always do. It is then essential that as a movement we do not allow them to get away with not answering the difficult questions and yes this includes those questions arising from the the NPT/TvF/DEW research.

That said just because I understand the researchers concerns does not mean I accept that Willy and DRG are agents or believe that the PTB are capable of influencing things enough to get away with a limited hangout this time.

As I have said many times, it is right to question things and have a degree of healthy curiosity about how the PTB are infiltrating and influencing the movement. It is inevitable they would try to do so. But nothing I have seen against DRG and WR amounts to particularly compelling evidence let alone proof. And until and unless someone is proven to be guilty my presumption is to give everyone the benefit of the doubt

[Eckyboy]

The thing that appeals to me about the books of DRG is that he does not endorse any one theory but simply states and in turn asks us to look at the evidence and make our own minds up. Why anyone would accuse him of being a puppet for the true culprits is beyond me. His books are very easy to follow and at no point does he preach or descend into so called outlandish theories.