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my left bollock
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| my left bollock wrote: | | Creepy, very creepy indeed |
Yes, but that's just your general demeanour and you probably can't help it.
Anyhoo, I think global government would be great.
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I prefer the idea of anarchy myself, but I think DRG makes an excellent point about America regarding itself as the world government anyway and - lets face it - different competing countries based on notions of 'patriotism' (frequently embodied in the bizarre habit of waving a piece of patterned cloth about and singing nonsense songs about some deity saving some old lady or something) are a primitve notion best confined to the dustbin of territorial primate ancestry. I think DRG makes an eloquent case. I think he's clearly very intelligent and well educated and more like a well liked affable uncle than "creepy". Of course, one may make the base asumption that in any way mentioning global government automatically implies you're a cheerleader for a NWO global fascist takeover, but that would surely be the product of a tragically underdeveloped brain only capable of engaging in crude black and white cognitions?
I have a tentative hypothesis that if DRG suddenly decided certain planes didn't hit certain buildings on a particular day, he'd suddenly be the dogs danglies according to certain parties.
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| Dogsmilk wrote: | I prefer the idea of anarchy myself, but I think DRG makes an excellent point about America regarding itself as the world government anyway and - lets face it - different competing countries based on notions of 'patriotism' (frequently embodied in the bizarre habit of waving a piece of patterned cloth about and singing nonsense songs about some deity saving some old lady or something) are a primitve notion best confined to the dustbin of territorial primate ancestry. I think DRG makes an eloquent case. I think he's clearly very intelligent and well educated and more like a well liked affable uncle than "creepy". Of course, one may make the base asumption that in any way mentioning global government automatically implies you're a cheerleader for a NWO global fascist takeover, but that would surely be the product of a tragically underdeveloped brain only capable of engaging in crude black and white cognitions?
I have a tentative hypothesis that if DRG suddenly decided certain planes didn't hit certain buildings on a particular day, he'd suddenly be the dogs danglies according to certain parties. |
I'd qualify my agreement that the ideal of anarchy is a good one, with the inevitable but being that it seem to me it requires big contributions in time and energy by a fully engaged population to pull it off (ooer missus etc.)
At one time I might have believed that was a possiblility, but I now tend towards the view that majority of people are essentially lazy gits who'd rather goggle at Big Brother (with no sense of the irony) than get down the village hall and plan an overhaul of the sewage system or resist infiltration of key administrative posts by, for example, Common Purpose.
Nobody can say that things need always be so, but then maybe they would; as a species we are absolute suckers for common if elusive qualities such as charm and demagoguery and repetetive suggestion.
Federated communities loosely organised together yet on a global scale - perhaps like Switzerland without the antiseptic writ large - may be the kind of model I have in mind, but resisting the fascist mentality will always be a full time job in any form of collective community policy making.
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| Quote: | At one time I might have believed that was a possiblility, but I now tend towards the view that majority of people are essentially lazy gits who'd rather goggle at Big Brother (with no sense of the irony) than get down the village hall and plan an overhaul of the sewage system or resist infiltration of key administrative posts by, for example, Common Purpose.
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Yeah, I think that in particular is a good point. Indeed, I'm a lazy git myself.
Also, I think there is the tendency of uber radicals to run round telling everyone what to think and do in the name of ultimate freedom. I'd hate to live in a world organised by many of the people I've met who call themselves anarchists.
Still, if you aim for the ideal I reckon you've a better chance of achieving the half decent!
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