Christianity. Just another lie?

[acrobat74]

[TonyGosling]

The Iluminati's covert mission objective is to kick all God fearing people whether Muslim, Christian or Jew, out of their respective churches and to replace them with fakes.
God fearing people also have to be covertly removed from positions of authority in all political parties.
An essential aspect of this covert op. is, like the Gestapo, they have to identify the faith of everyone in the Western world for their database.

[Frank Freedom]

[David WJ Sherlock]

[fish5133]

[TonyGosling]

Boy, 3, tells how he 'saw grandmother in Heaven' before being brought back from the dead after falling into pond
By Allan Hall - Daily Mail - 19th April 2010 - Comments (148)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267061/I-got-gate-saw-Grandma -Boy-aged-came-dead.html
A boy of three claims he saw his great grandmother in heaven while he was clinically dead after falling into a pond.
Paul Eicke came back to life more than three hours after his heart stopped beating.
It is believed he was in the pond at his grandparents' house for several minutes before his grandfather saw him and pulled him out.
His father gave him heart massage and mouth-to-mouth during the ten minutes it took a helicopter to arrive.
Paramedics then took over and Paul was taken the ten-minute journey to hospital. Doctors tried to resuscitate him for hours. They had just given up when, three hours and 18 minutes after he was brought in, Paul's heart started beating independently.
Professor Lothar Schweigerer, director of the Helios Clinic where Paul was taken, said: 'I have never experienced anything like it.
'When children have been underwater for a few minutes they mostly don't make it. This is a most extraordinary case.'
The boy said that while unconscious he saw his great grandmother Emmi, who had turned him back from a gate and urged him to go back to his parents.
Paul said: 'There was a lot of light and I was floating. I came to a gate and I saw Grandma Emmi on the other side.
'She said to me, "What are you doing here Paul? You must go back to mummy and daddy. I will wait for you here."
'I knew I was in heaven. But grandma said I had to come home. She said that I should go back very quickly.
'Heaven looked nice. But I am glad I am back with mummy and daddy now.'
Paul is now back at home in Lychen, north of Berlin in Germany, and there appears to be no sign of brain damage......
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267061/I-got-gate-saw-Grandma -Boy-aged-came-dead.html#ixzz0lY2UMMbz

[Disco_Destroyer]

My similar experience was more like an outer body experiance. I saw light (like a beacon in total darkness) I was floating and it took a while to make out (blurred Vision) what was in the light, it was me lying there, I noticed I was floating away higher and higher, at that point I thought 'What the hell you doing' and snapped back into conciousness.
I do have an open mind as I didn't look away from the my main source of light but know it didn't seem painfull, maybe a little unnerving though.

[Life]

If you really want to understand the real Christianity you need to get with I :

http://www.lifeinthemixtalk.com/?p=12595

[kookomula]

Didn't the masons build the churches? Would that only have been for the purposes of mass mind control?

I'm sorry, I've been reading through all 8 pages.

The sun god connection to Christianity is interesting to me. In a recent documentary 'The Nativity Decoded' by Dr Robert Beckford at 1:36:11

www.channel4.com/programmes/the-nativity-decoded/4od#3009987

we see an early painting depicting Mary and Jesus. On Mary's head-dress is a symbol, a cross. In an analysis (which I can no longer find) of the Astana pyramid, the author of the website flattened the top section of the pyramid (pyramidion) to show that the shape it produces is the same as the cross.

Interestingly (for someone interested in triangles), at a recent temporary exhibition at the British Museum 'Warriors of the Plains'

www.britishmuseum.org/the_museum/news_and_press_releases/press_release s/2009/forthcoming_exhibitions_2010.aspx

I saw that several tribes depict the thunder bird or thunderbeings often in beadwork, as two or four triangles, apex to apex (examples are surprisingly difficult to find on the web) Inadequate example -

http://indianvillagemall.com/dreamcatchers/breastplates.html

[Life]

Hello by the way

The original masonic Guilds had absolutely no relevance to todays Freemasonry. The Masonic Guilds pre-Henry VIII were the holders of the geometry which enabled them to build such big Cathedrals and Churches.

They remained a closed door only to ensure the knowledge remained with them, they were not in any way magical save the fact they knew how to build, it had to be so or the Church would have no need to use their craft...they would lose all contracts.

Freemasonry as we know it today is the end product of the re-branding after the dissolution of the Monasteries and Guilds which became the Aristocratic club including the gentry.

So much is miss-understood as to the real moves against this nation played out in history, history of course is understood based on ones own spiritual connection, which brings to mind the old ditty :

''by my own self I am nothing'', or to that effect....

[TonyGosling]

entertaining little discussion here
The New Atheists are Not Intellectually Bright

Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkum3MrgYyw[/youtube]

[Life]

Some good points made on this thread but I think what everyone misses is the fact that all religion is man's attempt at solidifying a morality in a way that can be understood by each race which of course determines the religious doctrines.

Having said that, there is a bridge between the mundane and the heavens which is hidden in many religious doctrines, which if adhered to not out of any kind of forced compliance, but if the will comes from the heart then I see absolutely no problem with any of the religious beliefs, for they symbolise a journey which very few are aware of, and the reason such scorn is placed on religious doctrine.

There really are what in the old days were called the profane, and those who mock such doctrines, clearly have no connection to anything outside their own ego, and as such are trapped within the five sense reality.

The symbolic story of Jesus is a very old mystery school doctrine, and symbolises the death of the mortal man to be reborn as a man in full connection with the frequency we call the heavens, a spiritual symbolic death.

A little less reason and a lot more spirituality brings this understanding.

It is the heavens who decide who gains entrance while in body, the mind has no power in this regard, if the doctrines bring forth the idea of contradiction, then one's sword is firmly fast in the stone, you are nowhere.

You may throw stones now.....

[fish5133]

[Thermate911]

I have just finished a thorough re-examination of the Christian's Bible and have finally decided categorically that the Vedas, in particular the Mahabharata, holds a far clearer and less biased account of earliest recorded times.

I have sadly come to the conclusion that the Bible is a very clever work of propaganda for the most part - the largest warning sign of this state of affairs is the exclusion of one of the original disciples' epistles - Thomas.

You have been utterly conned for 2000 years - you are still being conned and psychologically damaged and enslaved by a fairy tale.

You may just as well believe the present OTT outpourings of Regev & Emmanuel for all the good it will do you.

Time to ban me here, I think, as until you come out of your cozy, fixed preconceptions based on falsehoods, you're not in any genuine position to make accurate decisions on what is right, what is wrong and what is to be done about it.

Go right back to Enki and Enlil and start again, please.

Oh, finally, same goes for Islam - another nonsense fairy tale, only Allah doesn't appear quite as psychotic as Yahweh.

In the name of God - free Gaza!

See what I mean?

There are no gods - just early peoples experiencing the appalling acts of beings just a little more advanced than themselves, writing it all down then letting 'the priesthood' mould it into a mind-distorting power structure for the next few millenia.

And here we are, all fighting over TI.ANNA, nicked by 'King' 'David' in the first place!

What a mess - no wonder we can never break the cycle...

[TonyGosling]

Can you explain this a bit?
Like citing a particular issue or two?

[Thermate911]

[TonyGosling]

You have been suspended before of course.
Now you seem to be playing mind games.
And have taken on a 'victim' persona.
Do you really want me to ban you?

[Life]

The following was a magical text, but one I have decoded to a degree, it is rather revealing if one is aware of older traditions :

Magic And Its Journey Into Christianity

http://www.lifeinthemixtalk.com/?p=14253

[Life]

Thermate911

Speaking of the Sumer tablets.... try studying men who have spent their whole lives working with Cuneiform, they state quite clearly the fact that for Sitchin to have come up with such a fantasy from the tablets is ridicules.

They are a lot of shopping lists and letters by many accounts


More to the point, the fact Saddam was about to place the tablets on show for the world to decipher in my eyes was the weapon of mass destruction, not against religion but for the gnostic knowledge which is made to fit almost entirely on the translations of Sitchin, thus suggesting Sitchin made the story to fix their gnostic Babylon as sound.

But if like the Masons one wishes to believe in Anu as your lord and master, then go ahead.

The Gnostic s are all about absolute control and as you mention Thomas, you may wish to study his Gospel, its all in there....

[Thermate911]

Funny you should mention Sitchin - without mentioning Heiser ;-)

Study Heiser and one can come to an understanding of what Sitchin attempted. And so the misdirection goes on, generation after generation until we arrive at toads like Regev and Emanuel. Does anyone still think these wretches are a modern phenomenon?

Anyway, when so very few of us have either the time or ability to decipher all these Sumerian tablets, we can but attempt to decipher the interplay between the so-called experts. Therein often lies an even more revealing tale, IMO ;-)

As for Thomas, yes, I have studied enough different translations to understand just why it was excluded by Christianity's founding hierarchy.

We are all so distortedly programmed by millennia of agitprop, one might almost imagine we have been crippled deliberately...

Couple that with the latest alleged pronouncement from the Bilderbuggas that 'people with income are an impediment to our plans' and a thread not only becomes apparent but should hit most people right between the eyes. They cannot proceed until the majority have once again sunk into ignorance and rendered terminally fearful by one shibboleth/priesthood or another.

No, IMO, we are all sovereign (in all its meanings) beings, and it is up to each individual to think and act for themselves to find out where the source our spiritual connection arises and how to become one with the extraordinary energy it can provide...

This is what all religions to date
have set out to annihilate.

[Life]

Thanks for the heads up on Heiser, Thermate, though a little less anger from you would perhaps show you have indeed learned something from your studies, as it stands you are far too angry to have found the spirit of the heavens.

Here is Mike Heiser :

http://www.lifeinthemixtalk.com/?p=14305

[Thermate911]

Hi Life - that's a 'powerful' Sumerian symbol you have for an avatar ;-)

I am sorry to note, though, that my posts come over to you as anger when my intention is clarity.

Whilst we remain beholden to those manipulators who are dead set on keeping us all at the knee-jerk emotional/belief level, none of the world's problems are going to be resolved - do you really want to remain in crisis management mode unto the 7th generation? Me, my kids and their kids don't - that I know for sure.

I'd be interested to hear of your conclusions after a deep research into Sitchin and Heiser's lives and antecedents - an interesting pattern emerges, IMO.

So, no anger here Life; just patiently awaiting mankind's awakening from
a ~3000 year long psycho-scam, a scam that has crippled rational action and keeps us on the wheel of misery, generation after generation.

Yet we have identified the evil in our midst very clearly now - what do you plan to do about it - without getting angry, that is? ;-)

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Good to see this in a side panel to that excellent link you provided:-

[Life]

Hi Thermate

Abydos gives insight to the none Sumerian origins of the Ankh.

Not really one for planning I tend to just do and everything gets done

[Andrew.]

[TonyGosling]

Fake Christians lure in students
Blimey! These fake Christians are coaxing in student suckers in Wales.
I suppose this is why traditional Christianity was removed from schools in the 1970s and 1980s so that kids would grow up with no idea of God or Christactually is.
Quite frightening that this can pass off as genuinely Christian without a critical voice being raised.

Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3Ak7y6B_Iw
Dave Vaughan prophesies. God's looking for people to take up the challenge!

http://www.janetaylor.co.uk/dialect/Dialect%2020100801.mp3

[fish5133]

This is the same Dave Vaughan who is the mad monk on Big Brother.

[Life]

[Thermate911]

Talking of obsessions, is this rendition any less valid than the 4 out of ~204 gospels that, over quite a few dead bodies, made it into orthodox christian bible?

[fish5133]

Life wrote

[Andrew.]

Thermate911 wrote: